Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/26/21 10:51 AM, Winfried Ritsch wrote: @Dan: The numbering for order is a nice idea, honestly, i really dislike it (i also don't really like the [gemhead] priorities; but i can't change that now). priorities just make it *much* harder to reason about what is going on, as you don't e

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-26 Thread Winfried Ritsch
ot;standard paths" but sort of a > "super user search path" that can be created for you, if you want. > > If you hate this, you can click NO when it asks or disable it in the Paths > preferences, and curse me as I wrote the plugin which provides this > functionality. >

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Dan Wilcox
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:58 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:48:23 + (UTC) > From: Sebastian Shader mailto:sebfumas...@aol.com

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Sebastian Shader via Pd-list
ssues/1257) -seb -Original Message- From: Dan Wilcox To: Antoine Rousseau Cc: Pd-List Sent: Thu, Feb 25, 2021 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare] Are "-stdpath" and "-stdlib" still absolutely necessary today? If they weren't, they could be

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Dan Wilcox
> Are "-stdpath" and "-stdlib" still absolutely necessary today? If they > weren't, they could be made equivalent to "-path" and "-lib" so every choice > would work. > Maybe a startup flag could then restore the original behavior, if needed. I don't think this should be changed as there are som

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Antoine Rousseau
Well, I don't know, it seems to me that use cases where the declaration order matters (name clash, overloading...) are relatively rare, so it's rarely needed to concatenate more than a couple of paths. So maybe the index argument would be overcomplicated. I can say the same as Roman: I'm personall

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Dan Wilcox
(reposting with correct subject line) Perhaps [declare] needs an order index argument, similar to [gemhead #] to clearly specify order when required? > On Feb 25, 2021, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at > wrote: > >> Perhaps for use with "nested" c

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Philip Stone via Pd-list
Just to tie this up under the right subject, thanks for this Dan. It’s very helpful. Props also to the updates by Alex of the included docs under ‘Pd Help’, which I hadn’t remembered to look at (apropos of nothing, I forget to look at those docs because the menu heading ‘Pd Help’ has become inv

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Winfried Ritsch
Am Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2021, 11:13:28 CET schrieb Peter P.: > * Roman Haefeli [2021-02-25 11:04]: > > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 10:56 +0100, Winfried Ritsch wrote: > > > My 2 Cents: > > > > > > There is one pitfall which should be mentioned, since it happened to > > > me and > > > > > > also oth

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 11:13 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > * Roman Haefeli [2021-02-25 11:04]: > > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 10:56 +0100, Winfried Ritsch wrote: > > > My 2 Cents: > > > > > > There is one pitfall which should be mentioned, since it happened > > > to > > > me and > > > also others I wanted

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Peter P.
* Roman Haefeli [2021-02-25 11:04]: > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 10:56 +0100, Winfried Ritsch wrote: > > My 2 Cents: > > > > There is one pitfall which should be mentioned, since it happened to > > me and > > also others I wanted to teach structured Pd programming: > > > > "The order of -path stat

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 10:56 +0100, Winfried Ritsch wrote: > My 2 Cents: > > There is one pitfall which should be mentioned, since it happened to > me and > also others I wanted to teach structured Pd programming: > > "The order of -path statements matters" > > Use case: > If I want to look in

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Winfried Ritsch
My 2 Cents: There is one pitfall which should be mentioned, since it happened to me and also others I wanted to teach structured Pd programming: "The order of -path statements matters" Use case: If I want to look in specific directory first for finding objects and libraries, so I can handle

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-24 Thread Peter P.
* Philip Stone via Pd-list [2021-02-25 00:31]: > peterpar...@fastmail.com writes: > > >Don't know if > >https://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files > >is up to date and of help for you, but you might wanna check it and get > >back with

[PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-24 Thread Philip Stone via Pd-list
peterpar...@fastmail.com writes: >Don't know if >https://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files >is up to date and of help for you, but you might wanna check it and get >back with more specific questions and possibly a new email subject.