Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-04-05 Thread Dan Wilcox
;>> >>>>>>>>>>> # kill pulse audio if it was spawned >>>>>>>>>>> pulseaudio -k >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not looking at the udoo run script, but I'm pr

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-24 Thread Simon Iten
with udoo. >>> but please post your setup. >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> On 09 Mar 2014, at 22:26, Dan Wilcox wrote: >>> >>> I've tried my both Roland Edirol UA-25 & UA-25EX and both work great. >>> The dedicated USB contro

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-24 Thread Simon Iten
ts to the console and runs the PD through scripting. The >> speed is great as compared to my old wearable computer. 4 cores makes a >> difference. >> >> I had to recompile my kernel to add midi support, but that's working >> great. It's not too bad, actually. I

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-16 Thread Simon Wise
Any digital instrument also has latencies. Basically it is a matter of playing the instrument you are using. How are you measuring the latency? with a digital instrument, in this context, it has to be from the time the gesture is made that controls the effect, till the effect is heard by the

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-16 Thread David Medine
BTW, not to overstate the obvious, but... A good way to measure total latency is with an oscilloscope. Hook up one probe to the mic, the other probe to a wire coming out of an output on your device. Then make a patch that sends the sound straight through, eg: [dac~] | [adc~] If you stimulate

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 03/16/2014 05:33 AM, Simon Iten wrote: [...] Any digital instrument also has latencies. Basically it is a matter of playing the instrument you are using. How are you measuring the latency? -Jonathan Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UN

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-16 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Also, for an electric guitar player, the difference between the latency you get with an analog amp (not perceivable) and a computer with more than 10(?)ms latency, is very big. Maybe around 10ms would be "ideal", but haven't reached that (yet?), but would really love to. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-16 Thread Simon Iten
well, i play a lot in an orchestra. (doublebass) and i can assure you it’s a problem you don’t get used to. (and that is not just me) sure you can adapt to the situation but it is not ideal. let a pipe organ player play with a conductor and orchestra and the fun begins :-) it works but it needs

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Simon Wise
On 15/03/14 23:03, Dan Wilcox wrote: I guess I don't get that since I've been playing that relative latency for years. How is 10-15 ms not "real time"? It's not even really perceivable unless you're doing lots of high rate short attack& decay stuff. At least as far as I can tell. I must be slow.

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Dan Wilcox
audiodev 5 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Use pd -listdev to get the device list from alsa. I chose 5 as the >>>>>>>>>> first 4 (from memory) are 1-2 (built in hardware & plugin) & 2-3 >>>>>>&g

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Simon Iten
t;>>> without jack i should add... >>>>>>>>>> On 11 Mar 2014, at 08:55, Simon Iten wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hey dan, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> unfo

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Charles Goyard
Dan Wilcox wrote: > Check this page: > http://www.michalkaszczyszyn.com/en/tutorials/latency.html#acceptable > > I was wrong, the guitar to amp latency at 1 meter away is roughly 3 ms. No, it's the amp to ear, related to speed of sound in atmosphere (around 300m/s). The electric signal in your

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Dan Wilcox
t; >>>>>>>>>>> hey dan, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately i’m in switzerland :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> would be great if you c

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Dan Wilcox
;>> On 11 Mar 2014, at 08:55, Simon Iten wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hey dan, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately i’m in switzerland :-) >>>>>

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-15 Thread Simon Iten
d card. >>>>>>>>> maybe the cheap card from dx.com just does not work properly with >>>>>>>>> udoo. >>>>>>>>> but please post your setup. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks >&g

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-14 Thread Dan Wilcox
4, at 22:26, Dan Wilcox wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've tried my both Roland Edirol UA-25 & UA-25EX and both work great. >>>>>>>>> The dedicated USB controller makes these guys work as compared to an >>&g

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-14 Thread Simon Iten
;>>>>>>> a Linaro install which boots to the console and runs the PD through >>>>>>>> scripting. The speed is great as compared to my old wearable computer. >>>>>>>> 4 cores makes a difference. >>>>>

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-12 Thread Richie Cyngler
with other Jack-enabeld apps. > Same with X windows, although my setup was running great in X with pd + > ALSA in testing. > > From your description, it sounds like your main issue is jack & pd are > probably not running in realtime. > > I can sent you my install notes if

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
gt;> scripting. The speed is great as compared to my old wearable computer. >>>>>>> 4 cores makes a difference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had to recompile my kernel to add midi support, but that's working >>>>>>> g

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
also built Pd-vanilal from source >>>>>> which was pretty easy using ./configure + make. I also have a script >>>>>> which fetches externals and builds/installs the agains vanilla so I have >>>>>> the few externals I need. &g

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
>>>>> performance with RT permissions, the -rt startup flag, and ALSA. Jack is >>>>> needless overheard unless you want to work with other Jack-enabeld apps. >>>>> Same with X windows, although my setup was running great in X with pd + >>>

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
ows, although my setup was running great in X with pd + >>>> ALSA in testing. >>>> >>>> From your description, it sounds like your main issue is jack & pd are >>>> probably not running in realtime. >>>> >>>> I can sen

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-11 Thread Dan Wilcox
setup was running great in X with pd + >>> ALSA in testing. >>> >>> From your description, it sounds like your main issue is jack & pd are >>> probably not running in realtime. >>> >>> I can sent you my install notes if you want (or put t

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-11 Thread Simon Iten
ke your main issue is jack & pd are >> probably not running in realtime. >> >> I can sent you my install notes if you want (or put them online, as I've >> been meaning to). Also, are based in the NE within driving distance to >> Pittsburgh? We could do a

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-11 Thread Simon Iten
thin driving distance to Pittsburgh? > We could do a patching circle/UDOO setup afternoon :D > > On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:14 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > >> From: Miller Puckette >> Subject: Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues >> Date: March 9, 2014 at 5:07:54 PM EDT

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-09 Thread Dan Wilcox
(or put them online, as I've been meaning to). Also, are based in the NE within driving distance to Pittsburgh? We could do a patching circle/UDOO setup afternoon :D On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:14 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > From: Miller Puckette > Subject: Re: [PD] udoo board sound is

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-09 Thread Simon Iten
hi miller fantastic, thanks On 09 Mar 2014, at 22:07, Miller Puckette wrote: > H iSimon - > > I haven't tried any but the built-in yet but I have a few USB interfaces > around here that I can try. I'm about to go on an intense trip but should > be able to do some tests when I get back, assumin

Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-09 Thread Miller Puckette
H iSimon - I haven't tried any but the built-in yet but I have a few USB interfaces around here that I can try. I'm about to go on an intense trip but should be able to do some tests when I get back, assuming nobody else has figured this out first. cheers Miller On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 09:57:45

[PD] udoo board sound issues

2014-03-09 Thread Simon Iten
hey list, does anybody that uses an udoo board have any recommendations on a usb-soundcard? should be very compact. i tried a cheap one from dx and i could not get any good results (loads of xruns even with periods 3 and 1024 and up frames in qjackctl) this is on the ubuntu version from udoo. a