Re: [PD] will 64bit Pd solve large table indexing issue?

On 3/1/22 11:43, Peter P. wrote: Hi, will a 64bit Pd what's a "64bit Pd"? fgmadrs IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredat

Re: [PD] should 'flags' always come first?

On 2/28/22 17:47, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I know, that's because they should come first! This is why I think it's confusing that sigmund~ doesn't complain and it just works... i doubt that it is confusing. but: if you do find it confusing, just put the flags at the beginning. it's not l

Re: [PD] [midifile]

On 2/10/22 10:30, Roman Haefeli wrote: 2) I believe it's more valuable if people do not fanning connections because they understand their implications rather than because a message tells them to avoid them. but maybe they can be made aware of the implications if they were made explicit. 3)

[PD] fan-out (was Re: Pd-list Digest, Vol 203, Issue 12)

hi. it would be super-cool if you could change the subject to something meaningful before replying to a digest mail. On 2/10/22 14:39, Samuel Burt wrote: Having used Pd for two decades, this still catches me occasionally. I was that's the reason why i think that statements like "Fanning ou

Re: [PD] [midifile]

On 2/10/22 12:53, Dan Wilcox wrote: I feel like often these problems also come from people trying Pd out after being more familiar with Max. Perhaps it would be good if Pd included a mini "Pd for Max users" guide which starts with execution order differences, hmm. i'd prefer a "tip-of-the-day

Re: [PD] [command] output

On 2/2/22 09:04, martin brinkmann wrote: On 01/02/2022 22:25, Roman Haefeli wrote: As I tried to explain previously, this is expected behavior in Pd land. yes, but the float is coming out of the leftmost output, and this only happens when the commands output is a number (and only a number).

Re: [PD] What does this element do on the Pd-Window?

On 2/1/22 16:50, Christof Ressi wrote: It switches to "Audio On" if DSP is ticked. Not particularly useful to be honest. and if you turn it off? this label is *not* a status indicator for the DSP engine. There is also the "I/O Error" message that appears on some backends when dropouts occur

[PD] What does this element do on the Pd-Window?

i just stumbled upon this "Audio Off" label in the Pd-console (mostly because i have been annoyed for the past few years that has a fixed font size), and i have seriously no idea what it is supposed to tell me. i have even consulted the Pd manual, but it doesn't even mention it. could anybod

Re: [PD] ggee shell does not work in 0.52

On 1/27/22 10:10, martin brinkmann wrote: thanks, i'll do that. i used [shell] basically for getting a random-seed (and filenames) via date, and it affects only a few patches, and should be easy to change to [command]. if you need to read the date, you probably should use zexy's [date] (resp

Re: [PD] ggee shell does not work in 0.52

On 1/26/22 10:21, martin brinkmann wrote: or at least getting something from stdout does not work anymore. (everything is fine in older versions (0.51 and below). example: the shell help-patch "getting the date". it receives a bang from the right outlet, but nothing from the left outlet. ggee i

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

On 1/26/22 00:03, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: but once we have it available, we can star providing those :) that's a false conclusion. - for providing a Darwin_arm64 external you need a compiler that can produce such binaries - you do *not* need a Darwin_arm64 Pd for compilation¹ theref

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

On 1/24/22 17:18, Dan Wilcox wrote: There was an issue with building Tk Wish 8.6.12 as a universal build which stopped this for now. no. this is not really true, and more importantly i think it spreads confusion. the truth (according to john) is: - for newer macOS versions, miller uses binari

Re: [PD] permute lists?

On 1/14/22 08:09, Peter P. wrote: Thanks José! This works really nicely and I am still trying to understand how this is done! similar to how you would create a randomly permutated list: - pick a random element from the input list and append it to the output list - repeat until the input list is

Re: [PD] Store data in memory more efficiently than in arrays

On 1/13/22 15:41, José de Abreu wrote: Roman, maybe you could use iem16? [...] [table16] uses only 16bit (2bytes) to store the values, which is half of the memory." So maybe it is exactly what you need? i don't really think so. afaict, roman is mainly concerned about a *potential waste* of

Re: [PD] Pager : list patches using [file] and open them

On 12/22/21 01:11, Jérôme Abel wrote: Hi list, Thank for this new Pd release ! I'm trying to implement the [+pager] patch from Hans Christoph Steiner with these new features : [file glob], [file splitname] and [list store]. It is a patch which list all pd files in  the current directory, clo

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

On 12/16/21 15:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: First, replying to emails from pd-announce sends to 'pd-l...@iem.at' and not 'pd-list@lists.iem.at', which results in undeliverable messages that return back. thanks for finding the long lost reference to the old and outdated address. it's now

Re: [PD] Testing Pd builds with JACK

On 12/16/21 11:08, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i don't know just to be sure: what i suggested is in no way canonical. i only discovered that there is this jack2-osx-files.txt file and it seems to contain a ("the"?) list of files installed by the package. i guess the only

Re: [PD] Testing Pd builds with JACK

On 12/16/21 10:20, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2021-12-16 at 10:05 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: I usually wiped * all jack* binaries in /usr/local/bin * /usr/local/include/jack directory I forgot to mention /usr/local/lib/libjack* (those are probably the most crucial when it comes to Pd d

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

On 12/14/21 14:45, Christof Ressi wrote: 2. turn on "callbacks" in Pd's audio settings (it seems that this is required on macOS) Are you sure? i'm not sure at all. however, i'm testing mostly with the "dummy" backend (rather than a "real" soundcard-based backend like "coreaudio"), and in m

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

On 12/14/21 13:49, Csaba Láng wrote: Iohannes, I tested jack on Big Sur (11.6.1) but looks like no audio is coming out. [image: Screenshot 2021-12-14 at 13.46.31.png] Output device must be the same as input, I cannot change it in Pd. Portaudio works fine but Jack is without sound. 1. make sur

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

On 12/13/21 22:06, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > > once it finished building, the dmg will be available on > > could you please be so kind and test with that version as well? my first tests show that

Re: [PD] Vanilla: getting the content of a folder

On 12/14/21 09:58, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote: Dear all I am banging my head against the wall, trying to get [openpanel 1] to give me the content of the folder in question. I was hoping that I could: - use [textfile]’s read to get the content of the folder somehow - use [text define xx]’

[PD] JACK on macOS (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released)

On 12/13/21 14:56, William Brent wrote: If I then start Dan's most recent build of test3 (Pd-0.52-0test3-x86_64-jack.app) from this email thread, choosing "jack" from the Media menu results in no error and "pure_data" shows up in the JACK connection graph. thanks for the info. i'm having a b

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

On 12/13/21 11:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hmm, which dmg? my plan was: - download the .tgz ah. re-reading your emails i see: On 12/12/21 23:01, Dan Wilcox wrote: > I use the distribution from http://jack.org which is > equivalent to the old JackOSX distribution: &

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

On 12/13/21 10:53, Dan Wilcox wrote: FYI IOhannes: For a project at work which uses JACK, I set up the build system to download the prebuilt JACK dmg and extract it to a local build directory. This seems to work fine for both building *and* distribution as user systems which have (non-homebr

Re: [PD] Hide backslash escapes in symbol atoms

On 11/19/21 10:02, Antoine Rousseau wrote: - in a float atom, no space at all is allowed... (BTW wouldn't it be a nice addition to filter the keyboard input to only numeric characters in the "number" context?...) what's a "numeric character"? > - in a list atom, space is the delimiter, so if

Re: [PD] Pd-0.52-0 macOS universal build (prerelease)

On 11/10/21 4:58 PM, Philip Stone via Pd-list wrote: Hi Dan, This is very much appreciated! I’m on Catalina (10.15.7). My patches seem to load mostly correctly, but one thing I notice immediately is that any object that flashes when you click it, like buttons or message boxes, stay stuck in t

Re: [PD] Pd-0.52-0 macOS universal build (prerelease)

On 11/10/21 12:52 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: Howdy all, here is a universal (x86_64, arm64) build of Pd 0.52-0 for testing: Pd-0.52-0-universal.zip This build includes Tk 8.6.12 which fixes a number of GUI bugs and should support

Re: [PD] Gem without gmerlin

On 11/2/21 4:05 PM, Csaba Láng wrote: Dear list, I am trying to compile Gem on Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS witrh pylon, but make fails with gmwerlin problem. I have found a 2 year old thread here https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2019-02/124601.html which says that it is almost impossible to m

Re: [PD] Pd without internationalization?

On 10/13/21 4:03 PM, Peter P. wrote: * Dan Wilcox [2021-10-13 12:27]: Yes, it's on my list (and IOhannes' as well). It would most likely be something that you change, then have to restart Pd, but that would still be better than editing the distribution or run scripts. I would imagine the sett

Re: [PD] list of Pd forks?

On 10/6/21 4:46 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but as I see it, Pd-Extended started as a "distro", then it evolved to a proper fork with parallel/independent development. not really. Pd-extended was *always* closely related to the development of Pd-vanilla, a

Re: [PD] list of Pd forks?

On 10/5/21 4:12 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: That's it, right? Did I miss something? github lists 172 "forks" (in the github-meaning of the word). it seems that none of them have bothered to change the name, so the repos are still called "pure-data" "many" (but it's hard to give actual

Re: [PD] list of Pd forks?

On 10/6/21 10:16 AM, Christof Ressi wrote: FWIW, I wouldn't consider pd-iem a fork, either. IMO, adding a bunch of plugins doesn't qualify as a fork. I think a better word would be "distro". Actually, that's how the project describes itself: "is a Pure Data libraries distribution for plain Pur

Re: [PD] list of Pd forks?

On 10/5/21 4:12 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: hi folks, I'm writing a text about Pd's history and I want to get things right. I'm mentioning Pd forks and woulldn't like to miss any, but then some might be not worth mentioning? I don't, here's what I know and have - DesireData - Pd Extended

Re: [PD] list of Pd forks?

On 10/6/21 2:33 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em ter., 5 de out. de 2021 às 19:12, IOhannes m zmölnig escreveu: so what's you definition of a "fork"? A modification of the source code to reflect different features. If I but the "pd-iem" has all kinds of different features, e.g. you d

Re: [PD] readsf~ questions

On 9/10/21 8:37 AM, Simon Iten wrote: hi there, I am finding conflicting (unclear) info on readsf~ behaviour. I want to loop a long 8 channel wave file. here are my questions: -once i open the file with a message and after a delay start playback and it has finished (rightmost outlet bangs), can

Re: [PD] New color format in patch source

On 9/10/21 5:07 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hey all I'm using current git master and found that the way color information of iemguis is stored in the patch file has changed. The number representing 6-bit-per-channel rgb values got replaced by a hexadecimal encoding like '#dfdfdf'. That is a huge ad

Re: [PD] [file]

On 8/31/21 3:50 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: Has this any security implications? Generally, every single external is a potential security risk since it contains arbitrary code. what i forgot to say: even with my proof-of-concept exploit (regardless of whether it actually works), i don't think t

[PD] writing exploits in Pd (Re: [file])

On 8/31/21 1:05 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: ¹ i wonder whether it would be possible (with Pd>=0.42) to create a patch that creates a gui-plugin on the fly. if this is true, then you can already do everything that [file] allows you to do - and much more. like with the attached pa

Re: [PD] [file]

On 8/31/21 12:38 PM, Ingo Stock wrote: Looks great! Has this any security implications? sure. if the user is allowed to overwrite "C:\Windows\system32\rundll32.exe" they could inject malicious code. or delete that file. however, if they are allowed to overwrite that file, they can already

Re: [PD] [file]

On 8/23/21 12:26 PM, Matt Davey wrote: oh come onspill the beans...what does it do? https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1351 gfmdasr IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing li

Re: [PD] UBUNTU - problem with pd vanilla externals

On 8/9/21 2:07 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hopefully i'll be able to provide a fix in the Ubuntu/focal repositories in the next few days. ok, we are almost there. however, *your* help is required to make the final steps. a fixed version of puredata-extra (which provides the fa

Re: [PD] UBUNTU - problem with pd vanilla externals

On 8/9/21 12:02 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: in any case, you probably should file a bug-report against the Ubuntu package: $ reportbug puredata (otoh, i've never seen anyone working on a Pd bug in Ubuntu, so it might be better to first find someone with the actual powers) anyhow, i

Re: [PD] UBUNTU - problem with pd vanilla externals

On 8/3/21 4:01 PM, Peter P. wrote: * oliver [2021-08-03 15:57]: Christof Ressi wrote: See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/975#issuecomment-626352674. AFAICT, it's a packaging issue with that Ubuntu version. Try to build Pd from source instead. Hi, thanks for the hint ... no o

Re: [PD] DC offset - external for correcting DC offset in realtime

On 7/17/21 11:23 AM, Ingo wrote: Hi there, before I start trying to figure out something on my own I'd like to ask if someone knows of an external for removing a DC offset in realtime.+ [hip~ 8]? gfmdrs IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

(argh. one of those emails that are lingering opened on my desktop, and were never sent...here you go:) On 6/15/21 12:32 AM, Christof Ressi wrote: # error outlets Let's say if we were to consider adding some sort of "standard outlet" for errors, how many objects are we talking about? I as

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

On 6/15/21 2:42 PM, José de Abreu wrote: typos.. of course i meant [try soundfiler]... sidenote: there's already a [try] object in iemguts. it does something else (fallbacks for an object) ghmkdtf IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [PD] Find last error

On 6/15/21 9:28 AM, João Pais wrote: Hi, in parallel to the error discussion going on: the already existing "find last error" function can be quite helpful, but it doesn't always work. I didn't find any documentation for it (maybe I didn't search long enough), is it marked somewhere in which

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

On 6/14/21 4:11 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: I just shudder at the thought that users would start parsing error messages. After all, error messages are meant for display and can change at any moment. In the future, error messages might even get localized. i totally agree. I find it extremely

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

On 6/14/21 3:33 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: Here's another idea, which I don't really love, but which I would prefer over your proposed [canvaserror]: Method calls which can generate an error send the error code to a global [errno] object and the user can query the current error state with a

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

On 6/14/21 10:23 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 10:02 +0200, Peter P. wrote: I am wondering how one would parse these error messages if they came from one single object outlet to tell where the error originated from? I am wondering about that, too. Maybe a [pderror] would be

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] Scheme-for-Pd, how to release beta versions, call for testers

On 6/11/21 9:04 AM, Peter P. wrote: I need to add the scm directory to Pd's path to avoid the error messages s4pd.scm: can't open test.scm: can't open when opening s4pd-help.pd. You could try adding a [declare -path ../scm] object to the help patch perhaps (untested)? https://g

Re: [PD] cyclone 0.2beta1 wasn't showing up in deken for macOS + issues with other old versions

On 6/9/21 3:12 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em qua., 2 de jun. de 2021 às 17:13, IOhannes m zmölnig escreveu: yeah, that's what I meant, sorry, so my question was if we could rename the "v0.0extended" version of cyclone as "v0.1alpha56.extended". i don't see a reason. Cause I would t

Re: [PD] how to get big numbers from array into a file?

On 5/7/21 5:21 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: > I think this has been discussed not too long ago. > Maybe IOhannes remembers. :-) probably the discussion on [804] to recap: katja's original double-precision fixes (on which the current double-precision support is based) used different formats for

Re: [PD] shmem source

On 4/22/21 11:45 AM, iftah gabbai wrote: hey Lucas, thank you very much, i wonder if this exceeds the scope of this list but when i attempt to "make" on an rpi i get shmem.o: file not recognized: file format not recognized collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [Makefile:261: shmem

Re: [PD] OSC limitations in Vanilla

On 4/18/21 10:32 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i checked and double checked the specs but could not find anything about this. where do you get the idea that the OSC specs mandate wall clock time? OSC-1.0 speaks about "NTP format" (but this is just the structure of the 64 bits data chunk) and

Re: [PD] size and position of PD window

On 4/14/21 5:40 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: ¹ what i would wish for is that the Pd window opened up on the currently active monitor, rather than my left-most monitor, where i usually have a full-screen editor running that likes to hide my Pd) so i checked this and it seems rather

Re: [PD] size and position of PD window

On 4/14/21 4:17 PM, Philip Stone via Pd-list wrote: This is something that I manually adjust in the Wish code every time I upgrade Pd. It would be very nice to have it be a configurable setting in Preferences. why?¹ and why is there no feature-request on https://bugs.puredata.info? one possib

Re: [PD] From telnet to netreceive whole sentence

. why does it not work for you? gdmfs IOhannes On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 3:25 PM IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 3/22/21 2:52 PM, Csaba Láng wrote: Iohannes, can you explain how I can send unicodepoints to text3d? using the [string( message (see the [text3d] help-patch) e.g. [string 67 115 97

Re: [PD] From telnet to netreceive whole sentence

On 3/22/21 2:52 PM, Csaba Láng wrote: Iohannes, can you explain how I can send unicodepoints to text3d? using the [string( message (see the [text3d] help-patch) e.g. [string 67 115 97 98 97 32 76 225 110 103( the problem is mainly that what comes out of [netreceive -b] is not going to be un

Re: [PD] Trigger question

On 3/17/21 6:29 PM, adam johnson wrote: and i was only saying that just because something is implemented in such-and-such way should be of no concern. A feature not existing because of the difficulty of adding it would be one possible answer to my question, so I checked the code before coming h

Re: [PD] symbols with zero paddings and spaces

On 3/17/21 2:25 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: Note the different position of the backslash! I'm not sure if this particular escaping behavior is actually intended or just works by chance... Generally, it would be great to document Pd's string escaping, because it is not entirely obvious. somet

Re: [PD] Trigger question

On 3/17/21 9:20 AM, adam johnson wrote: I guess I was not clear, I am not using it as a loop, I was just saying that at the code level [trigger] is a for loop, so having it break would be simple to add. and i was only saying that just because something is implemented in such-and-such way shou

Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

On 3/17/21 9:34 AM, Antoine Villeret wrote: you could even think plugin 2 of them on the same board. usually you do not want to do this. you would have to synchronize the clocks of the two devices (unless you into glitch). devices that allow simple synchronisation would use something like wo

Re: [PD] Trigger question

On 3/17/21 9:39 AM, adam johnson wrote: Sometimes when using trigger I find myself needing to break out of it before it completes, simple to work up an abstraction to handle this, but it got me to wondering why trigger does not have a right inlet to stop the sequence. Looking at the code, trigger

Re: [PD] Problem with Gem

On 3/17/21 2:20 AM, Kosmas Giannoutakis wrote: Hi list, I installed the Gem library from source and everything seemed to compiled correctly. When I open pd, I get the message: [GEM:recordNDI] Please (re)install the NewTek NDI Runtimes to use this plugin. need to find the library

Re: [PD] a barrel of fun: deken v0.7.1

On 3/8/21 4:15 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I see we have a rather modest note that the library was fully and successfully installed. This easily goes away if you move your mouse over selectable libraries. deken already prints to the terminal when it can't find externals, I assume it does

Re: [PD] a barrel of fun: deken v0.7.1

On 3/8/21 8:30 AM, oliver wrote: (hopefully) fixed in deken-0.7.2, available via deken. YES ! thanks a lot ! hooray. if you notice anything weird or unusual or unexpected, now it the time for feature requests ;-) (i'll probably not be able to implement any of them, but you never know...)

Re: [PD] 2 bugs and a feature request, FYI

On 3/5/21 6:29 AM, William Huston wrote: FYI, BH - *"pd -help" produces no output, version 0.51-4 / Win7 #1280* https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1280 this issue has been resolved and closed. it's a limitation of Windows' `cmd`.exe . if you want to change it, i suggest fil

Re: [PD] can a [clone] instance determine the total number of clones?

On 3/4/21 12:23 AM, William Huston wrote: Ideally, it would be nice to change N in*one place*. I think this might be possible if the first feature was implemented. hoiw about your own little abstraction wrapper? ~~~ [inlet~] | [clone foo $1 $1 $0-] | [outlet] [array define $0-control $1] [a

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages

On 3/2/21 10:31 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: On 3/2/2021 4:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: so I would need a list of libraries to import. There might be more but these are not maintained AFAIK: adaptive arraysize bassemu~ boids chaos ekext hexloader log markex mediasettings motex

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages

On 3/1/21 10:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: If there are libraries only available with the v0.0-extended version, then I propose to give them a version proper, compile them for the architectures in use*today* and put that to Deken, along with an objects file. and first migrate those libraries to

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

On 3/1/21 10:31 PM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: On 3/1/2021 6:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I agree. Not sure if there's a "disk space concern" on the server side. there was a recent thread about excessive disk usage by some externals on this list. the gist is that disk space on deken.puredata.in

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

On 3/1/21 10:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: If there are libraries only available with the v0.0-extended version, then I propose to give them a version proper, coincidentally i wrote an email to lucas yesterday about avoiding to use the "0.0.extended" dummy-version for uploads. this was before *t

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

On 3/1/21 10:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 17:45 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: so we actually really need to reupload them, given the scenario, huh? Oh no, please don't. I'm grateful for all the effort that went into making these packages available through Deken. I

Re: [PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

On 2/26/21 8:40 PM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: We can document [...] - https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/84#issuecomment-786533931 note that this doesn't yet work with Pd-vanilla, as it requires a (tiny) bit of changes on the Pd-core side. there's a branch in the pure-data repository

Re: [PD] pduino / comport / raspberry

On 2/28/21 6:13 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: hi, will teach a course on pd+arduino+raspberry in a couple of months upload them, where are the sources? do we have actively maintained repositories? $ apt-get install pd-pduino that will install: pduino, comport and even pd itself (if you

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

On 2/26/21 10:51 AM, Winfried Ritsch wrote: @Dan: The numbering for order is a nice idea, honestly, i really dislike it (i also don't really like the [gemhead] priorities; but i can't change that now). priorities just make it *much* harder to reason about what is going on, as you don't e

[PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

hi all, i would like to change the way the "find externals" search currently works. right now, whenever you enter a simple search term (e.g. "foo"), the search will return all libraries and objects that have the string "foo" somewhere in their name. i think this is wrong, as it makes it extra

Re: [PD] detect dependencies from patch

On 2/22/21 10:06 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all Is it possible to detect dependencies from within a patch? Often people report problems without mentioning '... couldn't create' errors. Also, people not so familiar with Pd don't know what library a certain objects belongs to and maybe also don'

Re: [PD] Image from shader back to Gem

On 2/14/21 9:52 PM, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: I think the question is - within a shader, can you 'snap' an image to a texture so that it doesn't have to go back and forth between the GPU and CPU? I'm curious too... I guess there must be a way to do this... [pix_snap2tex] or, preferab

Re: [PD] moocow string2any

On 12/23/20 11:33 AM, Gilles Marivier wrote: hello, thank you. Le 23/12/2020 à 10:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 12/22/20 4:59 PM, Gilles Marivier wrote: hello, I encounter a problem regarding Pduino 0.6 with Pd vanilla 0.51-1. The digital input 7 of Arduino Nano doesn't r

Re: [PD] moocow string2any

On 12/22/20 4:59 PM, Gilles Marivier wrote: hello, I encounter a problem regarding Pduino 0.6 with Pd vanilla 0.51-1. The digital input 7 of Arduino Nano doesn't return anything. i wonder how this is related to "moocow string2any"? and have you tried pduino 0.5 with Pd-vanilla 0.51-1? and wat

Re: [PD] removedollar

On 12/17/20 1:22 PM, Csaba Láng wrote: Dear list, if there is [adddollar( is there [removedollar( too? I want to pack an unknown amount of numbers to a list, between 1-10. it can be once 5, later 3 etc. Is it possible with pd? how would [removedollar( help you here? in your problem descripti

[PD] resources required by ossia & else (was Re: deken server error?)

On 12/16/20 1:35 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: hey, been getting this error when trying to upload stuff, seems like there's a server error but only for uploading stuff, i can download just fine. that's because the server ran out of disk space. the server is a virtual machine, so i doesn't

Re: [PD] Pd 64 bits precision "for real"?

On 11/23/20 12:25 AM, Martin Peach wrote: It should be named dppd to avoid confusion imho. or pddp (or is that already taken?) when csound switched to double precision they renamed things to "csound64" (with "things" being at least the libraries that hold the engine). so i like pd64 better

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.51-3 released

On 11/16/20 12:39 AM, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce wrote: At long last... Pd 0.51-3 is out: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/ (source only) great news. could you please push the `0.51-3` tag to github, so the sources can be downloaded without much

Re: [PD] tcp-server broadcast question

On 11/10/20 2:05 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: am i right that when tcp-server does 'broadcast' a message, actually it will generate as many messages as there are connected clients? Yes, "real" broadcast/multicast only works for UDP. just to clarify: this is a limitation of the protocol (rather

Re: [PD] Installing PD-vanilla-0.51 on linux mint with apt-get

On 11/10/20 1:17 PM, Thomas Mayr wrote: Hi everybody, I'm quite new to Linux and I have a question about installing or updating PD. When i run the commands sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install puredata only PD-vanilla 0.48.1-3 will be installed. Which commands do I have to use to update to

Re: [PD] opening a unix path with writesf~ on windows hangs Pd

On 11/5/20 12:05 PM, Peter P. wrote: Hi, it seems that opening /tmp/foo.wav and starting to write into it on Windows10 from Pd 0.51.2 and DSP turned on will halt Pd after a few seconds. Is this known? that looks more like a windows issue (the underlying filesystem operations freeze; and Pd

Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

On 11/4/20 5:09 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 11/4/20 4:55 PM, Mario Buoninfante wrote: one thing I noticed, and I'm just curious not a criticism at all, it seems you can't find abstractions, only objects that are part of a library (I know that's what the label says ther

Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

On 11/4/20 4:55 PM, Mario Buoninfante wrote: one thing I noticed, and I'm just curious not a criticism at all, it seems you can't find abstractions, only objects that are part of a library (I know that's what the label says there :) ). Is that intentional? would it be possible to include them as

[PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken externals finder. https://deken.puredata.info/ highlights: - you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite browser. https://deken.puredata.info/ - as a bonus you can also see which objects a library

Re: [PD] Windows in Chinese, problem with paths

On 10/22/20 3:36 PM, Maximiliano Estudies wrote: Dear list, I am working on a project with people in China and sent them a project with a main patch and a couple of subfolders for abstractions and audio files. I'm using [declare -path abstractions] so PD finds the files relative to the main patc

Re: [PD] Checking for interest: Scheme interpreter external for PD

On 10/22/20 5:14 AM, Iain Duncan wrote: I have been kicking around the idea of trying a PD port, and wanted to check whether this sounded interesting to folks in PD land. fun fact: yesterday i updated the Snd package for Debian, and in that process I stumbled upon scheme4max. my first reacti

Re: [PD] compiling extenrals for mac 32 bits

On 10/19/20 6:24 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em seg., 19 de out. de 2020 às 06:31, Dan Wilcox escreveu: you just have to set the fat binary extension when building on macOS (and not other platforms) in your makefile: extension=d_fat Tried in the makefile and it didn't work, but then

Re: [PD] audio interface with multiple outs on raspberry pi

On 10/9/20 1:00 PM, matthew brandi wrote: This one should work as well, right? It says that its class compliant. https://www.esi-audio.com/products/gigaportex/ > been using the Gigaport eX with a Linux box for a couple of days and haven’t needed i'm not adding anything to the problem solutio

Re: [PD] else/click in conflict with method 'click' for class 'canvas' when compiling for camomile

On 10/8/20 11:04 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: But I see that overriding it is not really dangerous in any way to Pd, at least I never had any issue. it *can* be very dangerous. that is, you can completely brick Pd by overriding the right (or wrong) messages without providing sane altern

Re: [PD] else/click in conflict with method 'click' for class 'canvas' when compiling for camomile

On 10/7/20 11:12 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi, we're compiling camomile with externals from ELSE, the only issue I have is that else/click gets in conflict with an internal "click" class in Pd (which doesn't happen if it's an external), this happens because of this line of code https://g

Re: [PD] Route "1" instead of 1

On 2020-10-01 11:48, Maximiliano Estudies wrote: > Dear List, > > is there a way to tell [route] to route the symbol "1" insead of (float) 1? > I'm working with OSC and the incoming messages have a lot of numbers (like > /track/1/fxparam/1/) in the namespace. For now I have been using > > [list s

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