Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Thanks everybody for the useful insights. Just to make clear my intent in choosing a GPL license: - keep the code free and open - encourage the use of free and open software - avoid the use of the code in proprietary environments. So, this is what I aim for, and I thought (maybe erroneously?) th

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-17 Thread Simon Wise
On 16/03/12 22:37, Bryan Jurish wrote: On 2012-03-16 05:58, Simon Wise wrote: But generally this is not how an end user runs a Max executable ... they do not have Max on their machine, the executable they receive includes all required to run it. There are no Max "system libraries" to call, and t

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> > From: Marco Donnarumma >To: pd-list@iem.at >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:48 AM >Subject: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues > > >hey folks, > > >I'm not going to port anything to Max, but someone express

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-16 Thread Bryan Jurish
On 2012-03-16 05:58, Simon Wise wrote: > But generally this is not how an end user runs a Max executable ... they > do not have Max on their machine, the executable they receive includes > all required to run it. There are no Max "system libraries" to call, and > they do not have a "Max interpreter

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Simon Wise
On 15/03/12 20:48, Bryan Jurish wrote: so now, to make it spicier, I found this FAQ: ~ If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does that mean that any software which uses it has to be under the GPL or a GPL-compatible license? Ye

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Simon Wise
On 15/03/12 17:34, Bryan Jurish wrote: ... my take is that for a (Pd|Max|...) patch, the dataflow interpreter (Pd, Max, or what have you) represents the required "system library" for use of that patch, so the copyleft doesn't kick in. If you're the copyright holder, you can also always add expl

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 15/03/12 12:07, Marco Donnarumma wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Marco Donnarumma > wrote: ... I found this FAQ: ~ If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does that mean that any software which uses it has t

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Bryan Jurish
moin Marco, i'm not a lawyer and have never even played one on TV. whatever assertions i make in the sequel regarding the GPL and its consequences may be wildly off the mark. ... that said, i *have* spent a lot of time dissecting the GPL recently for my employer (an academic institution) aft

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Marco Donnarumma
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > thanks for the hint Bryan, > that might apply. > In this case, porting the code to Max or Max4Live is not legal, unless I > specify an additional exception for it, is it correct? > > so now, to make it spicier, > I found this FAQ: > ~

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Marco Donnarumma
thanks for the hint Bryan, that might apply. In this case, porting the code to Max or Max4Live is not legal, unless I specify an additional exception for it, is it correct? so now, to make it spicier, I found this FAQ: ~ If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does t

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-15 Thread Bryan Jurish
moin Marco, sounds like a case for the "system library exception" to me; see here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs ... my take is that for a (Pd|Max|...) patch, the dataflow interpreter (Pd, Max, or what have you) represents the required "system library" for use of

Re: [PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-14 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > what are the license issues here? > The XS framework in Pd will be GPL. > Can a Max software be GPL? What about copyleft then? There's no problem with that, and in fact it's easier that LGPL code: GPL means the whole code of the patches using Xth Sense has to be avai

[PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

2012-03-14 Thread Marco Donnarumma
hey folks, I'm not going to port anything to Max, but someone expressed interest in porting the Xth Sense in Max. Now, apart from my personal view about this, which is a diplomatic "I'd rather not, thanks. Port the patch you need to Pd instead". what are the license issues here? The XS framework