Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-30 Thread Simon Iten
katja, you can see the error as an amplitude fluctuation in the array (i think thats the error) it gets more and more dominant with higher frequencies and at some point you hear a deep note, which seems to be the amplitude modulation coming into the hearable range. or am i wrong? i also could

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-30 Thread katja
Hi Simon, Maybe it's just me but I did not find an attachment with your last post. By the way I found a bug in my upsampling method: apparently, [samplerate~] in a resampled subpatch needs some time before it reports the correct samplerate, therefore the subpatch used wrong values for filter freq

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
hi katja, i tried your patch and had a look at it. it’s beautifully programmed :-) so skilled. thanks for taking the time and it’s very interesting to see a different style and different thinking to get to the “same” outcome. i tried (with a different version of the patch) just to replace osc~

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Phil Stone
That is certainly true with bass (electric or upright) as well. (I'm watching this discussion with fascination!) Phil On 4/29/14, 12:10 PM, katja wrote: Hi Simon, I'd be curious to see this adaptive filtering work in practice. Could you share a patch, once you have that working? Vocals most

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread katja
Hi Simon, I'd be curious to see this adaptive filtering work in practice. Could you share a patch, once you have that working? Vocals mostly don't exceed a 3 octave range either. Only thing is, in vocals the strongest component is sometimes not the first harmonic but the second, when speaking or s

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
katja, exactly! i filter the input based on the output of the pitch detection. i used this for quite some time with my doublebass (but with a pickup per string) and it works perfectly. i get no octave jumps or glitches at all. the version i shared here is planned to be used for vocals, i have t

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread katja
Hi Simon, See attachment for an upsampled version. I used a 6th order lo pass filter with cut off at 1/4 of the original sampling rate. This seems to work with max. 8 times upsampling. Period length error is then limited to 1/8 sample. You mentioned adaptive filtering of a real life input signal.

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
Katja thanks for your Inputs! Will Look at the Patch tonight. Simple lowpass Filtering? I tried to upsample with a Block object but the biquad object stopped outputting Pulses. If you don't mind doing a Version with upsampling that would be fantastic. Well i just copied from the Gr300 schematic

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread katja
Hi Simon, So your method counts samples per (zero-crossing) cycle, is what I learned from studying the patch. Very nice how you do this with tilde objects. It seems possible to get equivalent result with only one [rpole~], when using the positive pulse as trigger for [samphold~] and with two sampl

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread simon
nice changes with expr~ ! but i think you missed the point of the beginning of the patch. read in my first e-mail for an explanation of what this patch does exactly. it is an gr300 analog guitar synthesizer clone (well one voice of it). it is intended for real-life signals so there needs to be a

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread Simon Iten
Well i know exactly what the Patch does... I just dont know why the two numbers before the Addition Need to be -1 And -2 :-) Will Look at your Version asap. Cheers Am 29.04.2014 um 02:00 schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres : > I have no idea what the patch is doing either, but I was able to clean

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I have no idea what the patch is doing either, but I was able to clean it a lot. many things that didn't need to be there cheers 2014-04-28 3:52 GMT-03:00 Simon Iten : > roman, thanks for your inputs. > > i tried both fexpr and expr and sticked to fexpr at some point, don’t know > why though.

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
roman, thanks for your inputs. i tried both fexpr and expr and sticked to fexpr at some point, don’t know why though. will change it back! (i remember reading that fexpr was more expensive but also more precise) to make the whole thing work with real world signals (bass guitar in my case) you

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
That works very well. Good job and thanks for sharing! One minor thing jumped to my eye: Your patch uses some instances of [fexpr~] and all of them actually don't need [fexpr~] functionality. I experienced that [fexpr~] is quite expensive, which seems apparent considering it is designed for feedba

[PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-27 Thread simon
hey miller and list, find attached a version that works beautifully. it's a dirty hack without upsampling but it works extremly well. don't ask me why, i have no idea. thanks for all the help miller, really appreciate it! and thanks for pd in general :-) cheers, simon sinetosawtooth.pd De