Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-24 Thread Jack
OK ! The bug seems to exist only on MacOSX and on a french Keyboard. No probleme here with Ubuntu 17.10 and a french keyboard too. ++ Jack Le 24/03/2018 à 11:32, Dan Wilcox a écrit : >> I dont know if this is related, but on my system, >> >> Keyup object outputs  its value immediately after

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
> I dont know if this is related, but on my system, > > Keyup object outputs its value immediately after key, when I press a > key, not when I release it. This is known: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/213 It's not directly

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-23 Thread Dan Wilcox
After some testing, it looks like the issue is how the Tk is handling the Shift key with the French keyboard mapping. For example, the Bang shortcut is bound as: bind all <$::modifier-Shift-Key-B> {menu_send %W bng} bind all <$::modifier-Shift-Key-b> {menu_send %W bng} and the menu item:

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut

2018-03-23 Thread hans w. koch
somehow, i have the feeling that the key repeat rate (set in system preferences) has changed in mac os recently. this might also be the culprit for multiple obect creations: if you press a key and hold it, it is interpreted as several keypresses at key repeat rate. until you turn that off

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-23 Thread Dan Wilcox
I can confirm seeing this with a French keyboard mapping and my system set to English. > On Mar 23, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Jack wrote: > > It is with : Tk 8.5.19 > ++ > > Jack > > Le 22/03/2018 à 18:21, Dan Wilcox a écrit : >> Ok thanks for checking. >> >> At least we can confirm

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut

2018-03-23 Thread Jack
The previous JY's message unencrypted : Hi, Same trouble Pd 0.48.1 Osx 10.10.2 I dont know if this is related, but on my system, Keyup object outputs its value immediately after key, when I press a key, not when I release it. Le 23/03/2018 à 14:24, jean-yves a écrit : > create two

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut

2018-03-23 Thread jean-yves
create two objects on MacOSX (Jack) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 14:19:27 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Reply-To: jean-yves MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <964950891.5.1521811167720.javamail@gumo.fr> In-reply-to: References:

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-23 Thread Jack
It is with : Tk 8.5.19 ++ Jack Le 22/03/2018 à 18:21, Dan Wilcox a écrit : > Ok thanks for checking. > > At least we can confirm it's a system language issue, although I'm > thinking it's more of a bug in Tk. Which version of TK does it display > when you put the log to all? > > I'm

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
tk is: Tk 8.5.19 n -- http://nimon.org Le 22/03/2018 à 18:21, Dan Wilcox a écrit : > Ok thanks for checking. > > At least we can confirm it's a system language issue, although I'm > thinking it's more of a bug in Tk. Which version of TK does it display > when you put the log to all? > > I'm

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-22 Thread Jack
Yep, I confirm. I asked to a participant to launch Pd in english, but it doesn't solve the problem. ++ Jack Le 22/03/2018 à 14:04, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit : > Same problem here, that is not solved by switching to English. > The interface is in English but the object are still created in

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-22 Thread Dan Wilcox
If you have a chance, can you also run Pd with the english translation but keep a French system and keyboard? You can do this on the commandline with: LANG=en.UTF8 open /Applications/Pd-0.48-1.app I'd be curious to know if it's related to Pd's language or to the system, etc. At some point, I

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-22 Thread Jack
Hello Dan, Thank you for your reply. The workshop was with french people (with french keyboard), and Pd interface was in french too. If switching to english solves the problem, i will ask to particpants to test this. ++ Jack Le 22/03/2018 à 12:14, Dan Wilcox a écrit : > Are you using an

Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

2018-03-22 Thread Dan Wilcox
Are you using an English keyboard and/or English local aka Pd is in English? There seems to be weird bug that causes this on *some* systems and switching Pd to english fixes it. I'm not sure what's going on, but it's related to the TK 8.5 cocoa bindings backend which is also causing the issues