Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-10 Thread s p
Wow!!! I didn't know about web assembly!!! This said, We're not there yet, there will be probably a lot of opposition, like there was with asm.js (people saying we should rather optimize JS engines, as there is apparently lots lots of room for improvement). Also, writing browser code fully in C++

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread s p
@julian and @chris :) Thanks for the thought provoking message ;) On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: > Hi Seb, > > On 08/09/15 14:47, s p wrote: > >> so I chose pragmatism over purity >> > > That makes a lot of sense. You thought carefully about the best

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread s p
Awesome :D I need to put things in order with WebPd, as I was saying in previous posts. But then it'd be awesome to work on this with you!!! In fact I was talking with other people in the Web Audio community, cause there's no good JS dsp library. So basically that would really fill-up a gap in

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread Joe White
Sounds totally rad! On 9 September 2015 at 11:32, s p wrote: > Awesome :D > > I need to put things in order with WebPd, as I was saying in previous > posts. But then it'd be awesome to work on this with you!!! In fact I was > talking with other people in the Web Audio

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread s p
@Robert : yes ... nacl is dead. And plugins are problematic. Probably a plugin wouldnt work on iphone for a start, and you would need to implement the plugin for many platforms ... and people need to install it etc. Plugins are a bit 2000 ;) flash and java and friends they are going to

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread s p
> This is the exactly what we do in Heavy. is it? I somehow thought that you compile a patch with emscripten to a monolithic asmjs piece of code? What I mean is that with asm.js you can have very small modular functions that are asm.js optimized and called by some JS code that is not asm. For

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread Joe White
The Heavy library part is all MIT licence for non-commercial projects. Basically a modular asm.js dsp library? Let's do it! On 9 September 2015 at 11:24, s p wrote: > And when is Heavy open-source ;) so I could use all this niceness? > Or what about open-sourcing something

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-09 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi, On 09/09/15 17:41, s p wrote: Plugins are a bit 2000 ;) flash and java and friends they are going to disappear sooner or later Also Javascript: https://brendaneich.com/2015/06/from-asm-js-to-webassembly/#buried-lede At least, JS will probably become relatively less popular as the

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread s p
dammit ... JavaScript bug on my website maybe? This pure - and ugly - html version should work : http://funktion.fm/post/present-and-future-of-webpd On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Julian Brooks wrote: > THis all sounds very interesting, unfortunately this: >

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread s p
> When I handed WebPd over to you, one feature that was important to me was to have WebPd work as a system where you could take an existing Pd patch and be pretty sure it would sound and work the same And I agreed with this goal of yours! Only if you remember, these were different times. Web

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread Julian Brooks
THis all sounds very interesting, unfortunately this: http://funktion.fm/#post/present-and-future-of-webpd is still devoid of text on my machine (what the deuce!:) On 8 September 2015 at 07:47, s p wrote: > > When I handed WebPd over to you, one feature that was important to

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread Robert Esler
Hi Sébastien, I’m curious, was a plugin (e.g., PPAPI) or Chrome native client ever considered? Such as how Unity encapsulates it’s projects in a NPAPI plugin. Most of these SDKs are C/C++ so it could theoretically circumvent the need for Web Audio API and also use some of Pd’s native code.

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Also-- what about compiling libpd using emscripten? -Jonathan On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 1:00 AM, "pured...@11h11.com" wrote: >  I’m curious, was a plugin (e.g., PPAPI) or Chrome native client  > ever considered? In 2013, Google announced that they would

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread Julian Brooks
Hey Seb. Good informative post, thanks for that. It does seem you're taking the right approach to this dilemma. Think too you're being a bit hard on yourself - I wouldn't describe the list of objects implemented with native audio nodes as 'not much' at all! Quite the opposite. Conceptually,

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-08 Thread Chris McCormick
On 09/09/15 11:13, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: Also-- what about compiling libpd using emscripten? Do it! Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread Joe White
yeah I had the same issue The link takes me through facebook and then there isn't actually any content (aside from a facebook share button :D ) On 7 September 2015 at 15:36, s p wrote: > didn't get that Bastiaan ... is there something wrong with the link? > > On Mon, Sep 7,

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
Exactly the same here On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Joe White wrote: > yeah I had the same issue > > The link takes me through facebook and then there isn't actually any > content (aside from a facebook share button :D ) > > On 7 September 2015 at 15:36, s p

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
Real link without facederp tracking; http://funktion.fm/#post/present-and-future-of-webpd (actually, there is 0 text on page?) On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:14 PM, s p wrote: > Hello Pd list! After receiving many questions, I decided to write a little > post to explain about the

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread s p
didn't get that Bastiaan ... is there something wrong with the link? On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > Real link without facederp tracking; > http://funktion.fm/#post/present-and-future-of-webpd > > (actually, there is 0 text on page?) > > On Mon,

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread Max
That problem can be avoided by following the netiquette, see text vs. HTML mail http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette On 2015년 09월 08일 06:33, s p wrote: > Aaah got it ... damn facebook. So as Bastiaan said that's the real link > : http://funktion.fm/#post/present-and-future-of-webpd >

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On 08/09/15 10:49, Chris McCormick wrote: I am glad to see it live on with somebody who codes as energetically as you chr15m: 98 commits / 8,028 ++ / 1,712 -- sebpiq: 253 commits / 322,207 ++ / 250,725 -- Lol! Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ ___

Re: [PD] Present and future of WebPd

2015-09-07 Thread s p
Aaah got it ... damn facebook. So as Bastiaan said that's the real link : http://funktion.fm/#post/present-and-future-of-webpd On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > Exactly the same here > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Joe White