Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Steffen Juul
On 05/01/2009, at 20.24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Basically, the sooner we have the new u_main.tk replacement code > finished, the sooner we can start tackling things like this in a > rational fashion. Here are some parts that are good modules to > work on: > > - unified preference pane

Re: [PD] BUG found in last release

2009-01-05 Thread Miller Puckette
OK -- try Pd 0.42-1. cheers M On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:30:35AM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: > Hello, > > the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: > > 1? open a patch > 2? modify something > 3? quit PureData > 4? Click "No" > 5? Try to enter in edit mode > 6? good luck > > PatCo > > > _

[PD] [Fwd: Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui]

2009-01-05 Thread ydego...@free.fr
would you stop wishing ( xmas is over ) --- Begin Message --- i don't know what you're talking about since years, if you want to know my opinion are these just fancy options that will never come to life again ? i absolutely do not believe in automatic patching, iemgui was proven to be the only t

Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Luke Iannini
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:42 AM, volker böhm wrote: > marius schebella a écrit : ... > [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- > completion > could directly be taken from the help patch for

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, There are a lot of good ideas in this thread, and it would be great if people try them out in a flexible manner to see what works. This is a problem that needs to be tackled as a whole, I think things will get ugly fast new behaviors are tacked on here and there. So I suggest exp

[PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:42 AM, volker böhm wrote: >>> >>> marius schebella a écrit : >>> ... [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- completion could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list of standard combinations for this object

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 5, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > >> Depends on how big your hands are. My span (Keyboard player) >> makes up to CTRL+6 comfortable, but 7, 8, 9 and 0 are painful. > > One hint for Linux users: You can map the Capslock-

[PD] "Discard changes" dialog WAS: left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This dialog drives me nuts too. And it confuses a lot of people. You really shouldn't have to think about such dialogs, they should be automatic. The question in Pd is opposite of the GNOME, Windows and Mac OS X standard panels. On Mac OS X, the standard dialog is: "Do you want to save

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Jamie Bullock wrote: Keep It Simple Stupid! Oh, everybody agrees on this, they just don't agree on what simplicity is and how to achieve it. Furthermore, you could also extend Ctrl+Return, making it the shortcut for connecting already instantiated objects. I.e if we sel

[PD] svg?

2009-01-05 Thread
hi list, does anybody know how to manage and manipulate .svg vector images in pd? any external / library for this in pdp or gem? salut xà! -- rm -rf / i ens ho carreguem tot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

[PD] audio buffer-swapping

2009-01-05 Thread Greg
I'm not sure if that's the right term for what I'm trying to do. But what I'm looking for is a way to rewrite a sample very quickly, so say have some sample you are working with. Now, you want to work with a different sample, say after a very small fade-out fade-in (<100ms) or "instantly" in perfor

Re: [PD] Seamless recording of 2 consecutive audio files?

2009-01-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Florian Hollerweger hat gesagt: // Florian Hollerweger wrote: > Is it possible to record 2 audio files with [writesf~] in a manner that > the second starts "exactly after" the first one stops? In other words so > that there will be a seamless (click-free) transisition when glueing the > two

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, marius schebella wrote: 1) the position of the objects is actually not really interesting for the pd engine. neither are comments or subpatches. I'd like to say that object positions do not matter, but [inlet] and [outlet] still depend on their x-coordinate to sort themsel

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-0 released

2009-01-05 Thread errordeveloper
hello Miller, could you please tell us a bit more about -batch mode..? you said it will run faster, right? so we can use for processing or generating soundfiles quicker then it takes in real .. does it imply -nogui as well? may be someone who knows the best use for them could write an article w

[PD] open call xxxxx_temporary_structure Club Transmediale january 2009

2009-01-05 Thread Derek Holzer
open call x_temporary_structure Club Transmediale january 2009 x seeks 6-8 interested participants to join us in a public laboratory structure during Club Transmediale in Berlin, from 22-31 January 2008 at the Kunstlerhaus Bethanien. Selected participants will have the opportunity to work

[PD] Seamless recording of 2 consecutive audio files?

2009-01-05 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi everybody, Is it possible to record 2 audio files with [writesf~] in a manner that the second starts "exactly after" the first one stops? In other words so that there will be a seamless (click-free) transisition when glueing the two together. Peter Plessas and I have tried this with the attach

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread marius schebella
Patrice Colet wrote: > something like this that's nice. but for me the problem with patching lies a level deeper: the graphical representation of the patch and the inner pd process are too much entangled. 1) the position of the objects is actually not really interesting for the pd engine. neit

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Amos Robinson
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > >> Depends on how big your hands are. My span (Keyboard player) >> makes up to CTRL+6 comfortable, but 7, 8, 9 and 0 are painful. > > One hint for Linux users: You can map the Capslo

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > Depends on how big your hands are. My span (Keyboard player) > makes up to CTRL+6 comfortable, but 7, 8, 9 and 0 are painful. One hint for Linux users: You can map the Capslock-key to be control easily with this in xorg.conf: Section "Inpu

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Patrice Colet
something like this Patrice Colet a écrit : Hello, A work around might be about using the [tot] in capture mode (see monkey example) and [popup] external for storing commands, unfortunately I've no time yet to do this... best regards to everyone PatCo. volker böhm a écrit : marius sch

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:40:59 +0100 "Lukasz Jastrzebski" wrote: > I think the ctrl + 1 (2, 3...) shortcut not so good way. And I don't > see any reason not to make inserting objects (or text in objects) more > intuitive, usable, ergonomic. Not only this is an unpleasant > two-fingered combination,

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello, A work around might be about using the [tot] in capture mode (see monkey example) and [popup] external for storing commands, unfortunately I've no time yet to do this... best regards to everyone PatCo. volker böhm a écrit : >>> marius schebella a écrit : >>> ... [openpanel] alwa

Re: [PD] rme fireface 400

2009-01-05 Thread nick burge
Hi Andrew and Joao, thanks for your replies. In the bin directory there are 2 different PD executables, one of which provides a msDOS command prompt which displays errors as you go. I can also test the results of changes that I make using the provided test audio and midi patch, which has built into

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Lukasz Jastrzebski
Hi Mathieu! Hi Jamie! Hi Andy! Hi List! >> Another idea I just had, is to have Ctrl+Return do like Return does >> (finish the object), plus creating a dangling wire that will auto-connect >> to whichever object is created next. The Escape key could delete the >> dangling wire. I think the ctrl +

Re: [PD] array-edit: Array editor patch

2009-01-05 Thread João Pais
>> after noticing I had all these tricks on how to edit arrays stored in >> separate patches, I decided to centralize them. The result is the >> present >> patch, which works around the same way as the gui-edit patch you might >> already know (folder extra/jmmmp). To use it, you need Pd-Extended.

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Andy Farnell
This would be a new Put menu operation? In my dreams Put has several subs under object Put->Object->Empty (The current behaviour. Default) Put->Object->Last or a special Put->Again (Whatever the last completed object was. Or as mentioned in this thread, a more general "Repeat last command"

[PD] [GEM] pix_preview for windows

2009-01-05 Thread Jean-Yves Gratius
Hi list, Happy new year ! I wrote a freeframe plugin, workaround for having multiple "pix_preview"-like windows in GEM (windows only) download here : http://jy.gratius.free.fr?q=node/161 to be continued... jy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCR

Re: [PD] array-edit: Array editor patch

2009-01-05 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi João, On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 21:59 +0100, João Pais wrote: > after noticing I had all these tricks on how to edit arrays stored in > separate patches, I decided to centralize them. The result is the present > patch, which works around the same way as the gui-edit patch you might > alread

Re: [PD] rme fireface 400

2009-01-05 Thread João Pais
I don't have a multiface, but - what flags you use to configure pd? are you asking for the right devices/channels/asio? - what's the result of -listdev? for my multiface it always worked with -asio -audioindev 12 -audiooutdev 12 -channels 18 > Hello List, I have trouble with an RME firefac

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 15:50 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Another idea I just had, is to have Ctrl+Return do like Return does > (finish the object), plus creating a dangling wire that will auto-connect > to whichever object is created next. The Escape key could delete the > dangling wire. I

[PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-01-05 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi List, I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active "instance" of a patch. Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated in other abstractions. While patching i decide to chang

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-05 Thread volker böhm
>> >> marius schebella a écrit : >> ... >>> [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- >>> completion >>> could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list >>> of standard combinations for this object. >>> marius. >> >> make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a

Re: [PD] OSCx linux install

2009-01-05 Thread Oded Ben-Tal
You should use OSC objects from mrpeach library in any case and (hopefully) you should be able to compile mrpeach library. I wanted to add OSCx to my pd Vanilla on Fedora10.  I used the OSCx folder from the pd-externals tarball on sourceforge.  I followed instructions in the readme, except