[PD] Release candidate 6 of L2Ork iteration of pd-extended now available

2010-12-06 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Fixes include: *colored selection rectangle the same color as default select color *fixed bug where gop-ed abstractions with hidden text should not resize when activated to accommodate text that is not there to begin with *fixed segfault when trying to disconnect (NB: core Pd developers may want to

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Its not "illegal" because its a not about laws, but rather copyright licenses, which is more like contracts, i.e. agreements between private parties. Right. I used the wrong word. I'm sorry. __

Re: [PD] Fwd: Fullscreen plugin

2010-12-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Nice, I like that. Good for when you really need to focus on patching. I would just do the binding like this to support the Mac OS X common fullscreen key, Cmd-Shift-F (note the + too): if {$::windowingsystem eq "aqua"} { bind all {+toggle_fullscreen %W} } else { bind all {+togg

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its not "illegal" because its a not about laws, but rather copyright licenses, which is more like contracts, i.e. agreements between private parties. Currently pidip is in a state where the two licenses conflict irreconcilably. So if you use pidip under Yves' license, you could be sued

Re: [PD] Video Mapping or Morph GEM?

2010-12-06 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Yes... works...funny! thanks a lot dear list. José 2010/12/6 Max : > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-03/077319.html > > > Am 06.12.2010 um 21:46 schrieb Jose Luis Santorcuato: > >> Dear list, working with my students came up with the questions about >> an object that can modify

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread tim vets
my two cents: It crossed my mind that many programs on the first run show you the 'preferences' window automatically. This is not always entirely useless if you ask me. I can imagine that in pd-extended for example, the first time you start it, you would be asked what externals you want loaded (I g

Re: [PD] GUI plugins

2010-12-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:51 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2010/12/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:31 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2010/12/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:41 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner Hey András, Since we are in

[PD] Fwd: Fullscreen plugin

2010-12-06 Thread András Murányi
-- Forwarded message -- From: Santa Claus Date: 2010/12/6 Subject: Fullscreen plugin To: muran...@gmail.com here is a little Pd 0.43 plugin that makes your patches go fullscreen with the button. hope you'll like it :) fullscreen-plugin.tcl Description: Tcl script __

[PD] Invitación a conectarnos en LinkedIn

2010-12-06 Thread José Luis Santorcuato Tapia via LinkedIn
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Re: [PD] Video Mapping or Morph GEM?

2010-12-06 Thread Max
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-03/077319.html Am 06.12.2010 um 21:46 schrieb Jose Luis Santorcuato: > Dear list, working with my students came up with the questions about > an object that can modify a map or projection, that is, adjust the > projection points to a particular o

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread András Murányi
2010/12/6 Mathieu Bouchard > On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, András Murányi wrote: > > Annoying for me, even if i'm interested in the software. But that's just >> me. For those who find it useful, this could be developed into something >> that can really be started up when pd starts - sounds like a plugin?

Re: [PD] gridflow-9.13 on win32 [was: Re: Musical notation object on Pd]

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, patko wrote: it looks like we can have real score display on pd! Unfortunately it's using a lot of bandwidth, as it goes through [#see], but that's ok as long as you don't need to use them to display the output of several [fiddle] at once. ;) If ever it becomes a problem,

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, András Murányi wrote: Annoying for me, even if i'm interested in the software. But that's just me. For those who find it useful, this could be developed into something that can really be started up when pd starts - sounds like a plugin? :op One way is to rewrite it as a plu

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread András Murányi
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Hi, > What do people think of the little "Tip of the Day" windows that > are in some software? Are they helpful? Annoying? > > Either way, I made one in Pd. > > Seems like this could be useful to beginners. And at the moment > they'r

[PD] msd puredyne

2010-12-06 Thread J bz
Hi all, Before I add a bug report can I ask if anyone using puredyne can confirm whether the msd library and/or the msd-editor is working for them? Both are packaged with puredyne but I'm having no joy with them at all( apart from the [msd] object itself, so no 2d, 3d etc. Very best wishes, Jul

Re: [PD] Video Mapping or Morph GEM?

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Dear list, working with my students came up with the questions about an object that can modify a map or projection, that is, adjust the projection points to a particular object, If you are thinking about 2-D, then [#store] might be your friend.

Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote: to GridFlow's packet-oriented nature (packets more like TCP/IP, not like PDP, but still based on function->calls) Yep, that's a consideration that will ultimately yield in a lot of dead times if its parallel. I can try to talk to some openMP heads and fi

[PD] Video Mapping or Morph GEM?

2010-12-06 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Dear list, working with my students came up with the questions about an object that can modify a map or projection, that is, adjust the projection points to a particular object, such a projection map to a bottle or car for example. Maybe Gem? Maybe Pidip? Best regards José -- http://arselectron

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On 6 Dec 2010, at 07:56, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Hi, > What do people think of the little "Tip of the Day" windows that > are in some software? Are they helpful? Annoying? Mostly annoying, except in software I don't know yet :) I especially like ones that mix the usual newbie tips with

Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Pedro Lopes
>to GridFlow's packet-oriented nature (packets more like TCP/IP, not like PDP, but still based on function->calls) Yep, that's a consideration that will ultimately yield in a lot of dead times if its parallel. I can try to talk to some openMP heads and figure out if that's out of the equation or no

Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote: Yep, the idea behind openMP is related to what you normally call directives or pragmas[1]. OpenMP offers a set of such directives so you can choose ways to parallelize *chunks* of your code accordingly to the best option you want. List of pragmas here [2]

Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Pedro Lopes
Yep, the idea behind openMP is related to what you normally call directives or pragmas[1]. OpenMP offers a set of such directives so you can choose ways to parallelize *chunks* of your code accordingly to the best option you want. List of pragmas here [2]. The very basic example is a parallel for:

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-06 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> > 2) 0.43 will likely never merge some of the UI L2Ork improvements as > > they are for the lack of a better word a hack, a temporary fix if you > > like until something better comes around to replace aging Tcl/Tk. > > Why do you say Tcl/Tk is ? > What's the rationale for this ? Because its pe

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Martin Peach wrote: That's funny. I thought the whole 0.43 thing was about putting the tcl/tk into one place. It isn't doing that at all. All the sys_vgui calls are still there. There is no such thing in 0.43. The way it's been talked about, though, it was misleading to pe

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 2) 0.43 will likely never merge some of the UI L2Ork improvements as they are for the lack of a better word a hack, a temporary fix if you like until something better comes around to replace aging Tcl/Tk. Why do you say Tcl/Tk is «aging» ? What's the

Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: NB: while it does use more than one core, I just compared with the single core version of gridflow without openmp and it uses only 25% of my cpu (on one core) while the openmp version uses 145% of my cpu (spread over two cores). So, it's no magi

Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, i...@vt.edu wrote: Ah. I know that there are bugs in [#fft], but I don't know that one. Does that also happen to you in pd-extended, or not ? Not sure. Haven't tried. Well, I don't ask to say that you should do it, I ask because that's the information we'd need if we wer

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Pagano, Patrick wrote: illegal where? Globally? Anywhere it is that licenses written by non-lawyers mean anything. Which means, pretty much everywhere copyright laws may apply today. What of fair use? Fair use traditionally overrides *any* license, thus if you know yo

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Pagano, Patrick
illegal where? Globally? What of fair use? From: Mathieu Bouchard [ma...@artengine.ca] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:59 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner; ydego...@gmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unau

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. But this can't app

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Andy Farnell
Ouch, my eyes! http://www.352media.com/rantingandraving/CMFiles/Images/CapsLock.jpg Shouting in caps lock doen't make it LEGAL!!!11! or something :) On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:42:03 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, John Harrison wrote: > > > I was curious, since EffecT

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Pagano, Patrick wrote: So what does this really mean? We have to go back to building pidip from source if we want to use it? has it changed that much from when it was released? I am just starting to get students interested in learning these objects and would like to continu

Re: [PD] pd in ubuntu 8.04: pd hijacks alsa?

2010-12-06 Thread Pedro Lopes
Yep, when a software demands alsa (like pd does) it gets stuck. Jack is the way to go, but it actually works the same way, 'cause once jack gets a hold of alsa, everything else that is not communcating to jack and is demanding alsa will also be stuck. The trick is making/using programs that can tal

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I think that's the case, its been discussed before: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-ot/2006-01/001371.html But legally, the way that it goes, is that licenses have to be explicitly produced by the respective copyright holders, so

Re: [PD] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Pedro Lopes
Thanks for the complete answer. >o, it's no magic bullet... true. It is not. But when applied/tested into some specific situations it can truly help, my "external wanting openMP" does maxtrix work as hell, it could definitely need some multi-core help and split the matrix work over various core-lo

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, John Harrison wrote: I was curious, since EffecTV is GPL and a significant part of PiDiP is a port of EffecTV --- does this make an impact on what licenses are valid for PiDiP? Relicensing of EffecTV code from GPL to Degoyon license is ILLEGAL, and linking of EffecTV code

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Pagano, Patrick
So what does this really mean? We have to go back to building pidip from source if we want to use it? has it changed that much from when it was released? I am just starting to get students interested in learning these objects and would like to continue Why is there this animosity?

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hi list... a big issue, however ... PiDiP remain in extended pd libraries? I don't know, ... five years ago, I was being flamed by Degoyon out of nowhere (as usual), and so, I got curious about which license he used for his software, because I

[PD] Pyode external

2010-12-06 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi Frank, I've been looking for the pyode external you showed in Montreal, and can't find it. Do you think you could post a tarball? Ed Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata ___

Re: [PD] big soundfiles

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, tim vets wrote: "If you have to play a very large file in RAM, you can do it by emptying your signal-rate counter into a message-rate counter that takes care of the big digits while the signal-rate counter keeps on taking care of the small digits and fractions. (do you wan

Re: [PD] big soundfiles

2010-12-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: Yes please! Ah, forgot this one. Here it is (attachment). ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC#N canvas 663 73 450 374 10; #X obj 214 95 soundf

Re: [PD] Pd+pachube+python

2010-12-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Fernando I wasn't able to successfully run your python script, because I have no access to the URL you posted: urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized However, the description of the problem you have did ring a bell. I remember that once someone had a similar problem. OSC allows to tra

Re: [PD] OpenMP and Pd

2010-12-06 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Hi Pedro, Somehow I thought this was a new message, but the date tells me it's from quite some time ago. Replying anyway as it may be interesting to you and all: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote something roughly along the lines of: > I was trying to include pragma commen

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > From: Lorenzo Sutton > Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day > To: > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 10:42 AM > Original Message > Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day > From: Jonathan Wilkes > To:

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Original Message Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day From: Jonathan Wilkes To: pd-list@iem.at, Lorenzo Sutton Date: 06/12/10 10:26 --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: From: Lorenzo Sutton Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, December 6, 201

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > From: Lorenzo Sutton > Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 9:28 AM > Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > Hi, > >       What do people think of > the little "Tip of the Day" windows that > > are in some soft

Re: [PD] problem loading externals??

2010-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-05 01:31, Richie Cyngler wrote: > It does look like that but mine's intel and that's the one I DLed. that's what you think you DLed, which might not necessarily be true. it could also be that you are running a 64bit system, and the gf image is 32bit only (which are different architectur

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi, What do people think of the little "Tip of the Day" windows that are in some software? Are they helpful? Annoying? My two cents. I think they are pretty useless and annoying, as randomly suggesting something doesn't add any help to the total beginner ("did you

Re: [PD] pd in ubuntu 8.04: pd hijacks alsa?

2010-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-05 22:34, Aaron L. wrote: > This is somewhat of a complete newb issue so I apologize up front for > that... > > However, it seems that I cannot use pdextended and watch a youtube video at > the same time (the youtube vid is a pd tutorial). > > Here's what it's starting with: > >

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Richie Cyngler
Cute and has a very "proprietary" feel like "Pdad" standing behind me with a reassuring hand on my shoulder. Great tips. Love it. -- shiny Rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo

[PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, What do people think of the little "Tip of the Day" windows that are in some software? Are they helpful? Annoying? Either way, I made one in Pd. Seems like this could be useful to beginners. And at the moment they're no longer useful one can just turn them off. (Or they could be tu