Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Gilberto, Alexandre, Thank you for the report. The issue is probably caused by a bad help patch. [delay~] has two arguments, a delay buffer size and the actual delay. The right inlet can be used to change the actual delay time. If no arguments are used, the maximum delay is 512 samples. If yo

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Alexandre, Since you are interested in doing some maintenance in the cyclone library, I would like to report a possible bug found by an user in the forum and then confirmed by me. Apparently there are some problems with the object [delay~] and I am not sure they are present in Max 5 (I can

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

clone. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> An addon to cyclone would implicate and addon to extended, > but > > >>>>> then, it's not clear it'll ever be maintained again. Last > time > > >

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be just an abstraction and it doesn't have > to be a > >>>>> compiled object, I see the point. But I'd like to try and > code it > >>>>> as an external into the cyclone library if possible. > >>>>> >

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ime > >>>>> anyone talked about it in this list was 6 months ago... one way > or > >>>>> another, seems like a nice addon to cyclone. > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe it could be just an abstraction and it doesn't have to

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

;> >>>>> Maybe it could be just an abstraction and it doesn't have to be a >>>>> compiled object, I see the point. But I'd like to try and code it >>>>> as an external into the cyclone library if possible. >>>>> >>&g

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bstraction and it doesn't have to be a > >>> compiled object, I see the point. But I'd like to try and code it > >>> as an external into the cyclone library if possible. > >>> > >>> cheers > >>> > >>> 2

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; as an external into the cyclone library if possible. > >>> > >>> cheers > >>> > >>> 2015-06-05 17:50 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox >>> <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>>: > >>> > >>> See [m_scale] in rjlib: > &

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> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> >> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >> >>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:

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> 2015-06-05 17:50 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox >> <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> See [m_scale] in rjlib: >>> https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib/tree/master/rj >>> >>> >>> Dan Wilcox >>>

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:35 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: *From:*Alexandre Torres Porres mailto:por...@gmail.com>> *Subject:**Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance* *Date:*June 5, 2015 at 4:34:55

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e to be a >> compiled object, I see the point. But I'd like to try and code it as an >> external into the cyclone library if possible. >> >> cheers >> >> 2015-06-05 17:50 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox : >> >>> See [m_scale] in rjlib: https://github.com/rjdj/

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t;> See [m_scale] in rjlib: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib/tree/master/rj >> >> >> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> >> danomatika.com >> robotcowboy.com >> >> On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:35 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote

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t; <https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib/tree/master/rj> > > > Dan Wilcox > @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> > danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> > robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >> On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:35 PM, pd-list-requ...@li

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

ka.com > robotcowboy.com > > On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:35 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > *From: *Alexandre Torres Porres > *Subject: **Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance* > *Date: *June 5, 2015 at 4:34:55 PM EDT > *To: *Fred Jan Kraan > *Cc: *"pd-list@list

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Jun 5, 2015, at 4:35 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres mailto:por...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance > Date: June 5, 2015 at 4:34:55 PM EDT > To: Fred Jan Kraan mailto:fjkr...@xs4all.nl>> > Cc: "pd

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

On Fre, 2015-06-05 at 17:34 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > I'm voting for a new [scale] and [scale~] object in cyclone, the > second is missing completely in extended, the first is around, but in > different versions, like [maxlib/scale], which has a log option, and > is actually buggy, an

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Alexandre, On 2015-06-05 09:21 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> The concept of hot and cold inlets appears >> to apply to messages, not signals > > Surely, it's not that what confused me. Actually Max did confuse me I > guess, I thought I found a different behavior in [sah~] over there. B

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

I'm voting for a new [scale] and [scale~] object in cyclone, the second is missing completely in extended, the first is around, but in different versions, like [maxlib/scale], which has a log option, and is actually buggy, and the [expr_scale], which is just an expr abstraction. Seems like very sim

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> The concept of hot and cold inlets appears > to apply to messages, not signals Surely, it's not that what confused me. Actually Max did confuse me I guess, I thought I found a different behavior in [sah~] over there. But I actually hadn't understood how it worked. Sorry... it all makes sense now

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Alexandre, Sorry, I had missed your message, most active Pd-time had gone into helping to improve the build system for cyclone and pd-externals in general. The concept of hot and cold inlets appears to apply to messages, not signals. Sah~ appears to work as described in the Max5 documentation.

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please do not consider my previous message, I clearly had no idea what I was talking about and was just really confused :) sorry 2015-05-26 18:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > By the way, [sah~] in Pd has the inlets switched. In max, the left one is > supposed to trigger the sample and ho

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

By the way, [sah~] in Pd has the inlets switched. In max, the left one is supposed to trigger the sample and hold, unlike [samphold~] in Pd. But [sah~] is just like [samphold~]. In order for it to be a proper clone of max, that'd need to be corrected, not sure if it happened already. 2015-05-24 23

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

for instance, it says "Symbol argument sets name of table to play from. Additional int argument after that sets sample offset into the table (default 0)" well, I put an int argument after that, and it doesn't really work at all! 2015-05-24 23:05 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > hi fred, how

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

hi fred, how's it going? I was checking [cycle~] and it seems it's not behaving much closely like in max, have you checked that? I'm saying more about its behaviour as a wavetable, where it can offsett the table and everything. I can't find that list of bugs you were working on, where is it? How i

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Ok, downloaded Pd Extended 0.43 and now I see that [uzi] loads the cyclone version of Uzi and etc... "*It was this thread at the PD-dev list:* *[PD-dev] cyclone and uppercasehttp://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2009-03/013146.html

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Does it mean we're supposed to be able to load objects as lower case names somehow? Cause I don't seem to be able to do it anyhow. Hints please? thanks 2015-03-05 17:34 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > Hi Alexandre, pd-list, > > These are the objects: > Append, Borax, Bucket, Clip, Decode, Histo, Mo

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Alexandre, pd-list, These are the objects: Append, Borax, Bucket, Clip, Decode, Histo, MouseState, Peak, Table, TogEdge, Through, Uzi, Clip~, Line~, Scope~, Snapshot~. It appears Hans already implemented lowercase object names for all but Table, and a lowercase version with "cyclone/" prefixed

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Hey, yeah, didn't think of adding aliases , that solves the issue and maintains backwards compatibility with old patches. I hope it gets done. cheers 2015-03-05 15:38 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > It was this thread at the PD-dev list: > > [PD-dev] cyclone and uppercase > http://lists.puredata.in

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

It was this thread at the PD-dev list: [PD-dev] cyclone and uppercase http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2009-03/013146.html Fred Jan On 2015-03-05 06:18 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Hi, I have a question about upper case letters in the begining of some > objects like [Uzi] and

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Alexandre, > Hi, I have a question about upper case letters in the begining of some > objects like [Uzi] and [Scope~] in cyclone. Why is that? In Pd it does > make a difference by the way, not in Max. > > Anyway, if one would change that, old patches would need to be updated > as well, which i

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi, I have a question about upper case letters in the begining of some objects like [Uzi] and [Scope~] in cyclone. Why is that? In Pd it does make a difference by the way, not in Max. Anyway, if one would change that, old patches would need to be updated as well, which is a bummer, but even so I t

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Cool. One way or another, I just use expr~ whener I need these things anyway. But it might be convenient to have these objects, and I just feel like start coding somewhere, and this seems like an easy task. So the idea of having these exact proper clones of the max objects felt good to me. But it

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

I did some of those in Pd-extended as I had the same trouble with weird characters in object names; try mrpeach/op~ Martin On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > "*I made one abstraction here for [>=~], find it attached. It works > fine here in my computer **even thou

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

"*I made one abstraction here for [>=~], find it attached. It works fine here in my computer **even though it contains "weird and problematic" characters in its name.*" Ha, it doesn't work at all with [!/], but it does with [!-] 2015-02-24 15:43 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > Another opti

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Another option is that we could just keep this somewhat different behaviour that's also in the zexy objects, and just add the other 7. Those extra 7 could be in cyclone or maybe even in zexy, but that's up to the maintainers. I would really like to collaborate though. I've been meaning to start co

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> try loading the "hexloader" before accessing these objects, it might help. Yep, now it loads them all, thanks. So hmm, seems weird that it doesn't load on its own, but maybe I just wont bother to follow up with all the tech issues. But anyway, I'd like to know if there are any plans to get to a

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-02-24 15:50, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> &&~, ||~, <~, >~, ==~ > > none of these are created in extended 0.42-5, were they added only > in the latest version? no. zexy ships these objects for about 10 years or so (maybe longer). the

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> &&~, ||~, <~, >~, ==~ none of these are created in extended 0.42-5, were they added only in the latest version? cheers 2015-02-23 5:50 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2015-02-23 02:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > But with some

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-02-23 02:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > But with some other name, right? Cause I tried to instantiate these > objects and they just didn't show up. I'd like to know which ones > are in zexy and how to call them up. &&~, ||~, <~, >~, ==

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

I guess I can help you with teeth~, it's really supposed to be darn simple as hell. The filter formulas is not a problem for me. I guess I could help and just try and do it. "The objects you mentioned, apparantly happened to be part of cyclone, in the 'cyclone sub-library', but I cannot find them

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Hi Alexandre, The primary goal with cyclone maintenance was fixing the known bugs, maybe add missing functionality for existing objects and improve the help-patches. This is now more or less completed, apart from providing compiled versions for 'compile-unfriendly' platforms. Adding new objects w

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

Other suggestions for objects, these are quite simple to make, maybe too silly to bother as well; [!-] & [!-~] [!/] & [!/~] and also the signal versions of comparatives such as [>~], [>=~], [<~], [<=~], [!=~] & [==~] by the way, this could all be done with simple abstractions made out of [epxr]