Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> To be honest, I don't think the non classic mode is that much > sensible. It'd make much more sense to me to specify a power > exponential. I take this back, because that what it does after all, you specify the power exponential :) I still think we need to clone the classic mode behavior, but I

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> There's no way mapping 13.3 from 0-127 to -1 to 1 > should result in something so close to -1 well, there wouldn't be a way if it were a linear scaling... but it's a logarithmic scale, so it'll do what it does. > Just try a few different exponents and > you'll see that there's a bug in the Max

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Well, I'm trying to point out that it ain't "broken", the object works... whatever its code is. I'm just trying to figure out the code to clone it. 2015-06-19 22:55 GMT-03:00 Joel Matthys : > I just don't see the value of trying to make it compatible with broken > code in Max. > > Joel > > > On

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Joel Matthys
I just don't see the value of trying to make it compatible with broken code in Max. Joel On 06/19/2015 08:47 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: yeah, I see all that, but the problem is trying to clone it as it is in Max for the sake of compatibility. I wouldn't say that the classic mode is "

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yeah, I see all that, but the problem is trying to clone it as it is in Max for the sake of compatibility. I wouldn't say that the classic mode is "wrong", it may be not good for the purpose, but it's an arbitrary mathematical formula, so it is what it is. The problem is that I'm not being able t

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Joel Matthys
You're using the [scale] formula from @classic_mode in Max7, which exists for compatibility with IRCAM, but it's clearly wrong. (There's no way mapping 13.3 from 0-127 to -1 to 1 should result in something so close to -1. Just try a few different exponents and you'll see that there's a bug in t

[PD] Random thoughts after 1 year with PD

2015-06-19 Thread William Huston
This is coming up on my first year as a PD hacker. Having so much fun. I think I'm obsessed. One thing I am really digging about PD is that after 1 year, I feel I have a basic grasp of about 20% of the PD objects (i think I am including extended here) and maybe 60% of the paradigm. * Even with

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho via Pd-list
Hi Alexandre, > it almost is, but in maxlib you just turn the mapping to log on or off, in max you specify a log parameter. That is a very handy feature! > by the way, I'm pretty sure I'm not doing anything wrong, and the given equation in Max just seems to be wrong Yep, just double checke

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> the object you describe sounds to me identical to [maxlib/scale] it almost is, but in maxlib you just turn the mapping to log on or off, in max you specify a log parameter. I did share a patch in text and attached. Not sure if everyone gets the attachment so I sent the text file as well, but he

Re: [PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho via Pd-list
Hi Alexandre, On 20/06/15 00:39, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: Here's my patch with that formula into expr. The output with the parameters I have should be -0.997347 - as that's the output I get in Max. But instead, it's giving -0.994694... Would you care to share your parameters so we c

[PD] help cloning max's scale

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Howdy, so I'm cloning the scale object from Max, to make an object and include in the cyclone library. It converts range input (low_in / high_in) to a range output (low_out / high_out). It has a logarithmic curve for rescaling according to a fifth argument/inlet. I did copy into expr the formula de

Re: [PD] wiimote

2015-06-19 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
On 06/19/2015 02:11 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 06/19/2015 04:33 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: Hi, This is likely because you are using a newer version of the wiimote that has motionplus embedded and the supporting libcwiid library wiimote object relies on does not support that version. For the

Re: [PD] wiimote

2015-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/19/2015 04:33 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: > Hi, > > This is likely because you are using a newer version of the wiimote that > has motionplus embedded and the supporting libcwiid library wiimote object > relies on does not support that version. For the time being your only > choice is to use old

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> It could be my limited knowledge of how to handle real library objects. Now that you've mentioned, that seems about right :) I know nothing about how to handle it too, but I believe it'd be quite trivial to load them without declaring it like that. And there'd be no need to split them into many

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> But please do not work on cyclone and > break the Max/MSP compatibility. Howdy... Of course! Agreed! But not sure about the purpose of this remark considering what was being discussed with [rampsmooth~] and all - it was for the sake of compatibility. We're actually being very strict to make it e

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
About maintaining cyclone, I think a reorg would be great, and further maintenance as well. If you want to do whatever you want with it, then just make a fork and work on it as a new name. If you want to stick to cyclone's central goal of Max/MSP compatibility, then keep working on it as cyclone

Re: [PD] wiimote

2015-06-19 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Hi, This is likely because you are using a newer version of the wiimote that has motionplus embedded and the supporting libcwiid library wiimote object relies on does not support that version. For the time being your only choice is to use older version of the wiimote. HTH Best, Ico On Jun 19, 20

[PD] wiimote

2015-06-19 Thread Richard Millig
hi all, this is my first post here, so please give me feedback, if you need more information. so here's my issue: i'm trying to connect my wii motionplus with the wiimote object. after pressing 1 and 2 and sending the message "connect B8:AE:6E:55:35:2B" (this is the mac-adress, which i found

Re: [PD] Patch acting weird with Pd 0.46.6

2015-06-19 Thread Pierre Massat
Dear all, Sorry I forgot to reply. Thank you all for your inputs. I've learned something. @IOhannes : I've used an array instead as suggested. Cheers, Pierre. 2015-06-10 17:15 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig : > On 06/02/2015 11:10 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: > > PS : I've been using the new text an

Re: [PD] is mass "music and audio by sequences of samples"?

2015-06-19 Thread Julian Brooks
"Could you please describe what you understand by this leap?" Still 1st impression - not read the article properly yet. It seems to be proposing a complete reversal of most things I've been taught in the study of electronic music. That as far as the computers concerned data is data - all noise. I

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 17:41 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > You are sure you don't want to upgrade? :-). > > > not to extended 43, thanks ;) Not that it matters much after all, but I'm still curious: What is worse in Pd-extended 0.43 than 0.42? Roman ___