Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-31 Thread Benjamin Wesch
thanks for your tests and response! these numbers look rather encouraging and at the same time let me assume that something might be weird with my setup here. after learning about 'hyperfine' from iohannes in the other thread, i ran tests once more now with the new test release and get slightly be

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I can't reproduce that here - I tried with 0.54-0, 0.55-0test2c. and the latest build from CI: time ~/Desktop/Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" --> 0.03s user 0.08s system 13% cpu 0.854 total time ~/Applications/Pd-0.54-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  -send "p

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-27 Thread Benjamin Wesch
thanks a lot for pointing out 'hyperfine' and for providing this somewhat self-defeating plugin. comparing 0.54-1 to the artifact from the iem pipeline for 618b6325 now, i get the results below. side notes: * the plugin is present in all cases, but should only affect the last comparison, i assume

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/27/24 12:15, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: here's what i get on my Debian system using `hyperfine` (which runs the application multiple times, to cater for disk-caching and whatnot) | version | flags  | time    | |-||-| | 0.54-1  |    | 1

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/27/24 09:24, Benjamin Wesch wrote: replying to myself here after realizing that i made this quite complicated, sorry. it depends what you actually want to measure. i get similar results when just doing this on macos here: time /Applications/Pd-0.54-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-27 Thread Benjamin Wesch
replying to myself here after realizing that i made this quite complicated, sorry. i get similar results when just doing this on macos here: time /Applications/Pd-0.54-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" vs. time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd qui

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-16 Thread Benjamin Wesch
thanks for looking into this! when comparing click-on-app-icon vs. starting "/Applications/Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd" from the terminal, i also get slightly different results. the latter seems to be a 1 or 2s faster (this was also the way i measured). the former even causes the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm having trouble recreating this - I thik it was happening for a while but now I can't seem to get consistent differences (after launching both versions many times).  Are you launching it by clicking on the Pd icon, or some other way?  (That seems to make a difference). thanks M On 5/15/24

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-15 Thread Miller Puckette
It feels slower to me too (on Mac at least) - not sure why but I'd like to figure it out. cheers Miller On 5/15/24 1:25 PM, Benjamin Wesch wrote: hm, that's really weird. i tried to objectively measure here now with a script that waits for the "connected" output when starting both versions in

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-15 Thread Benjamin Wesch
hm, that's really weird. i tried to objectively measure here now with a script that waits for the "connected" output when starting both versions in parallel and i consistently get results quite similar to this: pd-0.54-1.log: 0.99s pd-0.55-0.log: 2.72s so my subjective impression was certainly wr

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-15 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm... I'm not getting that on mine.  The startup order is indeed different - the GUI doesn't start up until after any startup stuff has been done (loading libraries, etc).  But I don't _think_ the overall time spent is different - do let me know if you're finding otherwise :) Miller On

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-15 Thread Benjamin Wesch
thanks a lot for the test release! what i noticed here (apple m2) in addition to the missing console output: pd now takes ~5s to start. not a big deal obviously, but it's a huge difference compared to 0.54, where the gui is ready after ~1s. cheers, ben Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 16:26 Uhr schrieb Mi

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 15:19, Christof Ressi escreveu: > It used to be XP, but since Pd 0.54 it's Vista because of the new WASAPI > backend. The 32-bit version, however, still runs on XP because it is built > without WASAPI. > Awesome, Miller, I think it seems worth mentioning "Windows V

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Christof Ressi
It used to be XP, but since Pd 0.54 it's Vista because of the new WASAPI backend. The 32-bit version, however, still runs on XP because it is built without WASAPI. On 14.05.2024 20:13, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: What is the minimal Windows OS version you can install Pd (the 64 bit one)? Ev

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
What is the minimal Windows OS version you can install Pd (the 64 bit one)? Every other option seems to mention the minimum OS, but this one is missing. cheers Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 11:26, Miller Puckette < mpucke...@cloud.ucsd.edu> escreveu: > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.55-0 test

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2024-05-14 18:40]: > > I wonder what the updates to the audio interfacing and scheduler are? > > See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756. Thanks, amazing! best, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and ac

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 12:17, Edwin van der Heide escreveu: > The PD Window doesn’t display the text from the external libraries that > are loaded at startup anymore. The libraries are still visible in > Preferences > Startup and work as usual. I can confirm it doesn't load the texts, b

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Christof Ressi
I wonder what the updates to the audio interfacing and scheduler are? See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756. Christof ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-l

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Peter P.
* Miller Puckette [2024-05-14 16:24]: > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm Thanks Miller, just reading the changelog at https://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x5.htm#s5.1 I wonder what the updates to the audio interfacing and scheduler

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Edwin van der Heide
One observation: The PD Window doesn’t display the text from the external libraries that are loaded at startup anymore. The libraries are still visible in Preferences > Startup and work as usual. Best! Edwin > On 14 May 2024, at 16:23, Miller Puckette wrote: > > To Pd-announce: > > Pd vers