Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
It's quite clear as I read a while ago: http://multinc.com/2009/08/24/compatibility-between-the-iphone-app-store-and-the-lgpl/ > If you’re developing an iPhone application that you intend to submit to > Apple’s App Store and you want to make use of a third-party’s software > library that happen

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread i go bananas
thing is, we STILL don't know for sure if apple will accept LGPL. they have not said yes or no on that issue. If someone else wants to try contacting them, maybe something has changed since last year...? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and a

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread i go bananas
just to clarify, Shahrokh Yadegari, IRCAM, and the JMax developers, ALL agreed with the switch to LGPL license. so AFAIK, the 'GPL' claim in the source code is still there simply because no-one has changed it. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Well, it seems like all the a

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
Ok. I'll make a patch for it if no one else does ... maybe in a few days. On Oct 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, i go bananas wrote: > just to clarify, > > Shahrokh Yadegari, IRCAM, and the JMax developers, ALL agreed with the switch > to LGPL license. > > so AFAIK, the 'GPL' claim in the source code i

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
Well, it seems like all the authors agree and there's already an LGPL license. I only brought up all of this due to the inconsistency between whats actually there in the source files. I'd love for that to just be changed and we all move on. It's not like this is a huge patent / money maker thing

[PD] reading tables indices with liner interpoation

2013-10-04 Thread peiman khosravi
I'm trying to figure out if there is an object to read table indices with linear interpolation? Other than linear_path (Gem). Or perhaps there is a simpler way of doing it? Many Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed || Concert News

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd Chocolate - GUI

2013-10-04 Thread Pierre Guillot
Hi, I’m actually working on a project that aims to facilitate the creation of GUI externals in Pd and to easily convert source code from Max to Pd and from Pd to Max. I’ve created a small C/C++ library (at the end, it will be a full C library) with: - An automatic generation of border and inlets/o

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/04/2013 03:50 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the copyright holders agreed to that license.

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I would be all for this, often what I do is patch old code I have found over the years in Pure Data and MANY time expr~ is used for something essential so it seems That's not to say ALL of them but a lot of them do. I think a converter would be ideal if it could exist inside of vanilla! pp ---

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I need expr~ for my apps -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Jonathan Wilkes Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:34 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps On 10/04/2013 01:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > O

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Miller Puckette
> > My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's > expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under > which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the > copyright holders agreed to that license. > > If the consensus was that it shou

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/04/2013 01:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: One (not so minor) note on this... "expr" is copyright IRCAM (hahrokh Yadegari was working for IRCAM at the time) and is also included in Max, so it might be sbject to agreements between IRCAM and Cycling '74. I was under the impression it was under

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Simon Wise
On 05/10/13 01:47, Dan Wilcox wrote: Actually no. This is a common misconception. The GPL does *not* forbid selling GPL software! The requirement is that you have to publish *all source* and especially modifications you make. It also very explicitly allows using it yourself in any way, modifi

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
Actually no. This is a common misconception. The GPL does *not* forbid selling GPL software! The requirement is that you have to publish *all source* and especially modifications you make. On Oct 5, 2013, at 12:33 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > From: "Pagano, Patrick" > Subject: Re: [PD]

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Miller Puckette
One (not so minor) note on this... "expr" is copyright IRCAM (hahrokh Yadegari was working for IRCAM at the time) and is also included in Max, so it might be sbject to agreements between IRCAM and Cycling '74. I was under the impression it was under GPL, not LGPL. I just looked and saw that, ind

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread i go bananas
I am the one who originally pushed for expr license change, and contacted apple, and the original expr licensees, etc here's what happened, in summary, from my foggy memory: i contacted the original author of expr, Mr Yadegari, and explained the situation that expr was in a strange limbo betw

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 10/03/13 02:35, Dan Wilcox wrote: > - I leave out [expr] & [expr~] for now. The license in the expr src folder is > LGPL, > but the license in the source headers is GPL and the following is printed to > console > when first loading the external: "expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU Gene

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 10/03/13 19:37, Pagano, Patrick wrote: > There was quite a lot of discussion on the supercollider list about this too. > Everyone is quick to share that you can't sell it. why shouldn't you be able to *sell* it. i don't see any reason for not being able to sell an app that made it into the ap

Re: [PD] puredata.info partially down ?

2013-10-04 Thread Py Fave
yes! 2013/10/4 IOhannes m zmölnig : > On 10/03/13 18:07, Py Fave wrote: >> http://puredata.info/docs gives >> >> and members pages too >> > > yes, the server went down. > > unfortunately it also took the mailinglist with it... > > if you can read this message, it's up and running again. > > fgmads

Re: [PD] autobuild wrong architecture

2013-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 10/04/13 18:01, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: > I get this on a dual P4 running debian squeeze: > $ sudo dpkg -i Pd-0.44.0-extended-20131003-debian-squeeze-i386.deb > dpkg: error processing Pd-0.44.0-extended-20131003-debian-squeeze-i386.deb > (--install): > package architecture (amd64) doe

Re: [PD] Invalid autobuild download

2013-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 10/03/13 19:38, Antoine Villeret wrote: > hi, > > since this afternoon I can only download invalid archive from > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ or from > http://apt.puredata.info/auto-build > > all downloaded files have a 0 byte size. > I tried under 3 OS with 2 different internet

Re: [PD] [biquad~] as cyclone's [allpass~]?

2013-10-04 Thread Chris Clepper
You only need one delay line for the allpass. feedforward = input * -gain feedback = delayout * gain delayin = input + feedback output = delayout + feedforward http://www.spinsemi.com/knowledge_base/effects.html#Reverberation On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > i

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Pagano, Patrick
There was quite a lot of discussion on the supercollider list about this too. Everyone is quick to share that you can't sell it. I don't want to sell anything I want to use the programs for my own use on a tablet, plain and simple. How did RJDJ do it? I'm curious. Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A As

Re: [PD] LED on the Cheap

2013-10-04 Thread Alex
We are also looking these for a future project: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC12V-input-12mm-WS2811-pixel-node-100pcs-a-string-IP68-rated/735790044.html On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Alex wrote: > I helped build this wall: http://blog.x37v.info/2012/10/10/led-wall > Controlled with video.

[PD] Invalid autobuild download

2013-10-04 Thread Antoine Villeret
hi, since this afternoon I can only download invalid archive from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ or from http://apt.puredata.info/auto-build all downloaded files have a 0 byte size. I tried under 3 OS with 2 different internet connections. is the server under maintenance ? a -- do

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-04 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Which means no they will torture you and never approve your app Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:09 AM, "i go bananas" mailto:hard@gmail.com>> wrote: i spent quite a long time being

[PD] libdir template Mac OSX build

2013-10-04 Thread Antoine Villeret
hello, 2 things in one thread : 1. I've made an external started with the template from up-to-date SVN and I realised that this template makes .pd_linux instead of .l_i386 or .l_ia64 so I switched to another one doing that (the one from pix_opencv, which Hans updated from template if I remember

Re: [PD] puredata.info partially down ?

2013-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 10/03/13 18:07, Py Fave wrote: > http://puredata.info/docs gives > > and members pages too > yes, the server went down. unfortunately it also took the mailinglist with it... if you can read this message, it's up and running again. fgmads IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digi

[PD] autobuild wrong architecture

2013-10-04 Thread martin.peach
I get this on a dual P4 running debian squeeze: $ sudo dpkg -i Pd-0.44.0-extended-20131003-debian-squeeze-i386.deb dpkg: error processing Pd-0.44.0-extended-20131003-debian-squeeze-i386.deb (--install): package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) Errors were encountered while proces

[PD] puredata.info partially down ?

2013-10-04 Thread Py Fave
http://puredata.info/docs gives and members pages too ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] [PD-announce] PD piece at Long Beach, CA Soundwalk this Saturday

2013-10-04 Thread Joe Newlin
If anyone is in Southern California, the 10th annual (and possibly final) Soundwalk sound art exhibition in Long Beach will be this Saturday from 6:00-10:00 pm. My piece for this year's event, titled Solipse, was created entirely with PD and is described thusly: "The listener hears a unique sound

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 released

2013-10-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, Pd version 0.45-3 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data cd pure-data git checkout -b 0.45 This fixes text pasting from other apps to Pd and an audio problem (Mac native audio devices