Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 11/19/21 21:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: but you can create gatoms with dynamic patching, right? of course. dynamic patching is just a way to (ab)use the patch loading mechanis outside of patch loading. so: whatever you can save into a patch can also be dynamically patched. (never t

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 16:00, Christof Ressi escreveu: > I think the reason is that the IEM GUI objects have been designed as > externals and just happened to get included into Pd vanilla. yup gatoms, on the other hand, are really built-in objects and are created > via dedicated canvas

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Christof Ressi
That's certainly a more friendly approach :-) On 19.11.2021 22:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: in my external GUIs I use flags so users can set just what they want without filling in all the arguments and remembering the order, as in iemguis Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 18:13, Christof R

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
in my external GUIs I use flags so users can set just what they want without filling in all the arguments and remembering the order, as in iemguis Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 18:13, Christof Ressi escreveu: > > And finally, to complicate things further, arguments would be also a > > nice feat

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Christof Ressi
And finally, to complicate things further, arguments would be also a nice feature to have in typed gatoms: limits, send/rcv, labels, or array name, size, etc That's actually a good argument. With IEM GUIs, the argument list is so long that it is not really practical to type it out, but with gat

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
but you can create gatoms with dynamic patching, right? Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 17:11, Fede Camara Halac < camaraf...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > Here's my 2 cents, if I understand porres' question right. > > Personally, I always type iemgui names, to be honest. But, I think typing > "floatat

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Fede Camara Halac
Here's my 2 cents, if I understand porres' question right. Personally, I always type iemgui names, to be honest. But, I think typing "floatatom" or "symbolatom" (or "listbox") into an object would be cumbersome at first glance, and we would need an alias to make it worth. In that sense, thei

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Christof Ressi
I think he means creating a gatom by typing something in an object box. Like you said, you can create a nbx2 with [nbx] or a bang with [bng], but there is no way to do that for gatoms. I think the reason is that the IEM GUI objects have been designed as externals and just happened to get inclu

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 19. November 2021 19:38:39 MEZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres : >Hi, I wonder what's the reasoning to not be able to load something like a >gatom from an object. of course you can. after all nbx2 is just that: an 'object' that behaves like a gatom. OTOH I might not fully grasp what you mean

Re: [PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread José de Abreu
you mean something like typing [msg bang] and getting a [bang( or the same with number/symbol/list box? that would be great Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 15:42, Alexandre Torres Porres escreveu: > Hi, I wonder what's the reasoning to not be able to load something like a > gatom from an object. >

[PD] why not adding other boxes like gatom from objects?

2021-11-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, I wonder what's the reasoning to not be able to load something like a gatom from an object. this is more of a curiosity. I'd like to be able to do that, but I don't have a compelling case/reasoning cheers ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBS

Re: [PD] Hide backslash escapes in symbol atoms

2021-11-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2021-11-19 at 11:51 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > Probably the best would be to have delimiters a display property of > the > list-box, rather than of the text itself. > as in the attached mockup. Sweet. +1! Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message p

Re: [PD] Hide backslash escapes in symbol atoms

2021-11-19 Thread Christof Ressi
intuitively i would prefer something less ugly than '\ ', e.g. "␣". As I've written elsewhere: as simple rule could be "show what you type". In a list box (and many other objects) you have to explicitly type '\' to get a whitespace inside a symbol, so I think it's also fine to display it as suc

Re: [PD] Hide backslash escapes in symbol atoms

2021-11-19 Thread Antoine Rousseau
> > what's a "numeric character"? > I guess [0123456789.e] ? Le ven. 19 nov. 2021 à 11:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : > > On 11/19/21 10:02, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > > - in a float atom, no space at all is allowed... (BTW wouldn't it be a > nice > > addition to filter the keyboard input t

Re: [PD] Hide backslash escapes in symbol atoms

2021-11-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/19/21 10:02, Antoine Rousseau wrote: - in a float atom, no space at all is allowed... (BTW wouldn't it be a nice addition to filter the keyboard input to only numeric characters in the "number" context?...) what's a "numeric character"? > - in a list atom, space is the delimiter, so if

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Re: [PD] Hide backslash escapes in symbol atoms

2021-11-19 Thread Antoine Rousseau
OK Roman and Christof, after some reflection I think now you are right, to assume different behaviors for different contexts! - in a symbol atom, a space would be implicitly part of the symbol (if this is accepted); - in a list atom, space is the delimiter, so if you want an actual space it has to