Hi Jared,
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:39 +0100, jared wrote:
>
> >I don't know what your academic experience is, but there is a lot of
>
> >evidence to suggest the opposite of what you are saying.
>
> Then I attended an institution whose policies are different than the
> others.
>
That's real
On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:18 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote:
> Hi Jared,
>
> On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 07:16 +0100, jared wrote:
>
>> While I'm ranting :-)In my academic experience, it's often
>> frowned
>> upon to use other's patches in your own compositions because it seems
>> that the patches themselves
Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 21:35 +0200, Georg Holzmann a écrit :
> Hallo!
> However, I only wanted to say that the goal of pd-extended is exactly
> what you described -
So I have to conclude that pd-extended seriously need a kind of
interface that would help going directly to the stuff we need.
Hallo!
> Nice try but not functionnal...
> pd-extended provides a maximum of functionning externals, gives a lot of
> examples, but it doesn't provide a fully fonctionning set of objects
> like net-pd does
Yes I know that it does not work yet, but thats the goal of pd-extended ...
> if there is
Hello Georg,
Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 20:28 +0200, Georg Holzmann a écrit :
> Hallo!
>
> > Net-pd is for me the ONLY project where we could have a chance one day
> > for having ALL externals, abstractions, extensions and even the hardware
> > dependant externals in action, without having passi
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:28 +0200, Georg Holzmann wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> > Net-pd is for me the ONLY project where we could have a chance one day
> > for having ALL externals, abstractions, extensions and even the hardware
> > dependant externals in action, without having passing hours about
> > con
Hallo!
> Net-pd is for me the ONLY project where we could have a chance one day
> for having ALL externals, abstractions, extensions and even the hardware
> dependant externals in action, without having passing hours about
> configuring pd, understanding how the object works, etc ...
[...]
> and
Hello Jamie,
> While I'm ranting :-)In my academic experience, it's often frowned
> upon to use other's patches in your own compositions because it seems
> that the patches themselves are the work of art; and it's almost as if
> this is considered plagiarism.
>I don't know what your acad
Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 18:44 +0200, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
> On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 17:30 +0200, Patco wrote:
>
> > ( net-pd is one kind of this project obviously but I've found it misses
> > documentation for having a real idea on how it is functionning, maybe I
> > didn't go deeply enough
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 17:30 +0200, Patco wrote:
> ( net-pd is one kind of this project obviously but I've found it misses
> documentation for having a real idea on how it is functionning, maybe I
> didn't go deeply enough through the available files...)
what are you missing? i know that netpd l
Hi Jared,
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 07:16 +0100, jared wrote:
> While I'm ranting :-)In my academic experience, it's often frowned
> upon to use other's patches in your own compositions because it seems
> that the patches themselves are the work of art; and it's almost as if
> this is considered
john saylor wrote:
> computers use math to do audio [dsp, convolution, ...]. so you need to
> study math [not really that much for most applications, but it does
> help].
I don't think that is true. you definitely don't need to study math to
make music. you don't need programming skills to use
On 6/7/07, john saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi
>
> On 6/7/07, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I really think it's just absurd to force all musicians into a model
> > that may only make sense from the software engineering / DSP side of
> > things. I usually am arguing more on the
jared wrote:
> Hey Andy.
[snip]
> The force of industry is continually to divide programmers from
> practicioners, to demark roles like "creative sound designer" from
> "audio programmer" and create neat conservative little pidgeonholes for
> HR people to fit CVs into. Of course this is nonsense.
hi
On 6/7/07, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I really think it's just absurd to force all musicians into a model
> that may only make sense from the software engineering / DSP side of
> things. I usually am arguing more on the pro-technology side of
> things, but in this case I think I
Well, by the same token, everyone should:
1. Know how to conduct an orchestra and jazz big band
2. Know how to arrange for orchestra and jazz big band
3. Know how to play piano
4. Know how to play one wind or string instrument
5. Know how to play at least one percussion instrument
6. Understand cl
One addition:
The elitist attitude may also have something to do with the inverse
relationship between spending time programming and spending time
socializing. If all one doing in your days is programming a computer,
i.e. telling it what to do, one needn't to utilize the more mamallian
soft-logic
Some of my favorites along this line are the pmpd examples. In the
Help Browser, check out examples->pmpd. Watch out, they can use a
lot of CPU time, so it's best to check on "defeat real-time
scheduling" in the Startup preferences when playing with those.
.hc
On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:30 AM
Hey Andy.
I personally don't believe there is any sort of line that separates
composer from programmer, or sound designer, except that at the two
extremes of the spectrum some programmers can be obsessive about
technical methodology and never explore aesthetics, and some composers
can be nonchal
> I'm sure Mr. Spock had to deal with this all the time and I sure as
> hell know that many people in my undergrad math department did!
>
> ~Kyle
my turn
[steps up on the soap box]
Everyone should learn at least calculus and differential equations.
Elementary concepts of signal processing (not nec
> All of the work done (out of love, not money) by the pd community
should
> be applauded. With that said, there is a sense of elitism.
how does this perceived elitism affect your ability to make music? to
learn about digitial synthesis?
None. I'm not saying that it affects productivit
Beautifully written.
One addition:
The elitist attitude may also have something to do with the inverse
relationship between spending time programming and spending time
socializing. If all one doing in your days is programming a computer,
i.e. telling it what to do, one needn't to utilize the more
Hello,
are there any project where we can see almost all externals in action,
at least all externals that doesn't require particular hardware, and
that could be run with a 'one clic' or 'one command' pd installation
like pd-extended for example ?
I mean by this kind of project, a workstation wh
hi
On 6/7/07, jared <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All of the work done (out of love, not money) by the pd community should
> be applauded. With that said, there is a sense of elitism.
how does this perceived elitism affect your ability to make music? to
learn about digitial synthesis? is it an ex
i love this!
On 6/7/07, jared <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:40:51PM +0100, timon wrote:
> Some time ago I was explained the issues of why FTGL libs was not
> included GEM for the extended OSX release of PD. The answer did not
> make me any wiser. The conclusion was "Com
get back on that soap box!
i wanna throw some tomatoes!
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:40:51PM +0100, timon wrote:
> Some time ago I was explained the issues of why FTGL libs was not
> included GEM for the extended OSX release of PD. The answer did not
> make me any wiser. The conclusion was "Compile it yourself". Its a
> shame that such a great too
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