;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # kill pulse audio if it was spawned
>>>>>>>>>>> pulseaudio -k
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not looking at the udoo run script, but I'm pr
with udoo.
>>> but please post your setup.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> On 09 Mar 2014, at 22:26, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>
>>> I've tried my both Roland Edirol UA-25 & UA-25EX and both work great.
>>> The dedicated USB contro
ts to the console and runs the PD through scripting. The
>> speed is great as compared to my old wearable computer. 4 cores makes a
>> difference.
>>
>> I had to recompile my kernel to add midi support, but that's working
>> great. It's not too bad, actually. I
Any digital instrument also has latencies. Basically it is a matter of
playing the instrument you are using.
How are you measuring the latency?
with a digital instrument, in this context, it has to be from the time the
gesture is made that controls the effect, till the effect is heard by the
BTW, not to overstate the obvious, but...
A good way to measure total latency is with an oscilloscope. Hook up one
probe to the mic, the other probe to a wire coming out of an output on
your device. Then make a patch that sends the sound straight through, eg:
[dac~]
|
[adc~]
If you stimulate
On 03/16/2014 05:33 AM, Simon Iten wrote:
[...]
Any digital instrument also has latencies. Basically it is a matter of playing
the instrument you are using.
How are you measuring the latency?
-Jonathan
Simon
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Also, for an electric guitar player, the difference between the latency you
get with an analog amp (not perceivable) and a computer with more than
10(?)ms latency, is very big. Maybe around 10ms would be "ideal", but
haven't reached that (yet?), but would really love to.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1
well, i play a lot in an orchestra. (doublebass) and i can assure you it’s a
problem you don’t get used to. (and that is not just me) sure you can adapt to
the situation but it is not ideal. let a pipe organ player play with a
conductor and orchestra and the fun begins :-) it works but it needs
On 15/03/14 23:03, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I guess I don't get that since I've been playing that relative latency for
years. How is 10-15 ms not "real time"? It's not even really perceivable
unless you're doing lots of high rate short attack& decay stuff. At least as
far as I can tell. I must be slow.
audiodev 5
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Use pd -listdev to get the device list from alsa. I chose 5 as the
>>>>>>>>>> first 4 (from memory) are 1-2 (built in hardware & plugin) & 2-3
>>>>>>&g
t;>>> without jack i should add...
>>>>>>>>>> On 11 Mar 2014, at 08:55, Simon Iten wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hey dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unfo
Dan Wilcox wrote:
> Check this page:
> http://www.michalkaszczyszyn.com/en/tutorials/latency.html#acceptable
>
> I was wrong, the guitar to amp latency at 1 meter away is roughly 3 ms.
No, it's the amp to ear, related to speed of sound in atmosphere
(around 300m/s).
The electric signal in your
t;
>>>>>>>>>>> hey dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately i’m in switzerland :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> would be great if you c
;>> On 11 Mar 2014, at 08:55, Simon Iten wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hey dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately i’m in switzerland :-)
>>>>>
d card.
>>>>>>>>> maybe the cheap card from dx.com just does not work properly with
>>>>>>>>> udoo.
>>>>>>>>> but please post your setup.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>&g
4, at 22:26, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've tried my both Roland Edirol UA-25 & UA-25EX and both work great.
>>>>>>>>> The dedicated USB controller makes these guys work as compared to an
>>&g
;>>>>>>> a Linaro install which boots to the console and runs the PD through
>>>>>>>> scripting. The speed is great as compared to my old wearable computer.
>>>>>>>> 4 cores makes a difference.
>>>>>
with other Jack-enabeld apps.
> Same with X windows, although my setup was running great in X with pd +
> ALSA in testing.
>
> From your description, it sounds like your main issue is jack & pd are
> probably not running in realtime.
>
> I can sent you my install notes if
gt;> scripting. The speed is great as compared to my old wearable computer.
>>>>>>> 4 cores makes a difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had to recompile my kernel to add midi support, but that's working
>>>>>>> g
also built Pd-vanilal from source
>>>>>> which was pretty easy using ./configure + make. I also have a script
>>>>>> which fetches externals and builds/installs the agains vanilla so I have
>>>>>> the few externals I need.
&g
>>>>> performance with RT permissions, the -rt startup flag, and ALSA. Jack is
>>>>> needless overheard unless you want to work with other Jack-enabeld apps.
>>>>> Same with X windows, although my setup was running great in X with pd +
>>>
ows, although my setup was running great in X with pd +
>>>> ALSA in testing.
>>>>
>>>> From your description, it sounds like your main issue is jack & pd are
>>>> probably not running in realtime.
>>>>
>>>> I can sen
setup was running great in X with pd +
>>> ALSA in testing.
>>>
>>> From your description, it sounds like your main issue is jack & pd are
>>> probably not running in realtime.
>>>
>>> I can sent you my install notes if you want (or put t
ke your main issue is jack & pd are
>> probably not running in realtime.
>>
>> I can sent you my install notes if you want (or put them online, as I've
>> been meaning to). Also, are based in the NE within driving distance to
>> Pittsburgh? We could do a
thin driving distance to Pittsburgh?
> We could do a patching circle/UDOO setup afternoon :D
>
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:14 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
>
>> From: Miller Puckette
>> Subject: Re: [PD] udoo board sound issues
>> Date: March 9, 2014 at 5:07:54 PM EDT
(or put them online, as I've been
meaning to). Also, are based in the NE within driving distance to Pittsburgh?
We could do a patching circle/UDOO setup afternoon :D
On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:14 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
> From: Miller Puckette
> Subject: Re: [PD] udoo board sound is
hi miller
fantastic, thanks
On 09 Mar 2014, at 22:07, Miller Puckette wrote:
> H iSimon -
>
> I haven't tried any but the built-in yet but I have a few USB interfaces
> around here that I can try. I'm about to go on an intense trip but should
> be able to do some tests when I get back, assumin
H iSimon -
I haven't tried any but the built-in yet but I have a few USB interfaces
around here that I can try. I'm about to go on an intense trip but should
be able to do some tests when I get back, assuming nobody else has figured
this out first.
cheers
Miller
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 09:57:45
hey list,
does anybody that uses an udoo board have any recommendations on a
usb-soundcard? should be very compact.
i tried a cheap one from dx and i could not get any good results (loads of
xruns even with periods 3 and 1024 and up frames in qjackctl) this is on the
ubuntu version from udoo.
a
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