Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Ingo
x patches. Ingo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von > Ingo > Gesendet: Freitag, 16. September 2011 16:42 > An: 'Claude Heiland-Allen'; pd-list@iem.at > Betreff: Re: [PD] pduino rewrite > > Hi Claude, >

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Ingo
Hi Claude, > > When I started I thought it was very convenient to use wireless > > [send/receive] objects to send midi data to the sample-voices (which it > is). > [snip] > > Sending 3,000 messages to 8,000 [receive] objects adds up to 24 million > > times per second that the individual [receive]

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Hi Ingo, On 16/09/11 13:02, Ingo wrote: When I started I thought it was very convenient to use wireless [send/receive] objects to send midi data to the sample-voices (which it is). [snip] Sending 3,000 messages to 8,000 [receive] objects adds up to 24 million times per second that the individu

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Ingo
; An: Ingo > Cc: 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'; pd-list@iem.at > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [PD] pduino rewrite > > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 14:05 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > > Wow, I just compared your version of [pd digital message] with mine > and > > > yours

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 14:05 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > Wow, I just compared your version of [pd digital message] with mine and > > yours takes only 180ms to process 100 of messages, while mine uses > > over 8s. > > Frankly, I wouldn't have expected such a big difference Let me dig > > into this

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Ingo
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Roman Haefeli [mailto:reduz...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 16. September 2011 11:32 > An: Ingo > Cc: 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'; pd-list@iem.at > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [PD] pduino rewrite > > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 05

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Ingo
> Wow, I just compared your version of [pd digital message] with mine and > yours takes only 180ms to process 100 of messages, while mine uses > over 8s. > Frankly, I wouldn't have expected such a big difference Let me dig > into this. > > Roman That's more than I would have expected, to

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 11:32 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 05:57 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > > The [change -1] is a great idea, I just committed that to bytemask.pd > > > and debytemask.pd. But the [pd resolve-bits_0-7] abstractions seem > > > quite labor-intensive, but they work.

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 05:57 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > The [change -1] is a great idea, I just committed that to bytemask.pd > > and debytemask.pd. But the [pd resolve-bits_0-7] abstractions seem > > quite labor-intensive, but they work. I think it would work better to > > use multiple instances of [

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Wow, I just compared your version of [pd digital message] with mine and yours takes only 180ms to process 100 of messages, while mine uses over 8s. Frankly, I wouldn't have expected such a big difference Let me dig into this. Roman On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 05:57 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > The

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Ingo
> The [change -1] is a great idea, I just committed that to bytemask.pd > and debytemask.pd. But the [pd resolve-bits_0-7] abstractions seem > quite labor-intensive, but they work. I think it would work better to > use multiple instances of [debytemask]. > > .hc Not sure what you mean by "labor

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 13:19 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:43 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 11:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:01 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 09:44 +0200, In

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 13:29 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:54 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > Hi Hans, > > > > unfortunately I am not really good at C or C++ so I have to stick with > > simplifying within Pd until I get there. But I am actually working on it so > > I'll be

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. September 2011 17:48 > > An: Ingo > > Cc: 'Roman Haefeli'; pd-list@iem.at > > Betreff: Re: AW: [PD] pduino rewrite > > > > On Thu, 2011-0

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:43 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 11:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:01 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 09:44 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > > > The reason why I didn't make an abstraction for the "de

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Ingo
it's working perfectly. Ingo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. September 2011 17:48 > An: Ingo > Cc: 'Roman Haefeli'; pd-list@iem.at > Betreff: Re: AW: [PD] pduino rewrite >

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 11:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:01 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 09:44 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > > The reason why I didn't make an abstraction for the "debyte" is that I > > > wanted to keep the number of files and dep

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:20 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > Interesting. How did you quantify the amount of message transfers? What > > makes it differ so much, like you say? > > I simply (roughly) counted the numbers of objects the calculation including > all sub processes have to pass until you get the f

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:01 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 09:44 +0200, Ingo wrote: > > The reason why I didn't make an abstraction for the "debyte" is that I > > wanted to keep the number of files and dependencies as low as possible. I > > think this was the original idea of t

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Ingo
> Interesting. How did you quantify the amount of message transfers? What > makes it differ so much, like you say? I simply (roughly) counted the numbers of objects the calculation including all sub processes have to pass until you get the final result. (Unfortunately I cannot tell how heavy each

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 09:44 +0200, Ingo wrote: > The reason why I didn't make an abstraction for the "debyte" is that I > wanted to keep the number of files and dependencies as low as possible. I > think this was the original idea of the rewrite, right? Yeah, exactly. I would like to be able to in

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-15 Thread Ingo
x27;s digital pins. Ingo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Roman Haefeli [mailto:reduz...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. September 2011 08:44 > An: Ingo > Cc: 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'; pd-list@iem.at > Betreff: Re: AW: [PD] pduino rewrite > > Hi Ingo > > Thank

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
ata / [arduino] the better. Roman > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von > > Hans-Christoph Steiner > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2011 22:33 > > An: Roman Haefeli > &g

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
As Ingo pointed out, one bug is that [mapping/debytemask] has the [change] object for each outlet. So probably the way to fix this is to make a bunch of [mapping/debytemask] objects for all the possible digital ports. [arduino] should only output on change of digital input, and it receives the d

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 11:48 +0200, Ingo wrote: > Hi Roman, > > thanks for taking the time looking at the code. Unfortunately your version > will be sending even many more wrong numbers. > > I have put some list messages into your patch. Keep clicking onto them > randomly and you will see that the

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Ingo Thanks for all your reports. Sorry that my replies sometimes only come a few days later. I'm still willing to fix any outstanding issues, but not very often I find time to get an arduino into my hands. Since sometimes I have troubles following you and keeping your several bug reports apar

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-10 Thread Ingo
There is another thing that I just noticed about the pduino test-patch. The mode buttons are suggesting that you can turn of all functions by selecting "NONE". This is not true! These buttons have absolutely NO function and should be replaced with the correct commands. While doing this the option

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-10 Thread Ingo
Hi Roman, Olsen and Hans, Here' a replacement object that fixes the behaviour that wrong "digital in" pins get recognized when more than the first 6 pins are used. I hope there is nothing else interfering with those pins anymore. The object "digital_messages" inside the patch should be placed her

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-10 Thread Ingo
ila / Duemilanove now) and the whole thing is going crazy now sending wrong stuff all over the place. Ingo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at] > Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 16:41 > An: Ingo > Cc: 'Roman Haefeli&#

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
maybe > they do and simply cannot figure out where the problem comes from? > > Ingo > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Roman Haefeli [mailto:reduz...@gmail.com] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 10:49 > > An: Ingo > > Cc: 'olsen

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-09 Thread Ingo
from? Ingo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Roman Haefeli [mailto:reduz...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 10:49 > An: Ingo > Cc: 'olsen'; 'pd-list' > Betreff: Re: AW: [PD] pduino rewrite > > On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 10:03 +02

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 10:03 +0200, Ingo wrote: > Hi Roman, > > I just messed around with the rewrite and - as you mentioned - you didn't > fix any of the bugs. > > I even think I send you a mail about the digital pins 2 & 3 and provided a > fix for it here at the forum. Of course it's still there

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-09 Thread Ingo
I forgot to mention: I tested with a Duemilanove. Ingo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von > Ingo > Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2011 10:04 > An: 'Roman Haefeli'; 'olsen'; 'pd-

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-09 Thread Ingo
Hi Roman, I just messed around with the rewrite and - as you mentioned - you didn't fix any of the bugs. I even think I send you a mail about the digital pins 2 & 3 and provided a fix for it here at the forum. Of course it's still there! About the other things: - The test patch has still no swi

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Ingo On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 05:47 +0200, Ingo wrote: > OK, I got it! > > Downloading the files didn't work (at least not on my Windows computer) but > copying the content into a bunch of text files and renaming them did. Hm.. is this probably due to Windows and Linux using different line break

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-08 Thread Ingo
0 - 13 are gone. Ingo > Betreff: Re: [PD] pduino rewrite > > I could not open any patch at all! Neither Natty nor Windows XP worked. > I am still on Pd-extended 0.42.5. > There is a huge list of stuff (not pd library related) missing. > > So far this doesn't look like i

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-08 Thread Ingo
I could not open any patch at all! Neither Natty nor Windows XP worked. I am still on Pd-extended 0.42.5. There is a huge list of stuff (not pd library related) missing. So far this doesn't look like it's improving any dependency problem. Ingo > buenas tutti > > roman & me did some rewrite on

Re: [PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This is a great start, it needed some loving. I'll check it out when I have some time. .hc On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 12:20 +0200, olsen wrote: > buenas tutti > > roman & me did some rewrite on the pduino - citing the README: > > Pduino - improved > - > > All Pd patches are based

[PD] pduino rewrite

2011-09-02 Thread olsen
buenas tutti roman & me did some rewrite on the pduino - citing the README: Pduino - improved - All Pd patches are based on the official Pduino (version 0.5beta8) maintained by Hans-Christoph Steiner. The goals of the improvements are: * Get rid of avoidable dependencies on