Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 03/05/2014 04:36 AM, i go bananas wrote: >>Remember that when you redraw an element of an array you actually redraw the _entire_ array in Pd Vanilla. And depending on the array style you may have a separate tk canvas item for each element.<< why do the iem tab objects work so much better t

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-05 Thread Billy Stiltner
i will look into it next week after my social escapades On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:36 AM, i go bananas wrote: > >>Remember that when you redraw an element of an array you actually > redraw the _entire_ array in Pd Vanilla. And depending on the array style > you may have a separate tk canvas item

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-05 Thread i go bananas
>>Remember that when you redraw an element of an array you actually redraw the _entire_ array in Pd Vanilla. And depending on the array style you may have a separate tk canvas item for each element.<< why do the iem tab objects work so much better then? maelstorm said that it was incredibly slow

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-04 Thread Billy Stiltner
"So when you use the [until] loop you are sending drawing instructions to the GUI ($arraysize * $no_mouse_events) times. A single array redraw instruction in tcl is about 4k, so to scroll a single pixel for a 100-element array: 100 elements * 1 = 100 redraws * 4k = 400k" thats why i say fix tcl/t

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 03/04/2014 01:20 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 03/04/2014 10:11 AM, i go bananas wrote: [...] 2014-03-04 12:12 GMT+01:00 i go bananas mailto:hard@gmail.com>>: just for interest perhaps, here's the sound editor i made years ago: http://puredata.hurleur.com

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 03/04/2014 10:11 AM, i go bananas wrote: [...] 2014-03-04 12:12 GMT+01:00 i go bananas mailto:hard@gmail.com>>: just for interest perhaps, here's the sound editor i made years ago: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1295-sound-editor and probably e

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-04 Thread i go bananas
from memory, i THINK maelstorm's wave display DOES use data structures to do the display. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: > Wow, your patch is impressive, i'd missed that. I've looked at maelstrom's > editor as well. Both will be nice things to study. > i think i'll stic

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-04 Thread Pierre Massat
Wow, your patch is impressive, i'd missed that. I've looked at maelstrom's editor as well. Both will be nice things to study. i think i'll stick to data structures though because what i need is something to record and edit discrete events, not an audio signal. I don't think i have to use tables at

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-04 Thread i go bananas
just for interest perhaps, here's the sound editor i made years ago: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1295-sound-editor and probably even more interesting, here is maelstorm's wave display abstraction: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5890-waveform-display basically, what maelstorm discover

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 03/03/2014 01:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: I've looked seriously at data structures for the first time, and saw what Chris McCormick did with them, and I believe this is the way to go ! But you can't get notifications for mouseover or right-click events. You also cannot get transparency or

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 03/03/2014 02:44 AM, Billy Stiltner wrote: seems like there was something about the way i made the wave editor that worked,i never tried overflowing the the things and my method is a hack of the pd file @xensynth and the lfo editor, otherwise holler at Mike Booth ala mmb. You can make a w

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-03 Thread Pierre Massat
I've looked seriously at data structures for the first time, and saw what Chris McCormick did with them, and I believe this is the way to go ! Cheers, Pierre. 2014-03-03 8:44 GMT+01:00 Billy Stiltner : > seems like there was something about the way i made the wave editor that > worked,i never

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-02 Thread Billy Stiltner
seems like there was something about the way i made the wave editor that worked,i never tried overflowing the the things and my method is a hack of the pd file @xensynth and the lfo editor, otherwise holler at Mike Booth ala mmb. https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22billy.stiltner%4

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-02 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi Jonathan, I found it following this path : help for [tabwrite] --> More_Info --> all_about_arrays --> Common uses for arrays in Pd Bummer, I thought somebody would come up with a secret table manipulation technique that would make this statement true... Cheers, Pierre. 2014-03-02 19:33 GMT+

Re: [PD] Pd as sound editor (issue with "scrolling" a table) ??

2014-03-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
>From that help patch: #X text 12 115 HELP_PATCH_AUTHORS Updated for Pd 0.38-2. Jonathan Wilkes revised the patch to conform to the PDDP template for Pd version 0.42. I did the refactoring of that patch, but I'm not sure who wrote what you're quoting. I'd say that statement is false and should b