Well, I'm far too young to have a grandaughter, but here's my youngest
daughter lighting up the room at 7 weeks. These were taken about 4 hours
ago. :)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/Wildamusement.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/smile_5.jpg
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:03:57 -0400
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. And thanks to all who responded. Yes, I am looking for
readers. After my first round of revisions, I'll be happy to mail a
text doc of the manuscript to anyone who wants to read it. I want
hi paul,
On 20/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:
YOU ARE THE IDIOT.
Uh oh, that's torn it. Caps.
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On 20/10/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
After having written several hundred magazine articles and countless
advertisements, I finished the first draft of my first novel today:
70,700 words. It will probably grow a bit as I revise it, since my
early revisions have found me
N...
ASA - doubleing the values means halving the shutter time - a numeric/linear
scale.
DIN is a logarithmic scale - 3 DIN means twice or half as much light.
It's true that Scheiner and Weston are 1/3 stops apart.
http://home6.inet.tele.dk/haagen/ei.htm
This table does not mention BSI.
Very nice. I was thinking maybe you were trying to enter that
grandfather contest - but just decided to go with a daughter. She is
extremely cute, too!
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Bruce
Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:04:00 AM, you wrote:
BL Hi!
BL http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=15453full=1
BL
Hello Jostein,
The red and green really jump out on the bed of lichen. It is a
rather cool shot - it just grabs your eyes and holds them there. I
like it.
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Bruce
Friday, October 20, 2006, 11:18:27 AM, you wrote:
JØ http://www.oksne.net/paw/cowberry.html
JØ Again, thanks
Hello Boris,
I like the first better. There is a sparkle in her eye and the
shading looks better. In the second, the subject area seems a bit
flat and lacking in contrast.
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Best regards,
Bruce
Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:17:50 AM, you wrote:
BL Hi!
BL
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On the ethical side and comparison with Canon that we discussed
yesterday, the bottom-line is that Canon users got something from the
change of register (let alone mount). Pentax users got
Those smiles areseriously contagious James :-)
Very cute.
Dave
On 10/21/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I'm far too young to have a grandaughter, but here's my youngest
daughter lighting up the room at 7 weeks. These were taken about 4 hours
ago. :)
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, David Savage wrote:
Any moving part can break. What I'd like to know is how the sensor is
fixed in position when SR isn't in use.
The sensor is not fixed, it can be moved around by shaking the camera.
Apparently, Pentax engineers have tested this exhaustively, and there is
Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
DIAL UP WARNING: THIS IMAGE IS OVER 600,000 BYTES IN SIZE!
http://nutdriver.org/IMGP1464.jpg
This is one of my favorite shots from the recent /Petit le Mans/ event
at Road Atlanta. This is the diesel Audi R10 that ended up winning the
event. This photo was
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061019171920
It was brighter today, so I went to the river to finish what has been
started a few days ago. Equipped with monopod on a misty day with some
overcast and helicopters frequenting due to visit of Her Majesty Queen
Elizabeth II. And now, enough for
On 10/21/06, Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, David Savage wrote:
Any moving part can break. What I'd like to know is how the sensor is
fixed in position when SR isn't in use.
The sensor is not fixed, it can be moved around by shaking the camera.
Apparently,
How could that be pentax's cost if they can
Produce and sell the entire anti-shake for
Only $100 retail? It doesn't make any sense
Whatsoever. It's basically a resistor and
A spring. I really doubt that it couldn't
Be produced in qty for a lot less than $35
Part cost. The entire K1000 which
On 20.10.06, at 20:46 , Alan Chan wrote:
This lens is awesome!! Are Nikkor DC lenses doing the same thing?
I don't think so. In one of the review we can read:
The Nikon can AF, too, but can not give the supreme bokeh of the STF
lens -- the DC lens shifts lenses around to over- or undercorrect
J and K Messervy wrote:
Well, I'm far too young to have a grandaughter, but here's my youngest
daughter lighting up the room at 7 weeks. These were taken about 4 hours
ago. :)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/Wildamusement.jpg
On Oct 20, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
It's much more expensive and much more difficult to manufacture a
sensor/film gate with a matched curvature, particularly if you are
talking about an interchangeable lens system camera.
Is it even possible to make a curved sensor using our
Shel:
- Original Message -
How do you know the part in question costs $5.00? Does the $5.00 reflect
only the cost of materials, or does it include any manufacturing and setup
costs to implement the item in cameras that were designed not to include
the part?
If it cost $5 and you
Yes, I understand that, but I wonder of JCO grasps the concept. I knew a
number of people in the automotive business many years back, and they'd
watch every penny, literally. One cent spread over the cost of more than a
million units adds up quickly enough. Listening to these guys discuss
costs
Michael Abbott wrote:
Hi all,
I recently bought a K100D (my first Pentax!) and the DA 21mm lens, and
have taken some pictures with them, some of which are here:
http://www.mabot.com/photo/pentax/
Welcome to the jungle, Michael!
What part of the country are you? Getting some fall color there.
Well done Shel.
First, it tells an important story.
It is also well executed. Framing is very good. It is well balanced, and so
on.
What I really like is that you manage to tell the story with few and simple
effects.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
-Original Message-
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
How could that be pentax's cost if they can
Produce and sell the entire anti-shake for
Only $100 retail? It doesn't make any sense
Whatsoever. It's basically a resistor and
A spring. I really doubt that it
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Are you suggesting that you are using all the features of each of your
cameras? If not, please don't isolate the particular artifact in your
(non) quest for a cheaper body.
Are you suggesting that every
Seriously cute!! Absolutely beautiful. Had to show my wife and she did
the grandmother AH thing.
Jack
--- J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I'm far too young to have a grandaughter, but here's my
youngest
daughter lighting up the room at 7 weeks. These were taken about 4
Speaking for myself only, and being a die hard manual camera/K-mount user,
I was pleasantly surprised at how much more enjoyable photography had
become once I started using the A series and later lenses. I still love
the old glass for their optical qualities but I like the newer glass as
well.
Shel,
Are you planning to get the 10D? I haven't had time to check the reviews
yet.
Maris
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Maybe we should delay speculating on a rumor about a delay based on
Pentax being sold.
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On Oct 20, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
A-ha... Har! So now you tell us... I kept thinking - what happened to
Paul? Why the steadiness of his hand is wasted away? Little I have
known ;).
Congratulations on the job complete. I did not really know you were a
writer...
Yep.
No. No images. A book about Ford might be a good seller these days,
particularly if it included a harsh look at management.
Paul
On Oct 20, 2006, at 11:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul, I wish you all the best with this endeavor.
I expect to have you sign my copy when its available.
Are
Thanks. I will be looking for reviewers. And I'm saving your message so
I don't forget.
I'd like to thank everyone who replied for the encouraging words. I
didn't expect that, but it goes to show how much of a family the PDML
is -- even in the midst of an aperture crisis.
Paul
On Oct 21, 2006,
Especially, a compound curve?
Jack
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On Oct 20, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
It's much more expensive and much more difficult to manufacture a
sensor/film gate with a matched curvature, particularly if you are
talking about an
- Original Message -
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Shoppers Drug Mart changing their printers
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Spyder is excellent for referencing your system for consistency, you
can
still expect to need to make minor tweaks to match their system.
On Oct 21, 2006, at 4:14 AM, Bob Shell wrote:
It's much more expensive and much more difficult to manufacture a
sensor/film gate with a matched curvature, particularly if you are
talking about an interchangeable lens system camera.
Is it even possible to make a curved sensor using our
Hi,
I'm pretty sure I will. I'd like to see one and use it a bit, and wait
until a few hands-on reviews are posted here. However, it seems that the
camera addresses most, if not all, of the shortcomings I found in the
istDS. A friend has ordered one from a local shop, so I'll have a chance
for
On 21/10/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Abbott wrote:
Hi all,
I recently bought a K100D (my first Pentax!) and the DA 21mm lens, and
have taken some pictures with them, some of which are here:
http://www.mabot.com/photo/pentax/
Welcome to the jungle, Michael!
On 10/19/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/blastfrompast.html
Excellent, Shel. Just excellent. On the technical side, you nailed the
composition and depth of field dead on. On the emotional side, the
juxtaposition of the man's expression and the
Pål Jensen wrote:
If it cost $5 and you sell a million cameras thats five million.
I personally believe that the lens mount without mechanical coupling
are
more suited for robotic assembly. Mechanical linkages needs precision
and is
probably far more expensive to manufacture I suspect.
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your comments and observations. I wasn't sure how well the pic
would be received here.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Tim Øsleby
Well done Shel.
First, it tells an important story.
It is also well executed. Framing is very good.
It is well balanced, and so on.
Calm down, John. Do you realize that your Caps Lock is stuck. That
happens sometimes with older keyboards, or if there's dust or dirt, or even
saliva, stuck amongst the keys.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: J. C. O'Connell
YOU ARE THE IDIOT. THE PART IN QUESTION COSTS
ABOUT $5 TO PENTAX
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, P?l Jensen wrote:
If it cost $5 and you sell a million cameras thats five million.
Wow! So if they sold 2 million cameras it would be 10 million! Think
of all the savings they could make if they did not manufacture
cameras!
This feature, like all others, has been and
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote:
P.S.: It's my birthday today, JCO, so be nice.
HB John. Hope a nice job comes your way real soon now.
Kostas (whose good mate's bd is also today :-))
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Are you suggesting that you are using all the features of each of your
cameras? If not, please don't isolate the particular artifact in your
(non) quest for a
Pål Jensen wrote:
If it cost $5 and you sell a million cameras thats five million.
I personally believe that the lens mount without mechanical
coupling are more suited for robotic assembly. Mechanical
linkages needs precision and is probably far more expensive
to manufacture I suspect.
Thanks for taking the time to look and comment, Mat. I could have done
with a slightly softer, more OOF background, but getting the additional
sharpness on the newspaper that F5.6 provided was important. 5.6 is a
great aperture on that particular lens.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Mat
Have you have ever looked at the complexity
Of an entire k1000? There are hundreds of
Tiny parts, all of which probably cost about
$35 total and that includes all the part(s) in
Question too because even the lowly K1000 has the very
Aperture cam sensor that the DSLRS are missing.
The parts and
- Original Message - Wow! So if they sold 2 million cameras it
would be 10 million! Think
of all the savings they could make if they did not manufacture
cameras!
This feature, like all others, has been and would be sold to the
customer.
Sorry, but this is not how it works. The
Manual labor in asia ia probably cheaper than robotics
Most likely at the qty(s) produced due to high
Setup costs. K1000s had a whole bunch of itty bitty
Parts and were hand assemebled essentially and sold
For dirt cheap.
jco
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Five million dollars in extra profit is great for any comapany; particularly
in a field that traditionaly loose money
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: The
I am sorry, but this is a really, really, bad argument. On one hand you
Are saying you enjoy the much more enjoyable automation of A and
later lenses and bodies, But then on the other hand youre saying that
removal of the only Automation the K/M lenses have is of little
consequence. I am sorry
His provided numbers are stupid in that they are not meaningful by
themselves. If you sell a million
Cameras at $1000, thats 1 $BILLION in revenue
And the extra $5 million in cost is very small at that scale so it's all
relative. Secondly, I honestly feel a separate model AT A HIGHER PRICE
(just
If what you say is true, don't you think they would have done it? Do they
deliberately loose sales over a mere $5? Are they just stupid or evil?
Don't you think the reason that they don't include feature in the current
cameras is because they see no financial rewards in doing so?
-
Its an illogical and incomplete argument actually.
This isnt about emaotion, this is about logic.
Permnent removal of the K/M full support at this
Time (no changes in lens mount) on ALL pentax DSLRs is illogical and
Irrational.
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Doesnt leica M have much better long term system support?
You guys act like 1983 is ancient history. What are you all,
A bunch of teenage rookies?
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Roberts
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:40 AM
Whack-A-Mole,
No. This about you being a stupid, repetitive, insistent egomaniac
with nothing better to do than act like an asshole about your pet
monomania.
Godfrey
On Oct 21, 2006, at 7:33 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Its an illogical and incomplete argument actually.
This isnt about
This is the third time I have posted my thery on this.
I think that Pentax's first DSLR (*istD) was trying
To be the cheapest possible model they could hit the
DSLR scene with. In that case, it's a BOTTOM OF THE LINE
Model ( even though I was their only model at the time)
And the removal/cost
On Oct 21, 2006, at 7:03 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
Are you suggesting that you are using all the features of each of
your
cameras? If not, please don't isolate the particular artifact in
your
(non) quest for a cheaper body.
Are you suggesting that every DSLR buyer has a raft of
Better to be a teenage rookie than a geriatric nincompoop.
G
On Oct 21, 2006, at 7:31 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Doesn’t leica M have much better long term system support?
You guys act like 1983 is ancient history. What are you all,
A bunch of teenage rookies?
jco
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On Oct 21, 2006, at 7:05 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote:
P.S.: It's my birthday today, JCO, so be nice.
HB John. Hope a nice job comes your way real soon now.
Happy Birthday, John!
Don't expect JCO to be anything even remotely human. He's an Eliza
I have over 20 years in product engineering and lived
With marketing guys on my back all that time. Heres
How it works : When (and if ) you add or remove features
From products, the bottom line is, does it ADD ( or remove )
VALUE to the potential customer(s)? You dont add features
That customers
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have over 20 years in product engineering and lived
With marketing guys on my back all that time. Heres
How it works : When (and if ) you add or remove features
From products, the bottom line is, does it ADD ( or remove )
Well, you're getting pretty emotional, even when you try to argue logically.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: J. C. O'Connell
Its an illogical and incomplete argument actually.
This isnt about emaotion, this is about logic.
Permnent removal of the K/M full support at this
Time (no changes
It's not an argument - it's how i feel. I like being able to use my manual
lenses in fully manual mode. I often do that with K-mount bodies, removing
the batteries, shooting without using the built in meter or AE, or using
Super Tak or earlier lenses. Rarely do I use my LX an automatic, much
In this photo you seem to have very different approach to the light. It is a
more typical available light photo. And the lightening is lovely. I love the
reflections on her face. I also love the way she stands out from the
background.
If it was mine I believe I would have cropped an inch at the
Judging from my meeting with Galia this summer, it is hard to imagine her in
this apparently relaxed pose. The Galia I know is always on the move, so
full of drive and energy. At the same time she seems to be very open,
drinking of the cup of life, if you understand what I mean. She is a rare
Yes, it is. We all know what your opinion is. In fact, people on other
mailing lists and groups also know. Your vitriolic verbiage has spilled
out all over the internet. Now that you've made your point, it's time to
shut up and move on to other more productive discussions.
Shel
[Original
Can't help reading bits and fragments of this thread, and can't help making
a meta comment.
It's a perpetum mobile ;-)
Tim
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I don't mind they dropped the aperture thingy. Actually it's more fun
to use old lenses like this (M for completely manual!) and the bonus
is some people think K and M lenses don't work properly on digital
which keeps prices low. I noticed an M 100/4 macro changed owner for
40 euros and a K 85/1.8
I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the beautifully shaped
focusing ring.
What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates
those form others, please?
http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc
Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful
rings -
Super Takumar and earlier lenses have those rings, some SMC takumars
have them as well.
Pentax (And everybody else) stopped making them because rubber rings
have a more positive grip and are cheaper to make.
-Adam
Jens Bladt wrote:
I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the
Paul the steady hand writer?
Congratulations of the first big step Paul.
The idea sounds like a good one.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Stenquist
Sent: 21. oktober 2006 01:47
To:
Obviously you've never used the *istD, which is a serious amateur
camera, not a bottom of the line model. With solid build, dual-control
wheels, PC Sync and a grip, it's hardly a bottom of the line model (that
would be the *istDL, two models later).
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
This is the
You misunderstand, I'm speaking about the notation.
For example Kodachrome 64
ASA = 64
DIN = 19º
ISO = 64/19º
it works for all film speeds of course
ASA = 100
DIN = 21º
ISO = 100/21º
ASA = 400
DIN = 27º
ISO = 400/27º
The international standards organization happily took both notations in
You haven't a clue. The istD was _not_ a bottom of the line model, nor did
it seem that Pentax was trying to put out the cheapest possible model they
could ... After the D came the DS, which was substantially less expensive
even though it had some benefits and features the D didn't have. The DS
I keep hearing of a supposed delay on the delivery of the K10D. I cannot
understand this delay thing.
AFAIK, the situation is the following:
1 - The K10D was scheduled to be on sale worldwide (including Japan) in late
October/early November.
2 - Then Pentax realized there was a huge demand fot
First I used (1955ish) was some square boxy camera from Kodak.
First one I bought (1958) was a Kodak 8mm movie camera.
Next (1962) was a Kodak 35mm camera; no coupled viewfinder, aperture
and speed set w/ levers on the lens.
Next (1967-68?) was a Nikkormat. My brother-in-law at the time was in
Well done indeed!
Your're into color now, rather than BW?
Maris
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your comments and observations. I wasn't sure how well
the pic would be received here.
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I have over 20 years in product engineering and lived
With marketing guys on my back all that time. Heres
How it works : When (and if ) you add or remove features
From products, the bottom line is, does it ADD ( or remove )
VALUE to the potential customer(s)?
REPLY:
It doesn't add
On 21/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:
What are you all,
A bunch of teenage rookies?
That would be my overriding wish.
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No, but they might find one that they want to use, and that will be
quiet a surprise, after they've been told about the unparalleled
backward compatibility Pentax supports by the marketing department at
the time they bought the camera. When I hear, to paraphrase a bit, K
and M lenses usable
My dealer in Malta has confirmed to me that I should be receiving my
K10D late november probably the 3rd or 4th week of November. Now
considering that malta is a tiny place just 400k population and he is
certainly not one who moves huge qtys of cameras so I guess he would
not be one of the first
It would probably be better technically if they went the whole route
and dispense with the mechanical iris actuation in its entirety. It
would be more consistent and more accurate to have an in-lens servo
do the actuation and reduce the body couplings to a 100% electronic
setup, call
In a message dated 10/21/2006 8:17:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a perpetum mobile ;-)
Tim
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So true.
One can just watch it spin and spin and spin and spin.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
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I'd love for them to get rid of the program presets, the pop-up
flash, and the grip mount. (They got rid of the grip mount on the low-
end DS/DL/K100 series bodies, notice? as a cost savings measure. ...
I've never missed it.) Also all the effects, white balance
controls ... I only
That's essentially the way I understood the initial post on the subject.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Dario Bonazza
I keep hearing of a supposed delay on the delivery of the K10D. I cannot
understand this delay thing.
AFAIK, the situation is the following:
1 - The K10D was scheduled
John Celio pointed out that the mechanism is more complicated than some may
realize, and while the actual cost of parts may be trivial, the cost of the
steps needed to include those parts also must be included, as you say.
Basically the same as the cost of 1/2 of a roller-ball
Its not pure extra profit, its cost reduction
And consequent selling price reduction too. A model ( I am
Not saying to put it in the cheapo bottom line
Models ) with the cam sensor in there would sell
For a higher price, high enough to justify the
Inclusion.
jco
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From:
I'm sorry it is a feature that _is_ being sold to the customer.
Backwards compatibility. Pentax's marketing is using those very words,
at the same time it's been compromised. That is the height of hypocrisy
Pål Jensen wrote:
- Original Message - Wow! So if they sold 2 million
FYI, The K1000 was selling for $150 brand new
Well into the 1990's and its got hundreds
Of itty bitty parts that need delcate assembly
And It had ALL the parts for the aperture
Cam sensor included at that very low selling price at that time.
You are mistaken if you think the cost of the part
Is
And where do you come up with these BS numbers?
Do you really expect anyone to take your posts
Seriously with this stuff?
jco
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Pål Jensen
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
My opinion on this whole matter is clear
Pentax obviously disagree with your opinion. I'm sure if they thought
it (cam thing-a-me-bob) was worth it they would have included it.
Dave
On 10/21/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have over 20 years in product engineering and lived
DUH ... I can enjoy both the modern and the old ways of shooting. I've
been trying to be nice, but you make it very difficult. I'm tempted to
call you a fucking asshole, but I'll refrain from such behavior and
language. Read my original post again. Read every word carefully.
Perhaps you need
Actually the spotmatic F came with the later version
Of the SMCT lenses with the round rubberized focus rings,
Not the one in your pic. They were labelled SMC takumars
Instead of Super-Multi-Coated takumars on the front ring.
joc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
It aint over til the fat lady sings.
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Savage
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:01 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
My opinion on this whole matter is clear
Pentax
Dario,
Not that I have any basis to doubt your information, but how do you
know these things?
Home country not being 'served' first..for example.
Does scheduled to be on sale mean immediate shipment thereafter in
the US?
Thanks,
Jack
--- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep hearing
DUH. You said that the removal of K/M lens automation
Wasn't of any importance right after you just said you had recently
discovered The joys of modern automation. THAT'S A REALLY DUMB
CONTRADICTORY POST. If you can't see that you are blind.
jco
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In a message dated 10/20/2006 4:49:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Hope to have it ready for submission in
about eight weeks. This explains in part while I've done nothing more
than photograph my granddaughter this summer.
Paul
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Congratulations on finishing it,
The *istD was a bottom of the line DSLR camera when
It was the only one they ever made due to
Its features and prices in the overall DSLR
Camera market. When the newer models came out the
Bottom just went further down at real cheap prices.
jco
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The *istD WAS a bottom line model compared to
All other makes and models of DSLRS on the market
At the time. Just because they later made even
Lower specified models doesn't make it better
The bottom just got lower which was weird.
jco
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I never advocated removal of manual mode or GB mode (AE LOCKED).
I want aperture cam sensor to allow automation IN ADDITION
To the manual modes. Duh.
jco
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Toine
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Your hyperbole makes the rest of your statement much less believable. I
suspect that somewhere between 20-30% of their target market knows what
a K or M series lens is. Pentax is, after all, only aiming for10% of
the DSLR market. That would have to mean that a lot of potential buyers
are
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