[PD] reactive visualization toolkits

2007-11-05 Thread cdr
>> What kind of libraries or toolkits enable the functions of things like >> [drawpolygon] and [drawnumber]? what pd attempts to do with those objects is a juicy area. theres a number of interesting recent papers on the subject of functional reactive GUIs and/or function-composition based GUI

Re: [PD] a patch closing itself

2007-11-05 Thread marius schebella
I think that causes pd to crash. you have to send the message to some parent patch, together with the name of the patch, that should be closed, and do the menuclose from there with a dalay 0. marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I just thought of a very useful reason to be able to use [menucl

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 04/11/2007, at 17.21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> Avoid BWidget and Iwidgets since those aren't currently included >> in Pd's Tcl/Tk. > > Does anyone know of alternative "tricks" wrt. building tab'ed windows? Maybe it's worth it to

[PD] a patch closing itself

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just thought of a very useful reason to be able to use [menuclose ( to close the current patch. If we replace things like the find panel, preferences, etc with pd patches, then they should be able to close themselves so you can do things like bind Return/Enter to "OK" and Esc to "Cancel"

Re: [PD] [Pd] Graphics Toolkits?

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Tcl is whacky, but Tk is quite flexible and well developed for making GUIs. Check out tomorrow's auto-build if you want to make your mouse cursor turn into gumby :) It's in hcs/cursor-help.pd .hc On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: I have now discovered the wonder that is

Re: [PD] Crash in Leopard

2007-11-05 Thread marius schebella
Hi, it seems OS 10.5 does not like everything that is called "help" or "Help" in the menubar, which causes Pd to crash. In pd.tk I replaced all mbar.help with mbar.help2 and -label "Help" with -label "Help!" and it works. This must be a bug in OS X 10.5, since the above should not be necessary.

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-05 Thread marius schebella
I think tutorials could live on pdpedia too. but at the moment there are none. marius. hard off wrote: > hans, i got the general impression that pdpedia has been made as a > kind of dictionary of pd objects. > > at the moment there is no section for user-patches / tutorials etc... > > so i set

Re: [PD] [Pd] Graphics Toolkits?

2007-11-05 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
I have now discovered the wonder that is Tcl/Tk. There goes the next few weeks of my life... -Chuckk On 11/3/07, Chuckk Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello. > I am brainstorming about rewriting a Pd patch I wrote as a standalone > program, for several reasons. I wrote it very haphazardl

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-05 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 11/5/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > I'm all for centralization; however, I've never liked the puredata.info > > layout > > hmm, layouts that please everybody, anyone? Sorry, poor choice of phrasing; I've found the site a

[PD] GEM pix_contrast

2007-11-05 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hello all, i am analyzing the pix_contrast object and can't get through this. If both the contrast and saturation values are 0., shouldn't we obtain a black image? I'm just getting gray... best, J -- Jaime E Oliver LR [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www

[PD] pd-extended - auto-build - zexy not working

2007-11-05 Thread patrick
hi, i am on gutsy and try to install auto-build/2007-11-04/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071104-debian-testing-i386.deb i cannot because: libflac7 is not install (libflac8 is) so i unpack and do a manual installation (cp -R /usr etc...). but there's a problem with zexy: libdir_loader: added cyclone to

Re: [PD] high pass filter for images

2007-11-05 Thread Spencer Russell
Do you want to out pixels that are constant in time, or are you looking for a 2-dimentional spacial highpass? -spencer On 11/5/07, punchik punchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi i making a multituouch surface with pd, i want be > able to filter the low and middle bands in the video > from my web

Re: [PD] high pass filter for images

2007-11-05 Thread Peter Plessas
Hi, interesting project, how are you doing it? Back-projection and a IR-cam? I am not an image processing whiz, but you could try to subtract your image from a lowpass-filtered copy of the same image. Should give a highpass then. But i am sure there are more clever ways of doing it. Basically a HP

[PD] high pass filter for images

2007-11-05 Thread punchik punchik
hi i making a multituouch surface with pd, i want be able to filter the low and middle bands in the video from my web cam. im interesting in just letting the high images pass... is there something like a high pass filter for imagens? thanks __ Do

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 5, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 05/11/2007, at 18.23, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >>> The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify >>> variables in tcl-syntax: >>> >>> set theme_bgcolor grey >>> set theme_bwidth 2 >>> ... >>> >> >> FYI, th

[PD] integers problem [attached file]

2007-11-05 Thread Raphaël ILIAS
sorry... i forgot to attach the file. _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail example.pd Description: 3079461925-example.pd __

[PD] integers problem

2007-11-05 Thread Raphaël ILIAS
hello list ! i have got a little problem... i try to format numbers as they may represent 4 integers with the following "decimal scheme" : a.bccdd so that 1.23456 becomes the list 1 2 34 56. i thougth this could be useful to store formatted-lists in arrays (maybe saw it's easier with data-structu

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: I think it would be possible to do something like that in Pd and the iemguis, since you can move them with messages. There is an alpha version of [cursor] in today's build which will give you the mouse cursor position. I just got some idea

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Steffen Juul
On 05/11/2007, at 18.23, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify >> variables in tcl-syntax: >> >> set theme_bgcolor grey >> set theme_bwidth 2 >> ... >> > > FYI, this should be possible now using [textfile] and [sys_gui]. See >

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
er, sorry, forgot to cc list > > I think it would be possible to do something like that in Pd and the > > iemguis, since you can move them with messages. > > > > There is an alpha version of [cursor] in today's build which will > > give you the mouse cursor position. I just got some ideas of how t

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
> The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify > variables in tcl-syntax: > > set theme_bgcolor grey > set theme_bwidth 2 > ... > FYI, this should be possible now using [textfile] and [sys_gui]. See my "themer" example I posted last night, then add [textfile] and som

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2007, at 11:59 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, marius schebella wrote: > >> in case you have not seen this yet.. (max toolbox) >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9064204491926904985 > > Yes, there was a talk about a Pd version of this, at > PdConvention2007.

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:45 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Nicolas Montgermont wrote: >> Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify > variables in tcl-syntax: > > set theme_bgcolor grey > set theme_bwidth 2 >

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Right, for user patches, tec. puredata.info has sections. Perhaps they could be improved. If you want to do it, join the pdweb list and make a proposal :) .hc On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:42 AM, hard off wrote: > hans, i got the general impression that pdpedia has been made as a > kind of dictio

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-05 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Yes, it seems to me that puredata.info is already the place for this. I'd rather put the effort into making puredata.info friendly than further fracture the community. First, you can already create your own "self-contained" universe inside of puredata.info if you'd like to start from scratch on ma

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
> > > hmm, why do you want to differentiate between a "normal" object and an > abstraction? > i always considered abstractions to be equal to internals and externals. > (they are not from an API point-of-view; but i think that this is a bug > rather than a feature) Distinguishing between external

Re: [PD] centered vibrato question

2007-11-05 Thread Libero Mureddu
Thank you very much, Derek, Martin and Claude for your solution. best regards, Libero On 11/5/07, Claude Heiland-Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Libero Mureddu wrote: > > In the attached patch, I´d like to have a vibrato that is the same (in > > pitch) both above and below the carrier freque

Re: [PD] centered vibrato question

2007-11-05 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Libero Mureddu wrote: In the attached patch, I´d like to have a vibrato that is the same (in pitch) both above and below the carrier frequency. I don´t know how to do it in pd. Use [mtof~] in the "right" place (just before the oscillator), see attached, hope it's what you want; if you don't w

Re: [PD] centered vibrato question

2007-11-05 Thread Martin Peach
You can use mtof~ as in the attached patch. Martin Libero Mureddu wrote: Hi all, In the attached patch, I´d like to have a vibrato that is the same (in pitch) both above and below the carrier frequency. I don´t know how to do it in pd. centered_vibrato.pd Description: application/puredat

Re: [PD] centered vibrato question

2007-11-05 Thread Derek Holzer
[mtof] should do it, if you use microtonal MIDI notes. best, d. Libero Mureddu wrote: > Hi all, > > In the attached patch, I´d like to have a vibrato that is the same (in > pitch) both above and below the carrier frequency. > I don´t know how to do it in pd. > So far I found a solution at the c

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Nicolas Montgermont wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify variables in tcl-syntax: set theme_bgcolor grey set theme_bwidth 2 ... > One ideal feature would be to make a distinction

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 16:12 +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > > > >>> The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify > >>> variables in tcl-syntax: > >>> > >>> set theme_bgcolor grey > >>> set theme_bwidth 2 > >>> ... > >>> > One

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > >>> The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify >>> variables in tcl-syntax: >>> >>> set theme_bgcolor grey >>> set theme_bwidth 2 >>> ... >>> One ideal feature would be to make a distinction between normal objects and subpatc

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > I'm all for centralization; however, I've never liked the puredata.info > layout hmm, layouts that please everybody, anyone? > and setup. When you find a link to a > file, you first have to visit the page where the file is listed, and for if y

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-05 Thread hard off
hans, i got the general impression that pdpedia has been made as a kind of dictionary of pd objects. at the moment there is no section for user-patches / tutorials etc... so i set this page up. can we post patches and tutorials on pdpedia ?? if so, i might just delete this page, and concentrate

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > one of the thoughts is, that I think there is a difference between the > "programmer" (the one that writes a patch) and the "user". these two > types need different features of gui improvement. > the programmer wants to work in a n

[PD] Subtle Technologies Call for Submissions on "light"

2007-11-05 Thread jim ruxton
Thought this may be of interest to some PDers ... Jim Call for Submissions Subtle Technologies Festival 2008 light Recognized internationally as a unique forum that encourages new insights and collaborations, Subtle Technologies challenges its participants to contemplate how art and science

Re: [PD] Crash in Leopard

2007-11-05 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
OK, I can now corroborate this. This crash does occur on my Intel Mac, but not on my G5 (sorry about the 10-26 autobuild red herring). 10.5 on both, 11/04 autobuild. I'll put this in the tracker. I'll try to find time to poke around pd.tk! Cheers Luke On 11/4/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL