[PD] OSCx linux install

2009-01-04 Thread James Hearon
Hi, I wanted to add OSCx to my pd Vanilla on Fedora10. I used the OSCx folder from the pd-externals tarball on sourceforge. I followed instructions in the readme, except there is no rule to make install. It built a libOSC.a, but I can't seem to figure out where to put the lib or any other

Re: [PD] A glitch free delay line abstraction

2009-01-04 Thread Amos Robinson
(Half-asleep, but:) I don't know why the two delwrite~s are there, if they both take the same input and same size? But in any case, I'd prepend the names of the delay lines with $0- as in [delwrite~ $0-A 2000] ($0 is interpolated as the patch id, so then each instance will use a separate delay lin

Re: [PD] Grid in abstraction crash

2009-01-04 Thread Mitchell Turner
Oh, I see. I did not realize this was an already-discussed issue. Thanks for you time. Mitch On Jan 4, 2009, at 10:40 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > hola, > > i know this but this is not specific to grid, > all graphical objects will provoke the same crashes, > there's something about fre

Re: [PD] BUG found in last release

2009-01-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:36 +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: > I forgot to tell it's on win32, with 0.42 release > > Patrice Colet a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: > > > > 1° open a patch > > 2° modify something > > 3° quit PureData > > 4° Click "No" > > 5° Try t

Re: [PD] BUG found in last release

2009-01-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, works fine on linux - I'll get into my windoze machine tomorrow to try that. thanks Miller On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:30:35AM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: > Hello, > > the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: > > 1? open a patch > 2? modify something > 3? quit PureData > 4? Click "No" > 5?

Re: [PD] BUG found in last release

2009-01-04 Thread Patrice Colet
I forgot to tell it's on win32, with 0.42 release Patrice Colet a écrit : > Hello, > > the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: > > 1° open a patch > 2° modify something > 3° quit PureData > 4° Click "No" > 5° Try to enter in edit mode > 6° good luck > > PatCo > > > _

[PD] BUG found in last release

2009-01-04 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello, the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: 1° open a patch 2° modify something 3° quit PureData 4° Click "No" 5° Try to enter in edit mode 6° good luck PatCo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.pu

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread marius schebella
cyrille henry wrote: > > > marius schebella a écrit : > ... >> [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto-completion >> could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list >> of standard combinations for this object. >> marius. > > make an GOP abstraction with

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread marius schebella
Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > >> but wouldn't it be nice to have shortcuts for all the combinations that >> you have to type 10 times a day? >> for example I create [metro] and then a auto-completion shortcut will >> add a connected t

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: It wasn't in 2004, it was in 2007, and the paper was entirely the work of Chun Lee, and almost all of the code is his as well, although he decided to put my name on it and we presented the results

Re: [PD] is there a [route] with changeable compare arguments?

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: But I think, the approach of [select] with a second inlet would be feasible for [route] as well. I submitted a feature request regarding this some time ago. I thought I had done that for [route], but I didn't. I only modified [select] so that it has

[PD] London Patching Circles - 25/01/09

2009-01-04 Thread errordeveloper
Hi. fallowing earlier discussion .. Let's do it on Sun 25th, mayb? it seems that should be alright, we still have 3 weeks to prepere and looking at the dates all of you guys mentioned when you gonna be away it looks like generally that weekend 23,24,25 is good, isn't it? _

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread cyrille henry
marius schebella a écrit : ... > [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto-completion > could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list of > standard combinations for this object. > marius. make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a openpanel. Cyrille ___

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 08:35 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: > A partial answer - in 0.42 (available in a test version), control-1, etc, > which create new objects, will automatically connect from the currently > selected object if there is one. (It does nothing with multiple selections > though...)

Re: [PD] is there a [route] with changeable compare arguments?

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Rich E wrote: > > >Still, I don't see why [route] should not have a 'set' message like > >many of the other built-in objects, at least for its first argument. > > You can't do that, because then [route] wouldn't

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > but wouldn't it be nice to have shortcuts for all the combinations that > you have to type 10 times a day? > for example I create [metro] and then a auto-completion shortcut will > add a connected toggle? or cycle through a set of

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Note the use of Ctl-6 instead of Ctl-1 to chain new objects. I like that *a lot*. It could be extended to Ctl-7, Ctl-8 and Ctl-9 for messages, numbers, and symbols. No need for an additional Shift-modifier and fully compatible to the old behaviour.

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, cyrille henry wrote: on AZERTY keyboard, you need to press shift+1 to have a "1" object box are currently made pressing Ctrl+Shift+1. So, it's not possible to change the use of Ctrl+Shift+1/2/3/4/5... I mean: _if_ there were a way to change it so that you don't need the S

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread marius schebella
Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: > >> I'm really digging the direction this is going. If I could just chip my >> 2c into the fray: I have to agree with Frank that being able to select a >> tower of object boxes and then click a key combination

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread marius schebella
cyrille henry wrote: > > Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : >> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> > >> Exactly, that's why dd used Ctrl+6 for doing what Ctrl+1 does but with >> an auto-connection. However, it doesn't extend to messageboxes. This >> could be extended either by Ctrl+7 for mess

[PD] rme fireface 400

2009-01-04 Thread nick burge
Hello List, I have trouble with an RME fireface 400 using the windows ASIO driver on a laptop. It works fine under Ableton Live on the same machine, giving me the prescribed 8 inputs and 8 outputs, but with PD i am limited to 2 in and 2 out. I have tried using the channels, audioindev and audioout

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread cyrille henry
Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Exactly, that's why dd used Ctrl+6 for doing what Ctrl+1 does but with > an auto-connection. However, it doesn't extend to messageboxes. This > could be extended either by Ctrl+7 for messagebox if we just want to > f

Re: [PD] is there a [route] with changeable compare arguments?

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Rich E wrote: Still, I don't see why [route] should not have a 'set' message like many of the other built-in objects, at least for its first argument. You can't do that, because then [route] wouldn't be routing set-messages anymore. That's one of the big recurrent problems

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Here's Chun and Matju's pd~conv paper: "Keyboard-only Interface For Pure Data" http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/18-Lee-Bouchard.pdf In general I think, Pd should not try to outsmart the user. Finding the most "stupid" solutions to problems has been a g

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Chris McCormick wrote: If I recall, there was a neat video posted ages back, probably by Chun or Matju, There's one gallery folder here: http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/ It has 3 videos: http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/connection.mpeg http://artengine.c

Re: [PD] Grid in abstraction crash

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, ydego...@gmail.com hat gesagt: // ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > i know this but this is not specific to grid, > all graphical objects will provoke the same crashes, Seems to be fixed in pd-0.41/42. At least I cannot make Pd crash anymore by closing a patch which has an GOP abstraction inside

Re: [PD] is there a [route] with changeable compare arguments?

2009-01-04 Thread Rich E
Frank, You always have such clean approach :) I should look through your list-abs collection closer as I always end up using a much more awkward solution. Still, I don't see why [route] should not have a 'set' message like many of the other built-in objects, at least for its first argument. che

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 01:38:58PM +0100, João Pais wrote: > Another note: what window managers do you advise? I find the simple, > low-cal approach of fluxbox / enlightenment better as the sugar-puffed > gnome etc. Any remarks against using any of these? By the way, one of the > things that

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 03:19:32PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > > > speaking of max features. to draw connections from one object to several > > objects ... > > Ah, fanning connections. I try to avoid them. Yep, but as discus

Re: [PD] Grid in abstraction crash

2009-01-04 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
hola, i know this but this is not specific to grid, all graphical objects will provoke the same crashes, there's something about freeing graphic objects in 'graph-on-parent' mode. no time to look further in it. ciao, sevy Mitchell Turner wrote: > Dear all, > I am having a problem with the [grid

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Andy Farnell
Chun made an inspiring presentation at FAVE2006. A feature that stays with me was a 'object mode' where an object could be "active for patching", son whenever it passed over the path of a cord the object was inserted (the cord was patched to the object inlet and outlet) I cant remember if it wa

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread João Pais
I will try it at some point, just don't know yet how long it will take. If something doesn't work, you'll get a whining mail for sure. 2009/1/4 Roman Haefeli > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 13:39 +0100, João Pais wrote: > > > > > btw, I also wanted to use the rme hdsp card on my desktop - must just ge

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 13:39 +0100, João Pais wrote: > > btw, I also wanted to use the rme hdsp card on my desktop - must just get > a pci-pcmcia adapter. Does any of you has anything to warn against this? > a quick search showed me, that those adapters cost only a few bucks and have support f

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > speaking of max features. to draw connections from one object to several > objects ... Ah, fanning connections. I try to avoid them. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUB

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread marius schebella
y wrote: > Chris McCormick wrote: >> Hi Miller, >> >> I'm really digging the direction this is going. If I could just chip my >> 2c into the fray: I have to agree with Frank that being able to select a >> tower of object boxes and then click a key combination to connect them >> by patch cords would

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 01:38:30PM +0100, y wrote: > Chris McCormick wrote: > > > >If I recall, there was a neat video posted ages back, probably by Chun > >or Matju, which illustrated some of the cool UI stuff possible in Max > >with some plugin. Sorry to be so vague, I can't remember the link. Ma

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 01:34:48PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: > > > I'm really digging the direction this is going. If I could just chip my > > 2c into the fray: I have to agree with Frank that being able to select a > > tower of

[PD] Grid in abstraction crash

2009-01-04 Thread Mitchell Turner
Dear all, I am having a problem with the [grid] GUI object (found in "unauthorized"). The problem occurs when I use the grid object in an abstraction (graphing on parent). I make a new patcher window, I create an object (which is my abstraction containing several grid objects), now on try

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: > And here's how DesireData has keyboard navigation implemented: > http://code.goto10.org/projects/desiredata/wiki/UserDocs Oh, and to continue replying to myself: Here's "14. Automatic object chaining" in DD: 14.1 this feature pro

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: > Here's Chun and Matju's pd~conv paper: "Keyboard-only Interface For Pure > Data" http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/18-Lee-Bouchard.pdf And here's how DesireData has keyboard navigation implemented: http://code.goto10.org/projects/des

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread João Pais
thanks for your replies. I really don't have much free time (sometimes the free time is already scheduled), and am not a bash/unix guru (although I'm not that dumb). but I really don't have the time/pacience to go (again!!) to visit x forums to know why this flag gives an error while compili

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread y
Chris McCormick wrote: > Hi Miller, > > I'm really digging the direction this is going. If I could just chip my > 2c into the fray: I have to agree with Frank that being able to select a > tower of object boxes and then click a key combination to connect them > by patch cords would be useful, as wo

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: > I'm really digging the direction this is going. If I could just chip my > 2c into the fray: I have to agree with Frank that being able to select a > tower of object boxes and then click a key combination to connect them > by patch cord

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-04 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Miller, I'm really digging the direction this is going. If I could just chip my 2c into the fray: I have to agree with Frank that being able to select a tower of object boxes and then click a key combination to connect them by patch cords would be useful, as would a keystroke to auto-space thin

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread Lukasz Jastrzebski
Hi! If you are really lazy, take Ubuntustudio with LTS (8.04). And do not change 8.04 to 8.10 (or other) untill next LTS release. Or switch to 8.10 when 9.04 will be near-ready. With normal release (not LTS) you'll get pissed off twice a year "just because" you'll loose your software untill someon

[PD] A glitch free delay line abstraction

2009-01-04 Thread David Schaffer
Hi there, I haven't been around in a while but I think i got something that might help some of you: I've red lots of questions a couple of month ago about the fact that, when dynamically changing the time of a delay line, one could here a pitch shift noise; so I build an abstraction that p

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread altern
PSPunch(e)k dio: >> What do you think might be the better approach, to use ubuntu normal, or >> ubuntustudio? Roman told me that for a while there's no big difference, >> because the -rt kernel comes with ubuntu. Is ubuntustudio more than a >> bundle of software with nice backgrounds? (Note:

Re: [PD] Ubuntu vs. ubuntustudio?

2009-01-04 Thread Patrice Colet
Hi, The great advantage of using linux is that we can have a choice of installed applications. If there are many computers to setup and if ubuntustudio is compatible with all the computers, the gain of installing time would be so relevant. On a single computer, I don't see the point of i