> Attached is a slightly different sampler, actually not a sampler
> itself, but a tutorial on how to build your own sampler.
>
>> What i want to do:
>> I want to make a patch, a sample player. When i press a button i want
>> to loop the actual sample position according to the key i have
>> press
Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
>>
>> - [declare -lib somelib] makes the objects of the external 'somelib'
>> availabe to ALL patches, not only to the [declare]'s parent patch.
>
> Currently it's impossible to "unload" a binary object (builtin or
> external) from Pd once it is loaded. Loading the
Roman Haefeli wrote:
>> Ciao
>
> hm, it's not that i wanted to use [declare]'s inside abstractions and it
> turned out, that it is not necessary at all (at least for what i want).
> but every patch needs a [declare -path], whereas only one (the first
> loaded) patch needs a [declare -lib]. i find
Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> Yeah, they are essentially the same thing. The advantages of using
> [declare] would be that the names are shorter and perhaps more
> readable in the context of that patch. Plus the help files would
> work :-/. I
Chris McCormick wrote:
> Yeah, I agree completely on all counts. Sometimes really great software
> comes out of forks. DesireData looks really interesting, and I know that
> nova isn't a fork, but it looks interesting too. Can't wait until some
> of these cool bits of software reach maturity (same
i got the same now with the version 1.0B6 from april.
the version i got build but not work was 1.04B from december.
mn
Am 23.05.2007 um 04:54 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
> My guess is that I missed something in the port. There are a ton
> of warnings, maybe one of them holds the key to
Kevin McCoy wrote:
> The gui needs work - do you mean we need more/better looking gui
> objects? When I was working on OS X, I couldn't really use very many
> gui objects at once because of Apple's crappy closed implementation of
> tcl/tk; the lag was terrible. Pd devs can't really do anything
Hallo,
ugur guney hat gesagt: // ugur guney wrote:
> # I started to write an answer to a question on list about using keyboard
> input in a patch. Then I realized that a patch which I written in Windows
> does not work well under Linux, to which I have switched weeks ago.
> # When I press and hold
Can anybody help me point out who uses PD to teach electronic music? ..
(Algoritmic) Composistion
Synthesis
DSP-theory
real-time performance
What are the pros and cons for using it to teach DSP-theory?
Best,
Eirik Blekesaune
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Hallo!
> features that pd neither uses nor needs to use. It would be dead-easy to
> re-implement the current GUI in C or C++ using a cross-platform low-level
> graphics library, which would not only give us enormous visualisation
> capability, but I think is necessary to support any more advanc
I guess you mean in the academic world? As was recently mentioned in
another thread, Tom Erbe (SoundHack author) uses PD to teach synthesis
at CalArts, I think that's a pretty good endorsement!
d.
Eirik Arthur Blekesaune wrote:
> Can anybody help me point out who uses PD to teach electronic mus
Hallo,
Zeitler Andreas hat gesagt: // Zeitler Andreas wrote:
> But it takes 1 time until the playhead reaches again the in point
> until the sample really starts looping. Maybe i should start building
> from scratch.
Indeed I would recommend to try building a sampler from scratch at
least as
Hallo,
Damian Stewart hat gesagt: // Damian Stewart wrote:
> I understand this is a problem with tcl/tk.
It is not, and Desire Data proves it: DD also uses Tk, but optimized
the communication between server and GUI client, which AFAIK made
everything run more smoothly. Just switching to a differ
Hallo,
Eirik Arthur Blekesaune hat gesagt: // Eirik Arthur Blekesaune wrote:
> Can anybody help me point out who uses PD to teach electronic music? ..
> (Algoritmic) Composistion
> Synthesis
> DSP-theory
> real-time performance
>
> What are the pros and cons for using it to teach DSP-theory?
I c
I use PD with our MA/MSc students in Interactive Media and (some) in
Music Technology here at the University of Limerick.
http://www.csis.ul.ie/imedia/
http://www.ccmcm.ie/
http://www.idc.ul.ie/
- Mikael Fernström
On 29 May 2007, at 09:39, Eirik Arthur Blekesaune wrote:
> Can anybody help me
# Adding a delay worked well. But something is surprising. The [delay] have
to be longer than 0.1 to block this oscillating behavior. I'm attaching a
patch (delaykey.pd) which shows the implementation. I think X11 gives the
"key pressed" message in every 40 msec's or something. So 0.1 delay is not
If it's coming from the X, can't you switch off autorepeat in the X ?
Granted, I cannot find the correct documentaiton as to how to do it at
the shell level, but the XkeyboardControl structure contains a flag to
set it off or on... So there must be a way... Like xset -r ?
...
I said:
> It does not work on the computer where I am sitting
.. But actually it does work, i.e. X clients on that display no longer
receive key repeats after an xset -r is issued on any session whose
DISPLAY is the X server that I am looking at here. The PuTTy terminal
window is not a X clien
After reading on the list about Edirol UA-25 I went out and got
one on run on Debian. I can get sound when running in standard mode
or midi in advanced but can't get both. I read on the list that some-
one is running both midi and sound. Problem is the UA-25 seems to
force 24bit in advanc
Thanks for helping. Well I basically have a rough sketch of all the objects
but I am having a tough
time with the outlet system. In a nutshell opencv uses an image structure
called "typedef struct
_IplImage." Acording to them "The structure IplImage came from Intel Image
Processing Library
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 09:54 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> you are correct that only the "first loaded" patch MUST contain the
> [declare -lib].
> but since you do not know which patch is loaded first (at least you
> should not assume that you do know), i would suggest that all patches
> dep
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for helping. Well I basically have a rough sketch of all the objects
> but I am having a tough
> time with the outlet system. In a nutshell opencv uses an image structure
> called "typedef struct
> _IplImage." Acording to them "The structure IplImage came fr
Ede Cameron wrote:
>After reading on the list about Edirol UA-25 I went out and got
> one on run on Debian. I can get sound when running in standard mode
> or midi in advanced but can't get both. I read on the list that some-
> one is running both midi and sound. Problem is the UA-25 seems
I dont think I quite understood. I tried:
#define FRAMEOUT frame
IplImage *frame = 0;
x->x_outlet = outlet_new(&x->x_obj, &s_anything);
outlet_anything(x->x_outlet, FRAMEOUT);
with the same results. Maybe someone can dumb it down for me?
Alain
>
> From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I dont think I quite understood. I tried:
>
> #define FRAMEOUT frame
>
> IplImage *frame = 0;
>
> x->x_outlet = outlet_new(&x->x_obj, &s_anything);
> outlet_anything(x->x_outlet, FRAMEOUT);
>
> with the same results. Maybe someone can dumb it down for me?
just out
Hi Alain,
wouldn't it be a lot easier to take the system that you already have and
use OSC or FIDO to send the values (that you were printing) to PD
for further processing?
I am greatly in favour of using different systems for different jobs
and letting
a protocol like OSC or fido (netsend) co
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Yo!
Anyone can tell what should be the equivalent of this line on osx:
ld -export_dynamic -shared -o pippo.pd_linux pippo.o -lc -lm
?
i get
ld: unknown flag: -export_dynamic
and
ld: unknown flag: -shared
i had a look at the man id page and goo
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Yo!
Anyone can tell what should be the equivalent of this line on osx:
ld -export_dynamic -shared -o pippo.pd_linux pippo.o -lc -lm
?
i get
ld: unknown flag: -export_dynamic
and
ld: unknown flag: -shared
i had a look at the man id page and goo
Martin,
Thanks for your insight. I will look into that. It seems like sprintf/atoi is
what I need to be looking at.
Alain
>
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/05/29 Tue AM 11:51:36 EDT
> To:
> CC: Tim Boykett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED
The Intel library struct is a different data type than the Pd symbol
data type. Pd doesn't have any idea what your frame pointer is
pointing to so it throw that error. You really need to have a working
knowledge of C data types to do what you want to do.
On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PRO
You are right it would be. It would also be easier to make a self contained
external with just one
object and just use pd message system to output a list. I appreciate your
help. I guess I will try to
finish what I started using Martins suggestions and work on a standalone app at
the same ti
Hallo,
xname hat gesagt: // xname wrote:
> Anyone can tell what should be the equivalent of this line on osx:
>
> ld -export_dynamic -shared -o pippo.pd_linux pippo.o -lc -lm
I think, it's something with "-bundle" but the easiest thing to do
would be if you check out some of the Makefiles in the
finally mMm has a working arranger&sequencer with multiple pattern
ready to produce cheap crappy techno tracks.
several patches within mMm are based upon pd's help/browser, pd-list
attachments or netpd instruments.
http://puredata.info/Members/eni/mMm/mmm-0-3-atlantis
the latest release is mmm
This has been a fascinating thread about the direction of PD.
I've been thinking about parallelism and PD as multi-core processors
become common. How hard would it be to make PD able to take advantage
of parallel architecture? I'm guessing that it is decidedly
non-trivial, as lack of threadin
moin Ede, moin list,
Well, I'm successfully running both MIDI and audio off the UA-25, also
on debian (mostly) etch, and a ThinkPad T42...
First of all, don't use OSS (emulation) -- I've had no luck here with
the UA-25 in "advance mode" and Pd; as you say, probably due to 24-bititude.
Do you hav
On May 29, 2007, at 3:34 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>> Yeah, they are essentially the same thing. The advantages of using
>> [declare] would be that the names are shorter and perhaps more
>> readable in the context
Check out externals/Makefile and packages/Makefile.buildlayout. You
can see the Mac OS X, GNU/Linux, and Windows/MinGW build setup.
.hc
On May 29, 2007, at 11:56 AM, xname wrote:
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> Yo!
>
> Anyone can tell what should be the equivalent of th
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> Yo!
>
> Anyone can tell what should be the equivalent of this line on osx:
>
> ld -export_dynamic -shared -o pippo.pd_linux pippo.o -lc -lm
>
-bundle -undefined suppress -flat_namespace -o pippo.pd_l
> I dont think I quite understood. I tried:
>
> #define FRAMEOUT frame
>
> IplImage *frame = 0;
>
> x->x_outlet = outlet_new(&x->x_obj, &s_anything);
> outlet_anything(x->x_outlet, FRAMEOUT);
>
> with the same results. Maybe someone can dumb it down for me?
You can only work with atoms in pd
I just realized I should be posting in the pd-dev list so from now on any
questions I have relating to
this project will be posted there.
Martin,
I am getting a weird error when I try sym = gensym(symstr); I get
no match for 'operator=' in 'sym = gensym(((char*)(& symstr)))'
I dont know what th
Hi Alain,
I've used the OpenCV blobtracker with Pd before, and I simply send blob
positions and sizes over UDP using u_pdsend.c
I've attached my code and makefile... look in blobtrack.c and search for
where I use the pdsend_init() and pdsend_message() functions... it's
pretty simple.
Then
Alain wrote:
> I am getting a weird error when I try sym = gensym(symstr); I get
> no match for 'operator=' in 'sym = gensym(((char*)(& symstr)))'
> I dont know what thats all about. I have seen this used before with no
> problems.
That looks like a c++ error to me, maybe you should be compilin
Hi all,
The book, Theory and Techniques of Electronic Music, is now available on
paper from World Scientific Press:
http://www.worldscibooks.com/compsci/6277.html
It's still maintained on-line at the usual location:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques.htm
cheers
Miller
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I think I figured it out. It looks like I have to use t_symbol *sym
instead of t_symbol sym and the outlet has to be x->outlet_new(x-
>x_outlet0, &*sym). That seemed to work. The weird problem I am
having now it I get an error with the return(void *)x; I get error:
return-statement with a
Thanks Mike,
Its awsome how helpful people in this community can be. I will check
out you code and modify it if need be, like add the option to use an
avi in order to be able to calibrate things and such and I will post
it. I will also continue to figure out the external because I think
I see you have the ability to capture from an avi built in already:
avi_name = argv[i];
if (avi_name) pCap = cvCaptureFromFile(avi_name);
else pCap = cvCaptureFromCAM( 0 )
This is code looks great. I could figure it out from the code but if
you have any use instructions let me know. It
Sorry forgot to ask. Do you have a pd abstraction for this? If not I
will see what I can cook up. I think iemmatrix might do the trick.
Alain
On May 29, 2007, at 8:08 PM, Nose Hair wrote:
I see you have the ability to capture from an avi built in already:
avi_name = argv[i];
if (avi_name) pCa
it works, but you need to be able to recognize what additional
dependencies are needed for your machine, or code modifications for your
distro (different versions of gcc have different ideas of what
constitutes a build error, diferent versions of link-in external shared
libs are a big one too - gen
Congratulations on getting that out! I'll bet that's where you had
disappeared to in the recent past.
.hc
On May 29, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The book, Theory and Techniques of Electronic Music, is now
> available on
> paper from World Scientific Press:
>
>
We've been using Pd to teach sound and soon sensors/interaction here:
http://idmi.poly.edu
I try to make all my materials freely available. It seems that we
should all work together and come up with some kick-ass teaching
materials. Plus I think it would save us all a lot of work in the
On May 29, 2007, at 2:39 PM, chris clepper wrote:
> On 5/29/07, xname <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Yo!
>>
>> Anyone can tell what should be the equivalent of this line on osx:
>>
>> ld -export_dynamic -shared -o pippo.pd_linux pippo.o -lc -l
On May 28, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:
> Kevin McCoy wrote:
>> The gui needs work - do you mean we need more/better looking gui
>> objects? When I was working on OS X, I couldn't really use very many
>> gui objects at once because of Apple's crappy closed
>> implementation of
>> tc
That is a tough problem. On a basic level, Pd is ready right now for
two processors since it uses two separate processes: pd and pd-gui.
But the pd process does the heavy lifting, so it's a bit uneven.
As for taking advantage of multiple cores, that is a lot more
complicated. Max/MSP doe
hi all:
as far as compiling desiredata goes (on linux), it should require just the same
dependencies as building Pd. atm, errors are mostly coming from running it,
simply because its still very much of a work in progress.
shift8 said :
> it works, but you need to be able to recognize what addi
Hans-Christoph Steiner said :
>
> On May 28, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:
>
> > Kevin McCoy wrote:
> >> The gui needs work - do you mean we need more/better looking gui
> >> objects? When I was working on OS X, I couldn't really use very many
> >> gui objects at once because of Apple'
Yes, awesome news! I'll pick up a copy as soon as $78 shows up : ).
I've already learned so much from reading the PDF version. Thanks :
).
On 5/29/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Congratulations on getting that out! I'll bet that's where you had
> disappeared to in the
Well, don't impoverish yourselves... it's essentially identical to the PDF
version except more suited for reading on the beach. Next time you're in a
school library, you can always drop a hint to the librarian to get one :)
M
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:02:38PM -0400, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
>
Well, being somewhat addicted to technical manuscripts. (Amazon sends me
gifts at Christmas)..
$78 dollars is a bargain, especially considering that PD is FREE
Great Manuscript (I will buy the book), the best I have read on the topic,
congratulations!!
Michael
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I think it depends on the application for the most part, we can't
get a generic speedup from using multiple cores (forgive me if wrong)
that would apply to every single pd program. but some types of
computations such as large ffts can be performed faster when
distributed to different cores,
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