>
> DesireData has much more substantial and interesting changes than the
> colors and backgrounds. it is also, unfortunately, not at a fully usable
> state yet. Since there were 50,000+ downloads of the previous version of
> Pd-extended ( 0.38.4), I think it's worthwhile to spend a couple days t
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 01:32:08AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> what would you actually prefer? grey borders and white filled objects?
> or just status quo?
> (i want to add: i do not dislike pd's actual appearance at all, but i am
> interested to see, if it could be improved )
Almost all visual
Well, I can't actually type anything in the new Help "Search" box (the
cursor blinks but no text appears), but the menu entries below all work as
they always have.
Cheers
Luke
On 11/3/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> And the help menu stuff works fine?
>
>
> .hc
>
> On
And the help menu stuff works fine?
.hc
On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:18 AM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
Well, good news - I only had the crash when running an autobuild
(pde 0.40.3) from September. I'm using October 26th's now and the
crash no longer occurs.
Luke
On 11/2/07, Hans-Christoph Steine
I think all the builds get this message, I don't really know what
they come from, I think they are from Gem:
> class_addmethod: 0xb7be5220
> consistency check failed: class_addmethod: textoutline_string: bad
> argument types
.hc
On Oct 24, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
> Hi hans,
no, I think every i is automatically reformatted into f when passed to
next object. maybe I am wrong...
marius.
ilya .d wrote:
> isn't it right, that we should use [i] instead of [f] every time making
> a counter which won't ever think of something in between 0 and 1 or 2
> and 3 ..!!
>
> _
If this is ready, please post a final version all in one piece. I
can't read it, so that way there is less likely to be errors.
.hc
On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:08:45PM +0100, danja vasiliev wrote:
>> Hello Ilya, good job ;)
>> i commente
Any word on a final template?
.hc
On Oct 26, 2007, at 8:16 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jaime Oliver wrote:
>
>> Well, 'clase del objeto' doesn't sound all that well, but i don't
>> think any translation will sound right,
>
> My mexican roommate Iveth says it's "clase de o
> And finally, it pains me that much of this work we're discussing has
> already been done by Mathieu and Chun : (! I have a dream, where DD and PD
> and PD-E are one.
>
Oh yes, we are dreaming the same dream - but DesireData isn't there in terms
of usability yet. I couldn't use it for anything
That's what I would do as well.
.hc
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Kevin McCoy wrote:
This is cheating but Debian has a web repository at http://
packages.debian.org where you can download packages for different
architectures and search, etc. Find out what packages Pd-extended
depends on,
Doesn't really matter as along as you are doing [+ 1]. [float] is
actually the native format for Pd, [int]/[i] involved conversion.
.hc
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:18 PM, ilya .d wrote:
> isn't it right, that we should use [i] instead of [f] every time
> making
> a counter which won't ever think
On Nov 3, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
it might also be useful to have a very subtle background grid drawn on
the canvas at certain intervals to help patch organization. Quartz
Composer has this, as does Max 5 (not saying you HAVE to have it, but
it might be a nice addition.
I lo
This is cheating but Debian has a web repository at
http://packages.debian.org where you can download packages for different
architectures and search, etc. Find out what packages Pd-extended depends
on, download the ppc .deb files from the debian server, pop them on a flash
drive and drop them on
isn't it right, that we should use [i] instead of [f] every time making
a counter which won't ever think of something in between 0 and 1 or 2
and 3 ..!!
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> it might also be useful to have a very subtle background grid drawn on
> the canvas at certain intervals to help patch organization. Quartz
> Composer has this, as does Max 5 (not saying you HAVE to have it, but
> it might be a nice addition.
>
I look at this as the equivalent of properly inde
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 20:08 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> I saw that you filled the boxes now with grey.
> actually I do not agree with roman, that this looks better, I think the
> contrast is smaller and therefore text is less readable for me.
though it probably slightly minimizes
i think all in pd gui canvas part is just right.
there is also DesireData, why wouldn't you use it to have coloured stuff?
different stuff is already in the externals (which i personally dont use
(almost, apart from a few objects)).
you can even have a three-dimensional gui made in GEM, if you
Hi Hans,
I saw that you filled the boxes now with grey.
actually I do not agree with roman, that this looks better, I think the
contrast is smaller and therefore text is less readable for me.
I would prefer white object background.
marius.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:28 P
On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Jamie Bullock wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> I think there is a lot that could be done to the look and feel of Pd
>> that would make it much more efficient and usable. I think it is
>> crucial to avoid flashiness, one of
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> I think there is a lot that could be done to the look and feel of Pd
> that would make it much more efficient and usable. I think it is
> crucial to avoid flashiness, one of Pd's strengths is its lack of
> flashiness (no seg
for what its worth, Max has a preference that sets the frequency of
all screen refreshes of patcher objects. This can be useful to reduce
GUI overhead on heavy patches.
On Nov 3, 2007, at 5:05 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
>> Even tho the screen updates at least evern 16ms, most GUI object do
>
> Even tho the screen updates at least evern 16ms, most GUI object do
> not benefit from that at all. For example, number boxes would be
> totally fine updating every 100ms or more, unless you like the look
> of blurry numbers flying by. Sliders and buttons probably would be
> fine at 50ms also
>
> it might also be useful to have a very subtle background grid drawn on
> the canvas at certain intervals to help patch organization. Quartz
> Composer has this, as does Max 5 (not saying you HAVE to have it, but
> it might be a nice addition.
something important might be the possibility of using
I agree, 1px looks better, and I very much like the versions with the
colored patch coords. I think the gray sans border ones are too
diffuse, and do not catch your eye fast enough, so you have to work
MUCH harder to make out the patch structure.
If it is possible to add user preference for
Hi!
Maybe this is more of an ubuntu package question than a Pd question, but...
I've got an old iMac running xubuntu at home, except that home has no
internet connection. When I tried installing the pd-extended package
it went and tried to download the depends, which of course it
couldn't, becaus
Hello.
I am brainstorming about rewriting a Pd patch I wrote as a standalone
program, for several reasons. I wrote it very haphazardly the first time,
learning to program simultaneously. I've since gained a much greater
understanding of C, and a smattering of some other languages. Also, the
othe
Hi,
I use PD quite a lot, and it sometimes happens to me that it crashes.
Sometimes I have been able to isolate and identify the cause of the crash,
in which case either it was a known bug or I reported it, or the crash was
triggered by some errors in my patches that I could fix.
However, ther
hi all
i like the idea of optimizing pd's appearance, although i think it's
only details, that should be improved. personally, i'd prefer boxes like
that:
http://romanhaefeli.net/ramsch/nu_peedee_stuyl.png
because:
1) 1px border looks better. 2px or more looks like drawn with a clumsy
pencil
2)
On 11/3/07, Steffen Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 03/11/2007, at 8.02, hard off wrote:
>
> > i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy
> > way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc...
>
> There is also the http://puredata.info website people can
I think there is a lot that could be done to the look and feel of Pd
that would make it much more efficient and usable. I think it is
crucial to avoid flashiness, one of Pd's strengths is its lack of
flashiness (no segmented patch cords! ;) But small things can make a
big difference.
Fo
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:53 +0100, Steffen Juul wrote:
> On 03/11/2007, at 8.02, hard off wrote:
>
> > i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy
> > way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc...
>
> There is also the http://puredata.info website people c
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 06:14:28PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> you don't need to convert anything, since pd-files already are
> textfiles, but with the extension '.pd'.
>
> roman
>
on windows there may be an EOL problem, so notepad or something won't
display it propertly - all will go in one l
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 06:58:12AM -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
> Hallo, I've mentioned this before... if the issue is worth $15 to you you
> can grab this : )http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/
> (no affiliation)
>
> Cheers
> Luke
>
probably mac users can afford such little things :_)
.. e
Hallo, I've mentioned this before... if the issue is worth $15 to you you
can grab this : )http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/
(no affiliation)
Cheers
Luke
On 11/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:21:34AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Mathieu
On 03/11/2007, at 8.02, hard off wrote:
> i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy
> way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc...
There is also the http://puredata.info website people can use. For
tutorials for instance folks can add to http://pureda
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:02:11PM +0900, hard off wrote:
> i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy
> way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc...
> so, this should complement the pdpedia quite well.
>
> http://practical-data.wikidot.com/
>
> anyone is
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:21:34AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> >
> > What do you mean, "resizing does not always help"?
> >
>
> Resizing the window doesn't always cause a scrollbar to appear.
> Tim
that looks like the old wll known bug.
it appears after you edit th
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:58:20AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Sometimes this happens here on ubuntu too. Quite annoying.
>> Resizing does not always help.
>> What I do then is CTRL+a and SHIFT+arrow-keys to move the contents of the
>> patch.
>
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