Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> It could be my limited knowledge of how to handle real library objects. Now that you've mentioned, that seems about right :) I know nothing about how to handle it too, but I believe it'd be quite trivial to load them without declaring it like that. And there'd be no need to split them into many

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 17:41 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > You are sure you don't want to upgrade? :-). > > > not to extended 43, thanks ;) Not that it matters much after all, but I'm still curious: What is worse in Pd-extended 0.43 than 0.42? Roman ___

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-18 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, > perfect, working fine in 0.42 now ;) Anything to keep the testers happy :-). > > why do you have to declare the nettles? How come they cannot be loaded > along cyclone? Is it like they are not part of cyclone anymore? it's > kinda weird, I don't get it. It could be my limited kn

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
perfect, working fine in 0.42 now ;) why do you have to declare the nettles? How come they cannot be loaded along cyclone? Is it like they are not part of cyclone anymore? it's kinda weird, I don't get it. cheers 2015-06-18 7:42 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > Hi Alexandre, > > You may try again,

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> You are sure you don't want to upgrade? :-). not to extended 43, thanks ;) but I'm testing it with vanilla 0.46-6!!! 2015-06-18 3:38 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > Hi Alexandre, > > There is a nettles-help.pd which loads the nettles library object using > [declare -lib nettles]. There may be ot

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-18 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, You may try again, I updated svn and all cyclone binaries. I get handy with this, which means I am probably almost done ;-) Fred Jan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/l

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, > "/Yes, there is: //http://puredata.info/Members/fjkraan/. But the plugin is > //very simple to use, so please try it!/" > > what if I wanna download the source? Where would it be? The source is in https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tree/trunk/externals/miXed/. Only the

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, There is a nettles-help.pd which loads the nettles library object using [declare -lib nettles]. There may be other ways to load libraries. But nettles uses the same logpost() function. You are sure you don't want to upgrade? :-). I probably remove the logposts all together. Greeting

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2015-06-17 21:04 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox : > You can build fat libs which support multiple architectures. The default > for deken is to build 32 bit and 64 bit together on OSX. > thanks, really excited about this :) hurray for everyone involved! ___ P

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
"*Yes, there is: * *http://puredata.info/Members/fjkraan/ . But the plugin is**very simple to use, so please try it!*" what if I wanna download the source? Where would it be? By the way, I was able to try the plugin, worked out fine ;) cheers 2015-06-17 13

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Jun 17, 2015, at 5:22 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres mailto:por...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage > Date: June 17, 2015 at 5:22:40 PM EDT > To: Fred Jan Kraan mailto:fj

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
" *The nettles were an original part of cyclone, but fell in disuse becausethey became part of the cyclone-library object and maxmode object. The**help patches for the nettles are still a bit minimal.*" I don't understand this, are the nettles in the new package or not? Cause I couldn't find them

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I was on extended 42. Funny that the same package works for vanilla 0.46.-6 64 bits and extended 42 32 bits, I thought that wasn't possible :) for what I see, the same externals do work on old ppc platforms as well, huh? cheers 2015-06-17 16:01 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > Hi Alexandre, > > Your

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, Your version of Pd probably predates the introduction of the logpost() function. It seemed a good idea to print an objects version number on a level normally invisable. There might be an alternative. More objects have this message. Fred Jan On 2015-06-17 07:45 PM, Alexandre Torres

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
could not load rand~ *rand~* *... couldn't create* */Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cyclone/rand~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cyclone/rand~.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _logpost* * Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
On 2015-06-17 06:34 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Cool! Not sure how to use deken yet, isn't there just a download link? Yes, there is: http://puredata.info/Members/fjkraan/. But the plugin is very simple to use, so please try it! The other part of the deken suite is for compiling and up

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Cool! Not sure how to use deken yet, isn't there just a download link? cheers 2015-06-17 10:44 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > Hi All, > > The latest binary distributions for cyclone are available for download > with the cool deken-plugin found at https://github.com/pure-data/deken. > > Any remarks

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi All, The latest binary distributions for cyclone are available for download with the cool deken-plugin found at https://github.com/pure-data/deken. Any remarks on either the cyclone distribution or the deken-plugin are welcome on the list. The nettles were an original part of cyclone, but fel

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-12 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, >> I try to keep the current state of cyclone here: >> http://puredata.info/downloads/cyclone/releases/0.1-alpha55 >> (never mind the 55, it wouldn't go away). > > hmm, but I see it still has alpha55 there Finally I found a way to create an 0.1-alpha57 page, so it is now more as

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> I try to keep the current state of cyclone here: > http://puredata.info/downloads/cyclone/releases/0.1-alpha55 > (never mind the 55, it wouldn't go away). hmm, but I see it still has alpha55 there great news about the rest really excited about this update 2015-06-12 3:34 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan K

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-11 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, > Howdy, maybe this got lost amongst the millions of message I've been > sending, sorry to insist, but I'm really curious about it. > > Moreover, as long as we're on it, I've been creating some abstractions > as clones of max objects, I was able to do most of these nestles, and > a

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-11 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Howdy, maybe this got lost amongst the millions of message I've been sending, sorry to insist, but I'm really curious about it. Moreover, as long as we're on it, I've been creating some abstractions as clones of max objects, I was able to do most of these nestles, and also [scale] / [scale~] and I

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yeah, I can't load these objects for some reason, I wonder why is that, I'm on mac os and extended 42, any idea? I didn't know they were in cyclone... But I remember we discussed about them, not all of them are part of zexy actually. Zexy's only got 3 out of these, whixh are: <~, >~ and ==~ It do

[PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-07 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, The nettles are the cyclone bin-ops objects we discussed before: !-, !/, ==~, !=~, <~, <=~, >~, >=~, !-~, !/~, %~, +=~ They are part of the cyclone library object, which may or may not be part of your distribution. The source code is in externals/miXed/cyclone/shadow/nettles.c, hence