Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-31 Thread Steffen Leve Poulsen
Interesting project. Here is a Gem version of the basics. Also I'm trying to make one with [pix_sig2pix~] mhv/ Steffen Leve Poulsen Carl Knott skrev: I'd like to write a simulation of a Cymatic Tonoscope. I plan to create a physical model of a circular membrane, sand will be sprinkled on

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-31 Thread Steffen Leve Poulsen
ooos attached Chladni.pd Carl Knott skrev: I'd like to write a simulation of a Cymatic Tonoscope. I plan to create a physical model of a circular membrane, sand will be sprinkled on top of it. When a person speaks into a microphone the membrane will vibrate causing the sand to

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Peach
Cesare Marilungo wrote: Martin Peach wrote: Charles Henry wrote: The sand still could be tricky... you would maybe have the individual particles at random locations, initially, and compute a gradient of the vibrations to determine movements. When I saw the

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-28 Thread Charles Henry
The patterns probably depend on the stiffness of the plate/membrane as well as its shape, and the grain size and density of the sand. It should depend on stiffness, density and shape. The speed of sound in a material is sqrt(stiffness/density). The partial differential equation for waves

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-28 Thread Charles Henry
Robin - 1st order differential equation (specifies a constant phase difference between incoming/reflected waves) for accuracy sake the phase difference is dependent on frequency (it works like an impedance) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-28 Thread Max Neupert
Am 28.03.2007 um 16:32 schrieb Martin Peach: The patterns probably depend on the stiffness of the plate/membrane as well as its shape, and the grain size and density of the sand. By actually dr. hans jenny used a special pollen (lycopodium spores), not sand. because sand has a crystalline

[PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Carl Knott
I'd like to write a simulation of a Cymatic Tonoscope. I plan to create a physical model of a circular membrane, sand will be sprinkled on top of it. When a person speaks into a microphone the membrane will vibrate causing the sand to form standing wave patterns. Obviously this will be done in

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread padawan12
Amazing idea for a project Carl. The way I see it you have two routes. 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina and measure the amplitude at many points on the surface. The sand falls into minima nodes iirc . 2) Cheat. Create the visuals by mapping the known standing

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Cesare Marilungo
Cesare Marilungo wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: Amazing idea for a project Carl. The way I see it you have two routes. 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina and measure the amplitude at many points on the

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Charles Henry
On 3/27/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: Amazing idea for a project Carl. Yeah. Cool! The way I see it you have two routes. 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina and measure the amplitude at

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Charles Henry
To me this whole idea seems rather difficult, if not impossible, to implement. We are talking about interactions happening at the atomic level of matter here. It's not really the atomic level that we have to implement. You can actually treat the material as continuous, and sampled at discrete