Re: [PD] BUG found in last release

2009-01-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, works fine on linux - I'll get into my windoze machine tomorrow to try that. thanks Miller On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:30:35AM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: 1? open a patch 2? modify something 3? quit PureData 4? Click No 5? Try to

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Perhaps it would be easier if there were a select none (ctrl-shift-A) accelerator. I almost put that in but am waiting to make sure I can't think of a more urgently-needed binding for that key combination. cheers Miller On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:32:54PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo,

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-03 Thread Miller Puckette
except what if you move the mouse and then decide you want to make a connection to a new object? We'd need a way to return to the earlier state. shift-numerals might be a problem because in many places the numerals already require the shift key. cheers Miller On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-02 Thread Miller Puckette
A partial answer - in 0.42 (available in a test version), control-1, etc, which create new objects, will automatically connect from the currently selected object if there is one. (It does nothing with multiple selections though...) I hope RSN to add keyboard accelerators for moving the selection

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-02 Thread Miller Puckette
for a long time... It's very unintuitive I think. Hans r At 18:23 2/01/2009, you wrote: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: A partial answer - in 0.42 (available in a test version), control-1, etc, which create new objects, will automatically connect from

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-0 released

2009-01-02 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, Pd 0.42-0 (source and binaries) is available from the usual: http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html ... and the source is also uploaded to sourceforge: svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/pd/ cheers Miller

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-02 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, my memory is worse than I thought :) M On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 04:01:54PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Miller Puckette wrote: I hope RSN to add keyboard accelerators for moving the selection around, as was already done years ago by Mathieu Bouchard (written up

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.42-0 test 08 released

2008-12-30 Thread Miller Puckette
I agree -- I don't know how to get Tk and Gnome to work together. Another thing is that you can't de-miniaturize windows programmatically as far as I can tell - it's against the Gnome religion to give the program control over that, apparently. Any suggestions how to deal with either of these

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.42-0 test 08 released

2008-12-30 Thread Miller Puckette
Oops, just found the -parent option to tk_messagebox, so I think I'll be able to do the parenting correctly. Still not sure how to de-miniaturize things though. M On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:03:46PM -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: I agree -- I don't know how to get Tk and Gnome to work together

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.42-0 test 08 released

2008-12-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, Pd 0.42-0 test 08 is out on the usual http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and on subversion in SourceForge. I'm hoping to finalize it next weekend - bug reports welcome. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at

Re: [PD] API for manipulating a patch in real time

2008-12-10 Thread Miller Puckette
I can imagine simply writing an example program to do this (putting some boilerplate first and then a rewritable main at the end). It would look more like this: /* don't touch me */ /* but replace the following with your code */ main() { pd_startthread(arg1 arg2...); /* do

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-0 test 6 available

2008-12-10 Thread Miller Puckette
loaded the .so. .hc On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, this will take me some time to fix correctly - it looks like there's no way for an extern to find the pd executable itself. d'oh... Miller On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:21:30PM +0100, cyrille henry wrote

Re: [PD] so when does pd get rounded corners?

2008-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd uses whatever Tcl/TK is installed on the machine on OSX or linux, but comes with its own version on Windows. I'm trying to maintain several years' back compatibilty - right now it wirks back to 8.3 (except the help panel). cheers Miller On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 10:23:01AM -0500,

Re: [PD] so when does pd get rounded corners?

2008-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette
... but anti-aliased fonts are a serious problem - I hope they don't become obligatory. They really aren't as sharp as the bitmap ones. Another case of computer science orthodoxy trumping common sense :) cheers Miller On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:56:48PM +0100, Damian Stewart wrote:

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-0 test 6 available

2008-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette
/usr/local/bin/pd /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd, pd~ help file is working great Cyrille cheers Cyrille Miller Puckette a ?crit : Pd 0.42-0 test 06 is out: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm ... also checked into svn: svn checkout https://pure

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-0 test 6 available

2008-12-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd 0.42-0 test 06 is out: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm ... also checked into svn: svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/pd/ Main new stuff is work on extras - stabler pitch output for sigmund~, more progress on pd~. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] question regarding a compile warning

2008-12-08 Thread Miller Puckette
I think it works just to delete it altogether... I don't know what it was ever supposed to do in the first place :) Miller On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Hi all, I have been encountering now regularly following warning during compile time of various

Re: [PD] how to optimize system for pd performance?

2008-12-07 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, this clears up an old mystery for me - thanks for starting this thread! Another way to grab CPU power is to run pd -nosleep which causes it to spin instead of sleeping when it goes idle. On my system at least, I see the CPU immediately go to full speed. (But only do this on a system with

Re: [PD] getting a messsage at end of [phasor~]

2008-12-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Marko, There's almost certainly no direct way to do this in Pd vanilla, although someone may have written an extern to do this. My approach would be to use a metro to generate the messages, and vline~ to generate the phasor from them. Of course this doesn't work if you have to sync to a

Re: [PD] rzero or rpole first?

2008-11-17 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, version control trouble again... the figures are indeed configured differently from the patches. I looked around and say that the patch, H11.shelving.pd, dates to August 2005 and I changed the figure between versions 08 and 09 of the book, sometime in mid 2006. So I was revising my

Re: [PD] Understanding Oversampling

2008-11-11 Thread Miller Puckette
I looked, and it's very confusing, sorry. There's an error, too :) The filters are incorrectly set to 7500 Hz. The main patch is assumed to be 44100 Hz. so the subpatch runs at 16x44100. So the cutoff in radians per sample is beta = 2*pi*7500/(16*44100) = 0.017518. The rest is as in chapter 8

Re: [PD] Understanding Oversampling

2008-11-11 Thread Miller Puckette
There's an error, too :) The filters are incorrectly set to 7500 Hz. Instead, we would want them set to 15kHz as the comment says? well, I tried it both ways, and I think it's a tradeoff. I updated the patch (grab a new one from http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/tmp/) for details. cheers

Re: [PD] Understanding Oversampling

2008-11-11 Thread Miller Puckette
that it isn't a function of the other parameters. On Nov 11, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: There's an error, too :) The filters are incorrectly set to 7500 Hz. Instead, we would want them set to 15kHz as the comment says? well, I tried it both ways, and I think it's a tradeoff

Re: [PD] problems with Delta 1010LT?

2008-11-09 Thread Miller Puckette
Wierd. I have out-of-the-box Fedora 9 running (it's a terrible Fedora release, by hte way, I'm going to switch to 10 when it comes out later this month) and my delta1010LT runs fine. So if it's an ALSA bug it must have been fixed meanwhile. BTW, there are 4 jumpers on the 1010LT card; if they

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, what I want to be able to do is put max-compatible objects into Pd vanilla (such as gate and scale) without breaking libraries. However, I didn't realize there were libraries out there that named things the same as Pd built-ins, with the intention of not ever getting instantiated under the

Re: [PD] Los Angeles patching circle?

2008-11-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Dunno about others, but I'd be up for running up to LA once in a while to meet Pd users. cheers Miller On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 09:33:45AM -0800, Joe Newlin wrote: Inspired by the recent NYC effort, I thought I'd reach out to patchers in the L.A. area. I know there are swarms of Max/MSP

Re: [PD] Hunting denormals?

2008-11-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, Looking into this once again (I've had this problem for 10 years or more now) I just found out that gcc has a -ffast-math flag that prevents denormals for slowing the code down, as long as the CPU has SSE instructions. I don't know if the geode does or not, though! On linux, at any

Re: [PD] Hunting denormals?

2008-11-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep, I remember trying the MXCSR thing once and it not working, but I forget what processor it was on. If indeed it's equivalent to using this gcc flag, I'm happier usin the compiler flag because it keeps the code cleaner. OTOH, it sounds like non-SSE processors will always need code to check

Re: [PD] Scope of [block~] and [switch~]

2008-10-20 Thread Miller Puckette
One small warning - the output of samplerate~ is confusing if there is overlap - samplerate~ output goes up by the overlap factor, which is arguably incorrect. It needs replacing by a more comprehensive solution. Also the default upsampling algorithm is incorrect - if you upsaple by 2, for

Re: [PD] readsf~ using up file handles

2008-10-09 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi, I can't get this to happen... can you send the offending patch? thanks M On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 07:36:08PM +0200, Damian Stewart wrote: hey, on OSX, if i accidentally trigger an infinite loop situation with a readsf~, it eats up all Pd's filehandles; then when i try to save another

Re: [PD] recirculating delay line reverberation time calculation

2008-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette
hi all, I don't think anyone knows the answer to this. Traditionally, ever since Schroeder's reverberator, I think people have used delay times within a ratio of 1.5:1 of each other so that any old mean works OK. cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:07:30PM +0100, Claude Heiland-Allen

Re: [PD] pasted objects now end up under the original object

2008-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette
So, maybe, one should only paste to where the cursor is when the copy and paste are in the same window? hmm... M On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 10:50:28AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, Copy-Paste needs work. It

Re: [PD] pasted objects now end up under the original object

2008-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette
, 2008 at 11:53:33AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: So, maybe, one should only paste to where the cursor is when the copy and paste are in the same window? But copy and paste in the same window is the same as Ctl-D, isn't

Re: [PD] pasted objects now end up under the original object

2008-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Another possibility would be to use command-shift-paste to paste and immediately go into the stick state. I think I might have to try a few different ways to see which is most natural. M On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 01:09:49PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt

Re: [PD] Pd-0.41-4 can't extract

2008-07-29 Thread Miller Puckette
That's wierd... the only situation I can think of that could cause that would be a full disk. cheers Miller On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 05:42:07AM -0400, Enrique Erne wrote: pd-0.41-4.mac.tar.gz from http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html i get Could not extract the file

Re: [PD] Pd-0.41-4 can't extract

2008-07-29 Thread Miller Puckette
10.5.4 except me? still got 22GB left.. i just downloaded it again with a different browser. is there a md5 thingy around? eni Miller Puckette wrote: That's wierd... the only situation I can think of that could cause that would be a full disk. cheers Miller On Tue, Jul 29

Re: [PD] Delete scalars

2008-07-10 Thread Miller Puckette
. cheers Miller On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:04:29AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Miller Puckette wrote: I'm thinking about making a message to pointer that deletes the object after the pointed-to one (thus leaving the pointer itself unchanged) -- the gotch is that it would

Re: [PD] bug in gop data-structs?

2008-06-20 Thread Miller Puckette
yep, I'm getting this too. I'll try to figure that one out. cheers Miller On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:16:40AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Rich E hat gesagt: // Rich E wrote: I'm just checking to see if this is in fact a bug, or I am doing something wrong with GOP data structs.

Re: [PD] bug in gop data-structs?

2008-06-19 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep, way buggy. I seem to have changed the way the bugs manifest in my latest source, but I still don't have it working right... stay tuned :) M On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:16:40AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Rich E hat gesagt: // Rich E wrote: I'm just checking to see if this is

Re: [PD] Delete scalars

2008-06-14 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm thinking about making a message to pointer that deletes the object after the pointed-to one (thus leaving the pointer itself unchanged) -- the gotch is that it would stalify all other pointers to the list, at least as things are currently implemented. As far as I know, there's no way at

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-11 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm interested in this too... I'm deep inside something else right now but will check this out when I can. cheers M On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:23:11PM +0200, cyrille henry wrote: ok, if you don't wish to compile in order to test, here are 2 samples : http://www.chdh.free.fr/tab/tabosc4.wav

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-10 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe lagrange interpolation just means polynomail. tabread4~ uses cubic interpolation... details are in http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node31.html It may be that there's a better way to do 4-point interpoation than Lagrange but the way to find out would be by doing

Re: [PD] pdrp

2008-06-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, maybe I need to upload a new PDRP version. I think all the patches I have now use declare correctly, at least on my machine :) cheers Miller On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:08:10PM -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi, seems this project has not attracted much attention in the past.

Re: [PD] Getting Sysex output to work on Linux

2008-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm still curious why the raw MIDI doesn't work for you. I need to find someone with a similar USB MIDI device to try to figure this out. I did recently find out that the raw interface has a bug that prevents it from opening /dev/midi for reading only and for writing only; the only operation

Re: [PD] Getting Sysex output to work on Linux

2008-05-25 Thread Miller Puckette
Is it out of the question simply to use the OSS MIDI API? That should be the default, and it's much less buggy than the ALSA one. (Apparently, though, there's sometimes a good reason to use teh ALSA one instead, I remember vaguely.) To put out sysex MIDI, theoretically in either ALSA or OSS,

Re: [PD] gop array in abstraction appears outside abstraction boundaries

2008-05-21 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... I think I have this fixed (to appear once tested on macwindows). A belated thanks for flagging this. Miller On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 05:05:58PM +0100, tim wrote: Hello, I was able to reproduce this on Pd 0.41-0 : pd_goptest1 the abstraction testt.pd contains an array, which appears in

Re: [PD] Send startup flag on osx

2008-05-21 Thread Miller Puckette
I think this is because on the Mac when you click-open a patch the OS doesn't tell Pd about the patch until after Pd is running (so the send was already tried.) A workaround would be to put the patch as well in the Pd command line. I don't know how to fix this in general. cheers Miller On Mon,

Re: [PD] inlet and inlet~

2008-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
No... I hope to figure out a good way to permit that. Meanwhile, there's also a bug in that inlet~ doesn't take numbers correctly (doesn't promote them to signals) cheers Miller On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 10:07:04AM -0400, Matt Barber wrote: Hello, Is there a way to make an abstraction that

Re: [PD] tutorial on struct/template usage?

2008-04-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, I see it in 0.40 and 0.41... but Debian might have stuck it somewhere wierd. Maybe try find / -name 4.data.structures ... cheers M On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:34:21PM +0200, Nicola Bernardini wrote: Dear all, thanks for all your replies - and sorry for not having thank you before: for

Re: [PD] tutorial on struct/template usage?

2008-04-25 Thread Miller Puckette
They're obscure by design (I'm trying to think of a more straightforward design but can't). Meanwhile, did you find the 4.data.structures tutorial in the Pd distribution? cheers Miller On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:40:09AM +0200, Nicola Bernardini wrote: Dear all, is it me, or the part on

Re: [PD] Cyclone in vanilla?

2008-04-25 Thread Miller Puckette
OMG, is it really true that pow and pow~ are reversed from each other in Max (and hence cyclone)!? That's genuinely strange - and if it's true, I'd definitely make pow~ act as the present pow (left inlet raiesed to right inlet as a power) and just print out a warning for a year or two. cheers M

Re: [PD] I'm stuck in a corner, please help! RE: [delta~] object was: Re: Cyclone in vanilla?

2008-04-25 Thread Miller Puckette
: IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote: Enrique Erne wrote: or [biquad~ 0 0 0 1] Miller Puckette wrote: I believe z~ is just rzero~ 0. no. both of them are equivalent to [z~ 1] you could also argue that [f] is just the same as [0( :-) oups, yes ofcorse z~ 1. the output of 1

Re: [PD] Cyclone in vanilla?

2008-04-24 Thread Miller Puckette
This is a serious problem -- putting a backwards pow~ into Pd might be worse than having none at all. But writing a book that uses pow backwards would be even worse than having one in Pd! Maybe the right thing would be to use another name such as power~. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:16:08PM

Re: [PD] Cyclone in vanilla?

2008-04-23 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe z~ is just rzero~ 0. cheers Miller On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: Actually, for those of us who insist on vanilla and do everything with expr/expr~/fexpr~ or abstractions, is it possible to

Re: [PD] Cyclone in vanilla?

2008-04-23 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I think I tried putting cyclone in Pd a couple of years ago and got hung up over some problem or other. I'll look at it and see if I can just do it... cheers M On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 02:26:42PM +0800, Chris McCormick wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:38:25AM +0200, Frank Barknecht

Re: [PD] nosleep option

2008-04-23 Thread Miller Puckette
-nosleep is experimental... I've had severe trouble getting low latencies on dual processor machines; one workaround is to have Pd never sleep so it occupies one entire CPU. It's rude to the rest of the machine though :) M On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:38:45AM +0100, gilberto bernardes wrote:

Re: [PD] dialogue box for quit message

2008-04-22 Thread Miller Puckette
It's: ; pd verifyquit cheers Miller On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:25:47PM +0100, gilberto bernardes wrote: Dear PD users First my excuses for the silly question, but is quite important for me. Can someone tell me if there is a way to quit PD through a message like (; pd quit) with a

Re: [PD] prev for Data Structures?

2008-04-14 Thread Miller Puckette
Horribly unfeasible -- the data are stored as a singly linked list. Going back would require searching forward from the beginning. cheers Miller On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:36:13AM -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Hi all, How feasible would a prev message to [pointer] be (naturally, this would

Re: [PD] prev for Data Structures?

2008-04-14 Thread Miller Puckette
, Miller Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horribly unfeasible -- the data are stored as a singly linked list. Going back would require searching forward from the beginning. cheers Miller I thought as much, thanks for the answer. Would built-in search methods be any faster than what I

Re: [PD] dsp... messages into inlets (!!!)

2008-04-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Oops! I'm using dsp for objects to intercommunicate, but I had meant to protect anyone from stumbling on it. Obviously I missed something. I can suggest many possible workarounds, but will get around to fixing this someday. cheers Miller On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:05:37PM +0200, matteo sisti

Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog

2008-03-30 Thread Miller Puckette
This would be a Good Thing ... I wasn't of the impression it would be easy to do though. I've been assuming that would necessitate writing, and then having to maintain, a whole new open dialog widget. If there's a smarter way to do it I'd love to know about it. cheers Miller On Sun, Mar 30,

Re: [PD] built-in text editor WAS: Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas

2008-03-21 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, there's text-editor code in Krzysztof Chaya's library, that I've wanted to glom into the vanilla Pd source for some time now (exactly so that people can pop up text editor windows for any 'binbuf' contents). Only thing holding me back is two minor issues: 1. I can't decide whether it's

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.41-4 (bug fix) release

2008-03-17 Thread Miller Puckette
I fixed some more bugs... latest is 0.41-4 on the usual: The most serious recent bugs were causing occasional crashes starting and stopping DSP on huge patches, and some audio devices weren't showing up on the dialogs on windows machines. http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm cheers Miller

Re: [PD] bang~ =64 samples

2008-03-15 Thread Miller Puckette
You can do it combining bang~ with sub-64-sample message delays. cheers M On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:05:46PM -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi, is there an alternative for bang~ that will work with blocksizes smaller than 64 samples? or is there a chance to fix bang~? marius.

Re: [PD] bang~ =64 samples

2008-03-15 Thread Miller Puckette
for this kind of thing.) cheers M On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:45:05PM -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi miller, not exaclty sure what sub-64-sample message delays means? block~ 64 64? or 64 delays each 0.0226757369615 ms. will test this. marius. Miller Puckette wrote: You can do it combining

Re: [PD] Miller's PD-Guitar Workshop LAC 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I believe mine is a GK-2A as well. I built an unbalanced preamp and power supply, and didn't get any appreciable hum. (However, I do sometimes get ground loop trouble batween computers and audio systems and sometimes have to ground lift my computer and monitor, which is a bit

Re: [PD] pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()

2008-03-11 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I don't think it makes sense to have python's CWD follow that of the patch - what if there are two patches in different directories? It's probably better to make things explicit via canvas_getcurrentdir(). cheers Miller On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:42:33AM -0400, Peter Brinkmann wrote:

Re: [PD] Improved bug report: [expr] on Windows 2000 (XP non-professional)

2008-03-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I haven't been able to figure out how to make windows-style makefiles call each other, so I have a batch file, 'build' that I call from the source directory, to call the other makefiles in other directories. (Of course, I haven't even tried again since 1999 or so to figure this out and it's

Re: [PD] Improved bug report: [expr] on Windows 2000 (XP non-professional)

2008-03-04 Thread Miller Puckette
OK, re-download it and you should get expr OK, also all the others in pd/extra EXCEPT bonk~ which turns out not to compile on the version of VC I'm using (so will have to update the source and make a new version number for that one). Thanks for flagging that... my bad. M On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at

Re: [PD] Pd-0.41-2.msw.exe is missing [expr]

2008-03-03 Thread Miller Puckette
I better check this... usually, I specifically test 'expr' on windows before letting it out (since my build setup is prone to errors). Will try it next I can get to a windows machine. cheers MIller On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 11:33:07PM -0500, David F. Place wrote: It occurred to me that

Re: [PD] the behaviour of [list length] has changed!!

2008-02-20 Thread Miller Puckette
Even smarter might be to skip Pd-extended 0.40 and go straight from 0.39 to 0.41. cheers Miller On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 05:44:54PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: obviously it is incompatible. the reason to nevertheless do change it was, that [list length]

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-2 released

2008-02-16 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, three more bug fixes, including one I forgot to throw in the release notes: I figured out why cutting/pasting text into boxes didn't work on MACOS or Windows. The others: a crash bug on windows when restarting DSP repeatedly, and netsend/netreceive sometimes dropping data. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] writesf produces incorrect header (pd-0.41.0)

2008-02-15 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Ilya, As far as I can tell, Pd write little-endian .snd files OK but nobody else but Pd seems to support them any more. .wav files are little-endian and widely supported; perhaps that's a better option. cheers Miller On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 04:05:26AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i

Re: [PD] Comments on pd as a library to be used in game

2008-02-13 Thread Miller Puckette
though (like the vst guy), but still... Cheers! Pablo Miller Puckette escribi?: No -- there ought to be, but it never makes it to the top of the priority heap. M On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 01:30:11PM -0500, marius schebella wrote: that sounds promising! maybe still a little

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-1 (bug fix for Mac OSX 10.5.1)

2008-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, Pd 0.41-1 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html It's the same as 0.41-0 except for a bug fix for newer versions of Mac OSX (10.5 and newer) thanks to David Plans Casal. Miller ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PD] Comments on pd as a library to be used in game

2008-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
introductory explanation of how the various source codes components work together besides the source code and in code documentation itself? marius. Miller Puckette wrote: Pdvst, by Joe Sarlo, does something related (embeds Pd as a VST plug-in; windows only). It uses the Pd executable

Re: [PD] Comments on pd as a library to be used in game

2008-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Pdvst, by Joe Sarlo, does something related (embeds Pd as a VST plug-in; windows only). It uses the Pd executable, plugging in a user-supplied scheduler that manages audio and control I/O to the calling program. Since there might be several Pdvst plug-ins active at a time, each gets its own

Re: [PD] fixes in 0.41?

2008-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
That's largely true... but other times, bugs get introduced and/or fixed without my knowing they were even there. I find and fix memory management mistakes frequently (certainly at least a few times every major release cycle), often without knowing if they ever surface as crashes. So the

Re: [PD] good ol' font size test for 0.41

2008-02-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry for the slow followup. I'm of the belief that the font sizes for object, message, and comment boxes are the same in 0.41 as 0.40, would like to know if that's not true. I adopted all of HC's patches for the IEM GUIs, since fint size changes in those seem less of a problem. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?

2008-02-04 Thread Miller Puckette
My trick for getting updatedb turned off is to remove the 'slocate' package that it's a part of. Took me some time to figure that out. cheers Miller On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:34:32AM +0100, altern wrote: hi patrick I have a terratec phase X24 and the only problem I have is because of the

Re: [PD] one more boring computation-time cuestion of mine...

2008-01-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Just a guess... maybe allocating all that memory is forcing the OS to page other apps out. (I'm not sure how much memory is getting used but if it's more than 1/4 of the system total it's possible that is slowing stuff down.) cheers Miller On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 04:52:56PM +0100, matteo sisti

Re: [PD] vline~ question

2008-01-26 Thread Miller Puckette
I thought about it again today and I agree, there's no fundamental need to have it. On the other hand, if you happen to be using lots of vline~s for scheduling breakpoint envelopes, there might be a big efficiency gain having the vline~ object manage the timeouts itself. (The vline~ object would

Re: [PD] Basic question about Mac Os X

2008-01-23 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, are people having trouble finding the audio and midi settings hidden away in prefernces on Apples? Maybe I should move it back where it belongs under media, or else include it both places. (I doubt that's Marco's problem, but I always have trouble finding it myself :) M On Wed, Jan 23,

Re: [PD] another [declare -lib] strangeness

2008-01-23 Thread Miller Puckette
it does and make sre it keeps doing that. cheers Miller On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:48:50PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 08:25 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm. It never occured to me that people would want to put declare objects inside abstractions (I think it's unwise

Re: [PD] Basic question about Mac Os X

2008-01-23 Thread Miller Puckette
for the preferences, so you'll have people complaining about that. I knew it always drove me nuts, first I'd go to the normal prefs location, then remember, oh yeah, it's in the media menu. You can't please all the people all the time... .hc On Jan 23, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Miller

Re: [PD] another [declare -lib] strangeness

2008-01-23 Thread Miller Puckette
good news! if i can help you in anyway (e.g. documenting as accurately as possible how [declare] behaves), i'd be glad to do so. i am very much convinced, that [declare] is a useful class and worth a lot of effort to make it work. roman Yeah, I find it very useful too. (even

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-0 released

2008-01-23 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd 0.41-0 is available on CVS and on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers M ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Problem in os x 10.5.1?

2008-01-18 Thread Miller Puckette
ouch. The offending code is probably between the fork and exec in t_tkcmd.c (circa line 423). The only function call between them is a sprintf, wouldn't you know. Perhaps it will fix the problem if I do the sprintf before forking? I don't have 10.5.1 to test this on, so if it's easy for you to

Re: [PD] about fiddle~

2008-01-17 Thread Miller Puckette
for the clarifications and suggestions I received. 2008/1/11, Miller Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know any canonical way to decide when a note is finished, except to notice that a new note has started. That's very interesting: it reveals to me how wrong my way of conceiving the whole thing

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-0 test 11 released

2008-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
on http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html . Will update documentation, and failing new bug reports, finalize it soon. cheers Miller ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

Re: [PD] A limited in range numeric box and [ctlin]

2008-01-14 Thread Miller Puckette
There's a larger issue too. In Max, sliders, toggles, etc. pass integers through even if they're out of the nominal range of the object; I just recently noticed that in Pd the IEM GUIs clip pass-through values to the range of the object. I'd love to change this but it would probably break 100s

Re: [PD] Pd version 0.41-0 test 10 - path crashing

2008-01-13 Thread Miller Puckette
OK, this should be fixed the next test version - thanks for warning me. Miller On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:29:44AM -0500, patrick wrote: hi miller, thanks for the effort on 0.41 test 10, i can edit more externals from Startup screen (38 on in 1280x1024) but pd-extended + xsample, py etc..

Re: [PD] about fiddle~

2008-01-11 Thread Miller Puckette
HI all, I don't know any canonical way to decide when a note is finished, except to notice that a new note has started. But it's probably possible to use the discrete output of fiddle~ to catch note-on events and then make up criteria that define endings of notes based on either pitch deviation

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41 test 10 released

2007-12-30 Thread Miller Puckette
, 2007 at 08:47:26PM +0100, Thomas Grill wrote: Am 28.12.2007 um 20:25 schrieb Miller Puckette: I should have put the lock in and forgot... thanks for the reminder. I'm not at all sure how to handle idle in the callback case. One could just call the function forever, but that seems like

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41 test 10 released

2007-12-28 Thread Miller Puckette
I should have put the lock in and forgot... thanks for the reminder. I'm not at all sure how to handle idle in the callback case. One could just call the function forever, but that seems like burning the CPU for nothing. Alternatively, idle processing might want to take place in a different

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41 test 10 released

2007-12-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd 0.41-0 test 10 is ready: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html The only major new feature in 0.41 is callback scheduling; this got a few new rounds of debugging since test 09. cheers Miller ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PD] Pd sets dirty flag on all parent patches when a child abstraction is modified

2007-12-24 Thread Miller Puckette
There's a longstanding bug: when you edit an abstraction, Pd then recreates all copies of that abstraction, which has the side effect of dirtying all parent patches. I think it's on my very long list of bugs to deal with... :) cheers Miller On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 07:51:32PM -0800, Luke

Re: [PD] What exactly is a stack overflow ?

2007-12-20 Thread Miller Puckette
... and to wade in, here's an idea I'm toying with: every 1000 or so bangs that until sends out, check the CPU clock. Each time more than a second elapses, go check the input buffer from the GUI, and execute it (so that mouse clicks would appear within the context of the until loop!) This would

Re: [PD] kml files

2007-12-13 Thread Miller Puckette
If I'm doing it right, single precision float should be able to represent latitude and longitude to within about two meters. If more precision than that is needed, you'll want to use tr to change periods (as well as commas) into spaces so that you get lines like: -112 3348783983763 36

Re: [PD] Pd -extended 0.41 on debian : missing lib

2007-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd 'vanilla' requires 8.3 or up. cheers M On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 05:29:53PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Currently, the dependencies for the nightly builds are hard coded, and are set to support Debian/stable. I set the Debian/testing

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