Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Farnell
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:38:46 -0500 Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:37:06AM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:27:32 -0500 > > Martin Peach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andy Farnell wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:49 -0500 > > >

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:37:06AM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:27:32 -0500 > Martin Peach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy Farnell wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:49 -0500 > > > Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, we're clear on that. I was responding

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:27:32 -0500 Martin Peach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Farnell wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:49 -0500 > > Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:19PM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > >> > >>> As I see, the unipolar

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Martin Peach
Andy Farnell wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:49 -0500 > Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:19PM +, Andy Farnell wrote: >> >>> As I see, the unipolar vacuum collapse theory only makes sense, if there >>> is a chemical reaction that removes

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:49 -0500 Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:19PM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > > As I see, the unipolar vacuum collapse theory only makes sense, if there > > is a chemical reaction that removes CO2, H2O, O2 or N2 from the atmosphere,

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:19PM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > As I see, the unipolar vacuum collapse theory only makes sense, if there > is a chemical reaction that removes CO2, H2O, O2 or N2 from the atmosphere, > (and one assumes no matter is transformed to energy) - well NO2 and O3 > are prod

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes. A rapid expansion and collapse of air pressure would most definitely be inseparable causes. ~Kyle On Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes. That's part of it. > > According to Ribner and Roys first paper the vacuum collapse model > is refuted - we

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Farnell
Yes. That's part of it. According to Ribner and Roys first paper the vacuum collapse model is refuted - well, they don't use that exact word - more like they suggest it is replaced... "As recently as the late 1800's, four theories of thunder were in competition: The vacuum collapse theory, the

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-06 Thread Peter Plessas
* Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-02-05 23:33]: > > > You're spot on there. I will develop the stereo image as I work on > the environment model. > > But interestingly enough, lightning _is_ an explosion, one hell of > a big explosion. The plasma is as hot as the Sun for an instant and >

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-05 Thread Andy Farnell
You're spot on there. I will develop the stereo image as I work on the environment model. But interestingly enough, lightning _is_ an explosion, one hell of a big explosion. The plasma is as hot as the Sun for an instant and that's why the air expands, the energy in a lightning bold makes most b

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Robert Henke (Monolake, Ableton) has a little Youtube video that talks about simulating thunders with a delay matrix comprised of several granular delays and an initial impulse. Here is the video. I don't know more than that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL4MMJMXEFk ~Kyle On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 a

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-04 Thread hard off
just a suggestion: i think the reason why they sound a bit like explosions, rather than thunder, is because the cracks of thunder are propogated directly in front of you. maybe some sort of spatialization could make the crack appear more overhead, and then the rumble lower down?

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-04 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:01:59 -0500 marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi andy, > the samples sound very complex already, how did you create them? I had > more the impression of explosions, though, than thunder. Yes, interesting feedback. Theres three models I've got atm. The Wright M

Re: [PD] pd thunder

2008-02-04 Thread marius schebella
hi andy, the samples sound very complex already, how did you create them? I had more the impression of explosions, though, than thunder. regarding books, do you know if any of these books are available as pdfs at all? otherwise do you want paper copies??? at least the second article is available

[PD] pd thunder

2008-02-04 Thread Andy Farnell
Any feedback appreciated (aesthetic criticism most welcome) on some designs done in Pd. http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-21.mp3 http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-34.mp3 http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-57.mp3 If anyon