Re: [PD] code and compilers

2007-12-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Bryan Jurish wrote: In fact, i recently spent about 2 days chasing a bug in some old code of mine that i only managed to track down by looking at the literal memory positions, and if I had had a spiffy blinky pseudo-analogue StarTrek kind of data display, I probably would hav

Re: [PD] code and compilers

2007-12-09 Thread Bryan Jurish
morning all, On 2007-12-08 21:08:29, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to have written: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Andrew Brouse wrote: > >> An old-school hacker (poet turned progammer, classic!) once told me >> that he used to debug his programmes (on mainframes, with not even 1M >> of mem

Re: [PD] code and compilers

2007-12-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Andrew Brouse wrote: An old-school hacker (poet turned progammer, classic!) once told me that he used to debug his programmes (on mainframes, with not even 1M of memory) by actually just watching a display of activity in all memory locations. After a while, he just subconsc

Re: [PD] code and compilers

2007-12-08 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On Dec 8, 2007 4:38 PM, Andrew Brouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An old-school hacker (poet turned progammer, classic!) once told me that > he used to debug his programmes (on mainframes, with not even 1M of > memory) by actually just watching a display of activity in all memory > locations. Af

[PD] code and compilers

2007-12-08 Thread Andrew Brouse
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> As for Pd vs. C, there was a time in the not-so-distant past where >> programmers thought that compilers were horribly inefficient, and that >> they were only really good for prototyping things.