Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread cyrille henry
Justin Glenn Smith a écrit : cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : The problem is getting things working for newbies. This has never worked for me, but I haven't tried Karmic yet: i don't think karmic will make any diference. - install default Ubuntu setup - install puredat

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread Justin Glenn Smith
cyrille henry wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >> >> The problem is getting things working for newbies. This has never >> worked for me, but I haven't tried Karmic yet: > i don't think karmic will make any diference. >> >> - install default Ubuntu setup >> - install puredata.deb or pd-ext

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread cyrille henry
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : How would we make Pd use that ALSA compatibility layer? I know about the OSS emulation in Pulseaudio, I believe that would work by doing 'padsp pd'. padsp pd add to much latency, it is clearly unusable for pd. on karmic, i have to set pd audio buffer to 40

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
I think that the problem is PulseAudio. When I try to start jack i really need to shutdoen every program using the server (pulseaudio is a kind of a server) so that jack has control over the sound card. Only after running jack and starting the server, you can open Puredata and then select in media

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Pd should just work with PulseAudio. Pd should be able to play audio while other apps are also playing audio. Pd does this on Mac OS X and Windows, so it should do it on GNU/Linux as well. The only question is, what's the best way to do this? Audacity also has this problem, so I guess

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sound with lots of latency is better than no sound at all. Here's how I see it now: - pd currently doesn't make sound on Fedora/Debian/Ubuntu without changing settings - newbies are screwed, no sound output - advanced users already setup their own audio So if we use padsp by default, we ge

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread cyrille henry
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Sound with lots of latency is better than no sound at all. i don't think so. no sound -> you realize that there is a problem that need to be fixed. big latency -> you think ubuntu / pd is crappy. Here's how I see it now: - pd currently doesn't make sound on

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The problem is getting things working for newbies. This has never worked for me, but I haven't tried Karmic yet: - install default Ubuntu setup - install puredata.deb or pd-extended.deb - launch pd using the GNOME menu item - then check sound This works on Mac OS X and Windows. I am guessi

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
That is true, but if you want realtime audio and low latency, you need to use jack. And also, the firewire cards (at least the FFADO) work only in Jack. I like the idea of having audio concurrency, which is very good for day to day desktop use, but for professional audio that is not good. I think t

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-15 Thread cyrille henry
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : The problem is getting things working for newbies. This has never worked for me, but I haven't tried Karmic yet: i don't think karmic will make any diference. - install default Ubuntu setup - install puredata.deb or pd-extended.deb - launch pd using the GNOM

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
How would we make Pd use that ALSA compatibility layer? I know about the OSS emulation in Pulseaudio, I believe that would work by doing 'padsp pd'. .hc On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:28 PM, John Harrison wrote: IIRC there is some sort of ALSA compatibility layer in Pulseaudio and I think it w

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-13 Thread John Harrison
IIRC there is some sort of ALSA compatibility layer in Pulseaudio and I think it would be nice if Pd-extended could choose this ALSA "driver" or "soft card" or whatever it would be called. That would be a better solution than pasuspender because then Pd would be playing "nice" with all the other so

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-13 Thread Tom Dunstan
I can get sound going with karmic fine out of the box with alsa. however, its not connecting with jack. any suggestions on why that might be? Ardour and jack are fine with rt... Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20091103 Karmic 9.10 32bit uname -a Linux local 2.6.31-9-rt #152-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Thu O

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Is pasuspender something that could be integrated into the Pd-extended menu launch item somehow? I'd really like to make sure that Pd will output audio by just starting it in Debian/Ubunut. .hc On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:09 PM, John Harrison wrote: could be pulseaudio is the problem? from

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-12 Thread Aditya Mandayam
ok, using ALSA i have sound now, but i still get the following DIO errors within PD: 'tried but could not sync A/D/A' ? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM, John Harrison wrote: > could be pulseaudio is the problem? > > from the command line try > > pasuspender pd > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:28 A

Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-12 Thread John Harrison
could be pulseaudio is the problem? from the command line try pasuspender pd On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Aditya Mandayam wrote: > hi, > > i have pd installed on ubunty 9.10 - karmic koala. > > i have absolutely no sound when i fire up pd. i've tried fooling > around with the Media>setting

[PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound

2009-11-12 Thread Aditya Mandayam
hi, i have pd installed on ubunty 9.10 - karmic koala. i have absolutely no sound when i fire up pd. i've tried fooling around with the Media>settings for OSS, ALSA, jack, default MIDI. No sound. What gives? Thank you, Y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing l