Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Jaime Oliver
The scarlett 18i20 will get you 10 analog and 8 adat outs. It works with linux, but you have to setup the hardware on OS X/windows. best, J > On May 6, 2016, at 4:51 PM, michael noble wrote: > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 2:27 AM, Miller Puckette > wrote: > One caveat: you

Re: [PD] Gem via deken?

2016-05-06 Thread Max
I used to start the class by quickly showing how to set up Pd, now I just say, please open your computers and give me 10 minutes I'll install that for you. Get Pd, then download deken and install that, download Gem on OS X, download the missing Deja vu font on Windows... It's too complicated and wi

Re: [PD] Gem via deken?

2016-05-06 Thread Dan Wilcox
Maybe then the issue is more that the deken Gem build doesn’t work for newer OSXs. Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com > On May 6, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Matt Barber wrote: > > Hmm. Works f

Re: [PD] Gem via deken?

2016-05-06 Thread Dan Wilcox
Hrmm I wonder what’s going on? There isn’t any useful error messages or debug info telling me why it doesn't load. have a friend who now cannot teach Pd+Gem right now since Gem plainly doesn’t work via deken currently :( Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatik

Re: [PD] Gem via deken?

2016-05-06 Thread Max
No, Gem via deken on OSX never worked for me. Does on Windows and Linux without problems though. On 2016년 05월 07일 01:11, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Has anyone been able to get Gem to load after installing with deken? > I’ve tried with the test releases as well as a custom build, setting > path and lib a

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread michael noble
On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 2:27 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: > One caveat: you probably can't sync these together, so you will > occasionally > get an audio error on output as Pd 'resyncs' them. There are various > ways of working around this. > Probably the simplest way under linux is to use Fons Ad

[PD] Controlling VLC from PureData Vanilla.

2016-05-06 Thread Mario Mey
Here is the patch: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37052150/how-to-control-vlc-from-pd-vanila-0-46-with-native-network-system Thanks everybody. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Mario Mey
Ok, thanks for clarify! I get what I was looking for. When I make the patch "nice, clean and tidy", I'll post on stackoverflow, where I posted a question. Thanks everybody! El 06/05/16 a las 15:08, IOhannes m zmölnig escribió: On 05/06/2016 02:45 PM, Mario Mey wrote: The connection is we

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Mario Mey
I understand this ";" at the end of the message... but I found something that I do call bug. In text-object-help.pd, inside [pd tolist] and [pd fromlist], there's this message box: [this is a message \; this is another 1 ... \;( Inside the file, it is: ... #X msg 81 115 list this is a messa

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 12:46 -0300, Mario Mey wrote: > Jack, thank you for this patch. It works. Also thanks to Patrice... but > I want to make it easy. > > Now, I would want to know how to reproduce l2s with Vanilla (I'm trying > to use only Vanilla). > > ... and there's something else: If I se

Re: [PD] [ot] threat of pure data

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Pure poetry! cheers Miller On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:18:35AM -0700, Peter Nyboer wrote: > Sometimes I wish pd had a more search-engine friendly name (could be worse, > like “max” or something!), but then such gems like this turn up > > "And some music executives openly worry that discounting t

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Didn't know this one :D ++ Jack Le 06/05/2016 20:19, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > On 05/06/2016 08:16 PM, Jack wrote: >> Of course, to get decimal, you can use [makefilename %f] but in this >> case, you got a symbol very different : >> >> Your float : float 0.19 >> The symbol you get : symbol

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 05/06/2016 08:16 PM, Jack wrote: > Of course, to get decimal, you can use [makefilename %f] but in this > case, you got a symbol very different : > > Your float : float 0.19 > The symbol you get : symbol 0.19 [makefilename %g] gfrdsa IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

[PD] [ot] threat of pure data

2016-05-06 Thread Peter Nyboer
Sometimes I wish pd had a more search-engine friendly name (could be worse, like “max” or something!), but then such gems like this turn up "And some music executives openly worry that discounting their expertise for pure data would threaten their jobs and result in “a horrible, soulless, robot

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Of course, to get decimal, you can use [makefilename %f] but in this case, you got a symbol very different : Your float : float 0.19 The symbol you get : symbol 0.19 With the abstraction [float2symbol] you will get : symbol 0.19 ++ Jack Le 06/05/2016 20:05, Jack a écrit : > Hello Joel, >

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 05/06/2016 02:45 PM, Mario Mey wrote: > The connection is well done, but I discovered that the messages arrives > with a ";" at the end of the message. this is the format that Pd messages are transmitted in. it is not a bug, but called FUDI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUDI both applicati

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Hello Joel, [makefilename %d] is OK if you send an integer like 1 or 25487. But if you send something like 254.56, you only get [symbol 254(. That's why, i made this abstraction ;) ++ Jack Le 06/05/2016 19:28, Joel Matthys a écrit : > Another option is to use [makefilename %d] in place of this

Re: [PD] more help file suggestions for pd 0.47

2016-05-06 Thread me.grimm
Hello, [makefilename] N-Tuple substitution example :) m On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > So i did browse though all the help files again to see if I could find > anything else, here it is: > > [%], [mod] and [div] call the otherbinops-help file, but none of the

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Joel Matthys
Another option is to use [makefilename %d] in place of this [float2symbol] abstraction. But I've never seen this clever abstraction. Thanks Jack! Joel On 05/06/2016 12:20 PM, Jack wrote: Forget an abstraction (float2symbol). ++ Jack Le 06/05/2016 19:15, Jack a écrit : Can you send a full

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
On caveat: you probably can't sync these together, so you will occasionally get an audio error on output as Pd 'resyncs' them. There are various ways of working around this. Maybe the best way in your particular situation is to have two copies of Pd and use netsend/receive to sync them at message

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Forget an abstraction (float2symbol). ++ Jack Le 06/05/2016 19:15, Jack a écrit : > Can you send a full output from [netsend -b] ? > To get your message line by line, you must recreate the chain by > accumulating numerical values until a 10 or/and 13 comes. For this a > [route 10 13] (to do som

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Can you send a full output from [netsend -b] ? To get your message line by line, you must recreate the chain by accumulating numerical values until a 10 or/and 13 comes. For this a [route 10 13] (to do something when a 10 or 13 comes), [list prepend] (to accumulate) and [list] (to store accumulatio

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
I will change the position of the sounds in the theatre space (it will depend on the position of the dancers on stage, and other things). I guess the LP 16 Live Player is not the interface for this purpose ? ++ Jack Le 06/05/2016 17:21, patrice colet a écrit : > Maybe you don't want a soundcard

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
That's correct behavior. The earlier behavior (in which owning patches saved declarations made inside abstractions) was in error. I believe old patches will still work, but yes, if you re-save an old patch using a new version of Pd you'll have to add the appropriate "declare" object to the owning

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep, the "DSP" button now resizes accorging to the Pd window's font size (before it was a fixed size). That's so that people with very high resolution screens can see it. cheers Miller On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 01:53:43AM -0700, Derek Kwan wrote: > > Sorry for the noise - > > > > I broke the varia

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-06 Thread Christof Ressi
Also, the serializer example in the [list] help patch is a bit dangerous, because the recursion will easily cause a stack overflow for longer lists :-). Maybe make a second serializer example with the iterative approach (although not linear in time either) could be added? Plus a hint to [list-dr

[PD] Gem via deken?

2016-05-06 Thread Dan Wilcox
Has anyone been able to get Gem to load after installing with deken? I’ve tried with the test releases as well as a custom build, setting path and lib at startup, etc and the best I can get is "gemglutwindow could not create”. This is on OSX. Other externals work fine. Dan Wilcox @dano

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-06 Thread Christof Ressi
Hi Miller, I just discovered another minor bug. In the help patch for [list] it says: "In general, inlets that take lists (two each for append/prepend, and one each for split and trim) will convert non-list messages (such as "set 5") to lists (such as "list set 5" automatically.)" The recentl

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Mario Mey
Jack, thank you for this patch. It works. Also thanks to Patrice... but I want to make it easy. Now, I would want to know how to reproduce l2s with Vanilla (I'm trying to use only Vanilla). ... and there's something else: If I send "playlist" to VLC, the right outlet of [netsend -b] prints t

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread patrice colet
Maybe you don't want a soundcard but a good multitrack player for interpreting Pierre Henry pieces, something like this: https://audiosex.pro/threads/cymatic-lr-lp-16.23833/ it's about 320€ Le 06/05/2016 à 16:40, Jack a écrit : Thanks a lot for your answers. If i understand, i have many sol

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Peter Venus
well, if it should be on the cheap side, and the need for usb because of a lacking pcmcia/expresscard is present, there there are logilink ua0099 available, which are offering 8ch output for 23euros i bought some here: http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/MDUyODcyOTk-/Computer_Informationstechnik/USB_Tech

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Thanks a lot for your answers. If i understand, i have many solutions to achieve my goal : - buy 1 soundcard, for exemple : - MOTU 24Ao AVB which is class complient : good news for linux users) - Presonus VSL1818 with a ADAT 8-channel DAC (Roman, do you have a link for this with jack conn

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread patrice colet
Hi, attached is some workaround for controlling VLC, one using [tcpclient], and another one using dbus-send. Both uses tcl for scripting with [hc/sys_gui] patco Le 06/05/2016 à 15:51, Jack a écrit : Hello, Now, with Pd 0.46.7 you have [netsend -b]. It allows you to send a string in 'binar

[PD] New version of sigpack available via deken

2016-05-06 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi All, I just completed the upload of an updated version of sigpack to puredata.info, and it is available via deken. I contacted Martin Weiß and he is ok with this release, but please send the bug-reports to me. Apart from the restyled help-patches, I fixed some issues. Summary release note

Re: [PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Jack
Hello, Now, with Pd 0.46.7 you have [netsend -b]. It allows you to send a string in 'binary' mode (you don't need anymore to use the FUDI protocol used by netsend before). Then, something like : [list add file.mp4( | [l2s] <- from zexy library (there is vanilla solution for this) | [list fromsym

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread patrice colet
If it's just about having 16 channels DAC, using two C-media CM6206 soundcards should be enough but you might need direct input boxes if the amplifiers are not just beside the computer, I tried this chipset and it works good on a pcduino2 and Pd with 8 channels, no glitches, it should works as

[PD] [netsend] bug?

2016-05-06 Thread Mario Mey
Hi, there. I'm trying to use PureData 0.46.7 to control VLC. Based on a patch in https://github.com/mxa/AudioVideoPatches, that uses Python code (pyext) to send TCP messages, I want to use [netsend] to send them, without Python. I start VLC with: vlc -I rc --rc-host=localhost:1234 And, in Pd

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Simon Iten
or get yourself an old rme multiface hdsp card, eight analog outputs and eight adat… you will need an old laptop with pcmcia or a new one with express card (or a macbook with thunderbolt and an adatper) rme cards are good quality and quite cheaply secondhand (200 $) > On 06 May 2016, at 14:08,

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread William Huston
The Motu is $1000. The Presonus is $500. What about getting 8x 2-channel USB soundcards? The Griffin iMic is a 2x2 and is $40. So 8x would be $320. If you look around, you can find 2ch USB audio adapters for $20/each, $10/each, even $2/each. For that kind of money you could purchase a few and eval

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
Though probably not such a good match as the MOTU mentioned below, I may mention here that the Presonus VSL1818 is supported by Linux/ALSA. For 16 analog output channels, you'd have to hook up some ADAT 8-channel DAC. Also, I don't know of any support of its internal mixer (probably it is not supp

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-05-06 Thread rolfm
this my pd file : #N struct 1011-symarray float x array symbols 1011-sym; #N struct 1011-sym symbol name float on; #N canvas 235 0 1120 645 10; #X declare -path ./abs-pd; #X obj 37 113 fred-links; i open it with Vanilla (latest test version), add a [i], and save. this is the saved file: #N str

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-06 Thread Derek Kwan
> Sorry for the noise - > > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4 > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual. > > cheers > Miller > Hello, I'm not sure if it matters all that much but "DSP" in the Pd window next to the checkbox is differe

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Peter Venus
hello i am rather happy with the motu 24Ao AVB. it offers 24 analog outputs plus 3 adat i/o. it is class compliant usb and its mixer can be accessed via browser. it offers 64in/64out@48kHz on the usb. so generally, to find a suitable interface, i would look if it's class compliant. cheers pet