[PD] Android latency tester

2011-10-23 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi all, In an effort to discover which Android devices are going to be best to run Pd on, here is an app and a page you can help contribute to. Please test your Android device and submit the outcome! :) http://puredata.info/AndroidLatency Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.c

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:47 PM, i go bananas wrote: What is the pain? -Jonathan Hi Jonathan, if you want to use pd in a commercial application, and particularly if you want to use it as the basis for an iphone application, then you cannot include anything that is licensed under the GPL l

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread i go bananas
"jMax is distributed under GNU’s Lesser General Public License" http://jmax.sourceforge.net/ is that the LGPL that mattieu is talking about? in that case, it might be as simple as a nice email to Shadrokh Yadegari to get his expr for pd license changed to LGPL too?? i agree with hans that app

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread i go bananas
ok, so i checked out the http link that's listed at the top of expr help in pd. http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~yadegari/expr.html and it says, "Based on original sources from IRCAM's jMax Released under GNU's General Public License." so, if it is based on jMax code, does

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread i go bananas
> > What is the pain? > > -Jonathan > > > Hi Jonathan, if you want to use pd in a commercial application, and particularly if you want to use it as the basis for an iphone application, then you cannot include anything that is licensed under the GPL license. In vanilla PD, this means that you have

Re: [PD] editing pd silence - dither

2011-10-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 04:04:58PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > I understand all of that already, but my impression is that it's more > like making a 24-bit gradient use dithering so that it looks more like a > 48-bit gradient. Would it make a perceptual improvement if you did so ? No, of co

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> >From: i go bananas >To: PD List >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:27 PM >Subject: [PD] expr alternative > > >how hard would it be to rewrite the expr code so that it doesn't need to be >GPL licensed? > >or has anyone ever tried contacting the original authors a

Re: [PD] editing pd silence - dither

2011-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-23 à 11:36:00, Marvin Humphrey a écrit : In that image, the "24-bit gradient" would be analogous to the full width audio signal prior to bit depth reduction, the "8 bit gradient, dithered" would be analogous to dithered audio, and the "8 bit gradient" displaying obvious color bandin

Re: [PD] editing pd silence

2011-10-23 Thread martin brinkmann
On 10/23/2011 08:20 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > How much is a lot ? What's the amplitude in the noise ? If it's > something like 1/65536 of the maximum level, that's not what I'd call > « a lot »... it is more. after normalizing i had about 8 different sample values (including zero) in the file

Re: [PD] editing pd silence - dither

2011-10-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 02:20:38PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Personally, I don't understand what's the point of dither in audio. Maybe > it's just an evil plot to make CD quality sound like 8-track cartridges. Without dither, truncation error becomes truncation distortion. It is correlate

Re: [PD] editing pd silence

2011-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-22 à 15:29:00, martin brinkmann a écrit : On 10/22/2011 02:39 PM, saskia diez wrote: I just discover this since i bought a nice speakers, before i havent realize that sound editors add that hiss. i could hardly believe that, but you are right! i have just created a file with writesf

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-23 à 13:54:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I think the Apple App Store conflicts with all GNU/FSF licenses. Then think again ! __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2011-10-24 à 02:27:00, i go bananas a écrit : how hard would it be to rewrite the expr code so that it doesn't need to be GPL licensed? The only other implementation of [expr] is [#expr], but that's GPL too. But it shows that an imp

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-24 à 02:27:00, i go bananas a écrit : how hard would it be to rewrite the expr code so that it doesn't need to be GPL licensed? The only other implementation of [expr] is [#expr], but that's GPL too. But it shows that an implementation of [expr] doesn't have to be long and complic

[PD] expr alternative

2011-10-23 Thread i go bananas
how hard would it be to rewrite the expr code so that it doesn't need to be GPL licensed? or has anyone ever tried contacting the original authors and asking them to change the license so it can fit in with pd's standard BSD ?? sorry if i'm being naive. just wondering. seems a bit of a pain tha

Re: [PD] libpd and objective c

2011-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-21 à 14:35:00, ronni montoya a écrit : Hi , do anybody have any experience using libpd for iphone using objective c? Yes. It's easy to add libpd to your project in XCode. However, I decided not to use libpd's own interface to Objective-C, most of which is just a détour if you comp