[PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-30 Thread iftah gabbai
hello all, ive been experimenting with shmem (the latest one i could find in deken), it works fine as long as i use very small arrays, as soon as i try to use bigger arrays ( havent checked where the breakpoint is but more than approx 40) it doesnt and it returns "could not allocate shmem memor

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-30 Thread iftah gabbai
...perhaps i should elaborate, im trying to dump an array in the size of 1152(2 min of 96 khz audio) to another instance of PD, is it possible at all or do i have to break it to smaller chunks? On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:01 PM iftah gabbai wrote: > hello all, ive been experimenting with shme

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-30 Thread cyrille henry
hello, Do you have enough free memory on your computer? I just test on y computer, I can reproduce this error as soon as I ask an allocation bigger than the available memory on my hardware. (between 500 000 000 and 1 000 000 000 points) cheers Cyrille Le 30/01/2020 à 12:11, iftah gabbai a écri

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-30 Thread iftah gabbai
hey C, i have 16gb of ram, and if i did not completely messed up my calcs i tried to allocate 2 min of 96khz (11.520.000) thanks again! On Thu 30. Jan 2020 at 17:06, cyrille henry wrote: > hello, > > Do you have enough free memory on your computer? > I just test on y computer, I can reproduce t

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-30 Thread cyrille henry
what is your OS? Le 30/01/2020 à 17:10, iftah gabbai a écrit : hey C, i have 16gb of ram, and if i did not completely messed up my calcs i tried to allocate 2 min of 96khz (11.520.000) thanks again! On Thu 30. Jan 2020 at 17:06, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> wrote: hello, Do

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-31 Thread cyrille henry
I don't know why it fail on mac. You can try to split in smaller table, like you suggested. But you should also test it on linux first since it's your main target. c Le 30/01/2020 à 19:55, iftah gabbai a écrit : im building on mac os 10.12 and intending to run on linux(arm), i haven’t tested

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-31 Thread iftah gabbai
so it is confirmed to work on linux? if so than great :) On Fri 31. Jan 2020 at 13:58, cyrille henry wrote: > I don't know why it fail on mac. You can try to split in smaller table, > like you suggested. > But you should also test it on linux first since it's your main target. > > c > > Le 30/01

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-31 Thread Chris Clepper
MacOS used to have absurdly small values for the max SHMEM in the kernel. Not sure about the current state of the defaults though. Check posts like these for how to adjust: http://flummox-engineering.blogspot.com/2014/05/increasing-shared-memory-for-os-x.html I think there is also something in t

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-01-31 Thread cyrille henry
Le 31/01/2020 à 18:30, iftah gabbai a écrit : so it is confirmed to work on linux? if so than great :) it's working on my computer! c On Fri 31. Jan 2020 at 13:58, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> wrote: I don't know why it fail on mac. You can try to split in smaller table, lik

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-01 Thread iftah gabbai
@cyrille, i have another question if i may, i saw somewhere in the list that you write that streaming audio from pd to a subprocess with shmem is much more efficient in terms of cpu usage, is it still the case? also if i understand correctly from the docs i will then have latency of one block size

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-01 Thread iftah gabbai
@chris, thank you for that, very good piece of info! On Fri 31. Jan 2020 at 20:03, cyrille henry wrote: > > > Le 31/01/2020 à 18:30, iftah gabbai a écrit : > > so it is confirmed to work on linux? if so than great :) > it's working on my computer! > c > > > > > > On Fri 31. Jan 2020 at 13:58, cy

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-01 Thread cyrille henry
yes, I did write that. But Miller implemented a binary transfer from pd to pd~ so the native solution must be lot's more efficient now. I did not test if shmem is still faster. Yes, using shmem_send~ and shmem_receive~ will add 1 more block latency on top of pd~ latency. cheers Le 01/02/202

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-10 Thread iftah gabbai
so i tested it with linux and it works great, my only problem right now is that i get an audible glitch when i setmem /dumpmem on a 576 samples size buffer, i tried breaking the setting / dumping to smaller chunks but it only got worse, is there any workaround? thanks! On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-10 Thread Christof Ressi
> when i setmem /dumpmem on a 576 samples size buffer Are you trying to do this in a single DSP tick? This would create a CPU spike and lead to audio dropouts, depending on the value of "delay" in the audio settings. You can either a) increase "delay" -> more latency -> more chance to "a

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-10 Thread cyrille henry
increase audio buffer size? Le 10/02/2020 à 12:38, iftah gabbai a écrit : so i tested it with linux and it works great, my only problem right now is that i get an audible glitch when i setmem /dumpmem on a 576 samples size buffer, i tried breaking the setting / dumping to smaller chunks b

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-10 Thread iftah gabbai
thanks Christof, unfortunately increasing the delay is not an option for me, when you suggest to spread the op across several dsp ticks you mean for example not to read the buffer in one go but to break the read to chunks? also, is there a way to "defer low" different tasks in pd? On Mon, Feb 10,

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-10 Thread Christof Ressi
> when you suggest to spread the op across several dsp ticks you mean  for example not to read the buffer in one go but to break the read to chunks? Yes. > also, is there a way to "defer low" different tasks in pd? Not yet, but I've proposed adding such functionality to Pd's API, so it can b

Re: [PD] shmem and bigger buffer size

2020-02-11 Thread iftah gabbai
thank you Christof for the help and cyrille for the excellent work, breaking it to chunks did the trick! On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 2:01 PM Christof Ressi wrote: > > when you suggest to spread the op across several dsp ticks you mean for > example not to read the buffer in one go but to break the