On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:32 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
>> This is a "me too"-message from me: For the same reasons as Thomas
>> I'd
>> prefer to stick with "object". While "class" is more correct, I think
>> the difference is somet
On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 07:30 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>
>> i tried to always call it 'pd-vanilla/externals', not just 'pd-
>> vanilla',
>> in order to make clear, that i am using pd-vanilla and compiling the
>> externals myself. anyway, if i
On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 11:14 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>
>> Again, this is up to the person building them. For example, the
>> externals that come with Pd in the "extra" folder are built in both
>> ways. bonk~, fiddle~ are built a
On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
>
>> i tried to always call it 'pd-vanilla/externals', not just 'pd-
>> vanilla',
>> in order to make clear, that i am using pd-vanilla and compiling the
>> externals myself. anyway,
check the send/receive properties for your 'slew' slider. ;)
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can you be a little bit more detailed, what does not work, what should
the patch do?
from briefly looking at It I have no idea what's going on...
marius.
Ed Kelly wrote:
> I made a GOP abstraction, you'll see a few of them soon.
>
> But I get a wierd thing when I try to initialise a certain valu
>> The term "class" has not really been used in Pd land much at all.
>> The term "object" has been used for both classes and instances
> Just to clarify. Abstractions are classes too? Such that an instance
> of an abstraction is called an object?
Well...everything in PD is an abject if it is save
I made a GOP abstraction, you'll see a few of them soon.
But I get a wierd thing when I try to initialise a certain value.
Someone please point out the error of my ways, maybe I can't see the wood for
the trees!!!
By the way, hello all, and thank you for your wonderful company in Montreal.
Loo
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, marius schebella wrote:
I am TOTALLY against the word class or selector in any structure
layout!!! totally confusing for 99% of the users.
Because all users are totally unwilling to learn any new concept! that's
why they go read on pdpedia, isn't it?
gahh.
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Hi there,
Something weird happened today as I was trying to use two instances of
readsf~ connected to the same "open..." message: one of the instances would
read the file fine while the other would output an error message saying that
the file header was unrecognized. I tried to delay the
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Steffen wrote:
On 13/09/2007, at 5.11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The term "class" has not really been used in Pd land much at all.
The term "object" has been used for both classes and instances
Just to clarify. Abstractions are classes too? Such that an instance
of an a
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
For example if someone is explaining about what externals are. That is a
good and every-day intuitive use of the word "class" for normal people
as well as being acceptable to us abnormal computer scientists (as Matju
pointed out already).
I wouldn'
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 11:14 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> Again, this is up to the person building them. For example, the
> externals that come with Pd in the "extra" folder are built in both
> ways. bonk~, fiddle~ are built as single files. The exprs are all
> built into one
Hallo,
Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Max Neupert wrote:
>
> >as much as i like matjus cat example and i can't help thinking of his
> >white fat shy beast roaming around his computers
>
> If you actually held that cat in your hands you'd know that
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Max Neupert wrote:
as much as i like matjus cat example and i can't help thinking of his
white fat shy beast roaming around his computers
If you actually held that cat in your hands you'd know that the cat is not
fat. Most of her volume is hair and air between the hair. S
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote:
We're talking about what term to use in pdpedia for the descriptions of
the available building blocks for patches, mainly externals and
abstractions. When building patches, what users (scientists and artists)
deal with, are objects. The only thing yo
as much as i like matjus cat example and i can't help thinking of his
white fat shy beast roaming around his computers i have to “third”
franks point.
Am 13.09.2007 um 10:29 schrieb Thomas Grill:
> Hi Frank,
> it's my turn now to absolutely second what you said.
>
> gr~~~
>
> Am 13.09.2007 u
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote:
This is a "me too"-message from me: For the same reasons as Thomas I'd
prefer to stick with "object". While "class" is more correct, I think
the difference is something only computer scientists are interested in
Until they use abstractions with send
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
apart from that, i do not see a necessity to use either of these terms.
why can't we just use "/bang" for the class (or however you want to call
it).
Because if classes have that kind of precedence, and you have a page on a
certain concept whic
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Thomas Grill wrote:
Hmmm, i can follow your reasing, but i guess noone would say "class of
cats" when he/she means cats in general. That would be "objects" for pd
then, not "class".
They wouldn't think of a cat as an object and they wouldn't say a "cat
object" either, so
so did you give it another try? is it working now?
marius.
henrik wurster wrote:
> hey marius,
> no it was my first dive into pd and arduino. yes I am on (intel) mac. it
> might be possible that other apps were still running, not processing but
> arduino. the bluetooth connection was sure open a
hey marius,
no it was my first dive into pd and arduino. yes I am on (intel) mac. it
might be possible that other apps were still running, not processing but
arduino. the bluetooth connection was sure open and not closed and sending
data was sometimes active...
2007/9/13, marius schebella <[EMAIL
On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
>
>> Does SVN handle this differently?
>
> yes and now.
> yes: you don't _have_ to create a tag and a branch whenever you
> import code.
> no: you can import code that is maintained elsewhere into a branch,
> a tag, the trunk (or just any o
On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:30 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 00:49 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On Sep 12, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>
>>> hi marius, hi iohannes
>>>
>>> sorry to chime whitout having participated yet to this discussion at
>>> all,
>>>
>>> On
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:10:42AM +0200, Atte André Jensen wrote:
> Chris McCormick wrote:
> >In this particular case of Andre's legato object,
>
> The name is Atte :-)
My apologies, how rude of me!
> >I see no positive
> >reason whatsoever for it being an external. I see several positive
> >r
It probably wouldn't be too hard to do, I think it would be mostly a
matter of building Tcl/Tk for that platform. It is really running
Mac OS X. But I am not going to touch the iPhone until Apple stops
being stupid:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/12/apple-backtracks-updates-will-most-
Hi Marius,
what i wrote in the last mail is my personal usage of notions up till
now (because i was asked). I don't think that it's the way to go.
The meta term for me is "object", as said before.
gr~~~
Am 13.09.2007 um 16:51 schrieb marius schebella:
> Thomas Grill wrote:
>> For abstractions
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 03:32:39PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
> > This is a "me too"-message from me: For the same reasons as Thomas I'd
> > prefer to stick with "object". While "class" is more correct, I think
> > the differenc
Thomas Grill wrote:
> For abstractions, the word is "abstraction". An abstraction in turn
> contains objects that may be of type "message", "sub patch",
> "abstraction" or "external/binary object".
> I always use "external object" to mean an object that can't be opened as
> a patch.
for pdpedi
hey henrik,
did you have pd running with any arduino board before? which old boards
did you try? did they also not work?
are you on a mac?
did you close all other programs, that might be conflicting with pd? the
arduino environment, processing...
on mac you also have to close the bluetooth connec
Am 13.09.2007 um 09:06 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
>
> It's a concept that they already know since they are very little.
> Many nouns refer to something that there can be many instances of
> and of which the noun acts as a class. Thus saying "the cat" refers
> to an individual, "the cats" refe
Hi Frank,
it's my turn now to absolutely second what you said.
gr~~~
Am 13.09.2007 um 15:32 schrieb Frank Barknecht:
> Hallo,
> Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
>> This is a "me too"-message from me: For the same reasons as Thomas
>> I'd
>> prefer to stick with "object".
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
> This is a "me too"-message from me: For the same reasons as Thomas I'd
> prefer to stick with "object". While "class" is more correct, I think
> the difference is something only computer scientists are interested
> in and Pd has a trad
hello marius,
the serial port was correct, because with number 2 it was
responding...arduino sends data but does not receive it... it was a pd
patch which was working with gem.
I was using using arduino.pd, arduinoControl.pd, gemmsp.pd and win.pd.
sure I could send you the folder. pd_firmware v 1.2
which pd objects are you using for communication? did you select the
correct serial port?
are you using firmata? which version of it?
on the other hand, diecimila is not really tested yet with Pd, so I
assume there might be problems...
marius.
henrik wurster wrote:
> hello list,
>
> after I con
hello list,
after I connected the new arduino diecimila with pd,some errors occured.
arduino sends data (tx), but doesnt receive any...also tried it with
various older versions
of the arduino board...anybody had the same problem ?
greets,
hank
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Hallo,
Thomas Grill hat gesagt: // Thomas Grill wrote:
> my vote is for object, although it's technically incorrect.
> Thinking of my course next semester, i guess i would have a hard time
> explaining the class/object difference to the students, most of who
> have no programming experience at
marius schebella wrote:
> what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd. in object oriented
> programming (and maybe other programming too) the instantiation of a
> "class" is called object. but referring to the miller's pd documentation
> (html) there are no classes, and he calls classes
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> Marius and I had a powwow about the pdpedia structure of the pages,
> and I think we are in agreement with this proposal. Here's the outline:
>
> http://pdpedia.at.or.at/test/index.php/Main_Page
>
> - Basically, it's as much like wikipedia as possible. For clas
Hallo,
Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
> i tried to always call it 'pd-vanilla/externals', not just 'pd-vanilla',
> in order to make clear, that i am using pd-vanilla and compiling the
> externals myself. anyway, if i compile the externals how it is described
> in the README, tha
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Thomas Grill wrote:
my vote is for object, although it's technically incorrect. Thinking of
my course next semester, i guess i would have a hard time explaining the
class/object difference to the students, most of who have no programming
experience at all.
It's a concept
On 13/09/2007, at 5.11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> The term "class" has not really been used in Pd land much at all.
> The term "object" has been used for both classes and instances
Just to clarify. Abstractions are classes too? Such that an instance
of and abstraction is called an object
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, marius schebella wrote:
what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd. in object oriented
programming (and maybe other programming too) the instantiation of a
"class" is called object. but referring to the miller's pd documentation
(html) there are no classes, and he c
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