[PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-17 Thread Pierre Massat
Dear List, I came accross this "Stompbox design workshop" ( https://ccrma.stanford.edu/wiki/Stompbox_2011). They use Pd on a beagleboard to make stompboxes. They talk about the older version of the beagleboard with a CPU running at around 700 MHz. This is the same speed as the RPi's. I'm wonderin

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-17 Thread Miller Puckette
I could be wrong, but I believe the Beagleboard is ARMv7 and the Pi is ARM v6 - so BB could easily have twice the floating-point erformance of Pi. I'm not sure why and whether there would be any difference in Jack for the two. I believe (but am not sure at all) that BB doesn't have the same USB

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi Miller, Thank you for your reply. I didn't know there could be such a difference in performance between two ARM chips. It seems very attractive indeed, and i think i'll contact the people at CCRMA to ask about the latency they achieved. If it's low enough i'll definitely give it a try. Cheers,

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > I could be wrong, but I believe the Beagleboard is ARMv7 and the Pi is > ARM v6 - so BB could easily have twice the floating-point erformance of > Pi. I'm not sure why and whether there would be any difference in Jack > for the two. I be

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi, I wrote an e-mail to the guys who made the Satellite CCRMA image for the BB, asking about latency and quality of the built-in audio interface. I didn't get a reply to any of these questions, so I guess i'll have to buy one and figure out myself. One interesting news though is that they are pr

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
I just tried out the latency.pd patch in 7.stuff/tools on my beagleboard and [timer] shifts between 72.5 and 75.4, if this answers your question. I've attended a workshop on the BB with Pd by the buys at CCRMA, it was a rather nice one. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: > Hi

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Pierre Massat
Wow! Are you using their satellite distro ? What version of the beagleboard are you using ? 72 ms is definitely unusable for realtime effects. I can't seem to find any info about the latency they achieve and this is a bit strange. A low latency is a sine qua non condition if one wants to build a st

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Max
Am 20.12.2012 um 16:09 schrieb Alexandros Drymonitis : > I just tried out the latency.pd patch in 7.stuff/tools on my beagleboard and > [timer] shifts between 72.5 and 75.4, if this answers your question. I've > attended a workshop on the BB with Pd by the buys at CCRMA, it was a rather > nice

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Yup, I'm using their distro as I got it from them at the workshop. Not sure which version it is, the workshop took place last June, so it shouldn't be old... Building a stombox out of a machine as powerful as a smart phone...dunno. Edgar Berahl himself said that the BB is as powerful as an iPhone 4

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
15 ms, by default, meaning I never touched it, maybe Edgar did the whole setup. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Max wrote: > > Am 20.12.2012 um 16:09 schrieb Alexandros Drymonitis : > > > I just tried out the latency.pd patch in 7.stuff/tools on my beagleboard > and [timer] shifts between 72.5

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Pierre Massat
Hm, ok. So if it's the satellite distro then Pd should run in rt with JACK, which means that the latency you mention is fairly close to the minimum one can get. Am I wrong ? Even 50 ms is unusable for a realtime effect processor. Why call it a "stompbox" workshop then ? :( Thank you Alexandros! 2

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi, just so people know, there is some hardware, not open, but way more powerful available for cheap: look for "MK808 tv box" on geekbuying. Dual arm cortex A9 running Android, 1GB ram, at less than 60USD. Maybe can pd runs on these. Pierre Massat wrote: > Dear List, > > I came accross this "St

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2012-12-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
One thing to remember with all these boards is that ARM boards are not PCs. That means that they are not easily interchangeable. There is not standardized techniques for booting, for example. That means you better be sure you can get the distro that you want running on that board. A Debian

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2013-01-02 Thread Quim Llimona
Hi all, We'll present the RPi version of the Satellite in a lab at TEI'13 ( http://www.tei-conf.org/13/studios, studio 2), which is basically a reduced version of that workshop. So, I guess the distro will be available by then, in 5 weeks. Quim 2012/12/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner > > One thing

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi versus BeagleBoard ?

2013-01-02 Thread michael noble
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Charles Goyard wrote: > Hi, > > just so people know, there is some hardware, not open, but way more > powerful available for cheap: look for "MK808 tv box" on geekbuying. > Dual arm cortex A9 running Android, 1GB ram, at less than 60USD. > > Maybe can pd runs on