Re: shooting green

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 9:27:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jehosep...@mindspring.com writes: Interesting. Where I first heard of it was about 1977 or so. The local and state law enforcement types were using it to spot marijuana plots in the local state and federal parks and forests.

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
Derby Chang wrote: Subash wrote: hi, will be of interest to quite a few here i think... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09022701epsonrd1xrangefinder.asp regards, subash Oh my, oh my. The adolescent need to complete the collection is, ahem, rising. Staying with 6 mega pickle wouldn't w

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 5:14:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cagu...@earthlink.net writes: What is the story behind Frank & the rabbit ears? I saw a picture someone showed a way while back with Frank in rabbit ears--it was at GFM he wore these, right? Is there more to the story then ju

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 1:59:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbwat...@bellsouth.net writes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/maubrowncow/3314034115/ Patric Norton of ZDTV and Tekzilla fame. CW Funny. frank's changed a lot. Marnie :-) -

Re: Peso - not my usual thing...

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 9:28:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: ...more "Stenquestian" than moi... but there were special circumstances.. http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384_N3Nso/1/480279687_EreMs/Medium that was the dark side camera... however... this is

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
Subash wrote: hi, will be of interest to quite a few here i think... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09022701epsonrd1xrangefinder.asp regards, subash Oh my, oh my. The adolescent need to complete the collection is, ahem, rising. Staying with 6 mega pickle wouldn't worry me, but Cott

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 10:19:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jehosep...@mindspring.com writes: > A book worth reading once is worth reading again. Not all of them. :-) And I say that as a person that has a "cycle" that I reread about twice a decade that covers about fifteen individual

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 7:56:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: Film is forever. When we're old and breathing our last, we'll all make one last stand in the darkroom, breathe the pungent fumes of hypoid and praise the gods of silver and cellulose. Yeah. Ri

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Doug Franklin
eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I have paperbacks I got at the age of 12, Ace Doubles (sci-fi) as a matter of fact. None have fallen apart yet. It just takes a little care not to break the spines. I have other books dating to dating to the late fifties and the sixties. Well, I have a lot of older

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 7:39:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, godd...@mac.com writes: I don't know about that. I have a bunch of wonderful old paperbacks still that I paid a buck or two for in 1968-75 ... I still read them, over and over again ... still enjoy them ... Keeping the often-

Re: on paper

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 27, 2009, at 21:04 , Doug Franklin wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: Fiction and children's books may go the way of electronica, but I think fact and history must be relegated to the printed page and kept as multiple copies in multiple repositories for civilization to continue to evo

Re: on paper

2009-02-27 Thread Doug Franklin
Tim Bray wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:04 PM, David Savage wrote: It's not a trick question. When viewing photographs do you prefer to look at pictures on a monitor or in print? I like print, but in general I would probably pick a monitor. I think the reason is this: my Dad was an avid sl

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread David Savage
2009/2/28 David Savage : > 2009/2/28 ann sanfedele : >> >> Oh my!  ... and Easter is coming up , too! > > > And the full version: DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 7:04:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pentax...@mac.com writes: Sorry I dragged you all along with this traipse through and around the subject of reading, but it was cathartic. Whiningly yours... :-) Bet you'll feel better if you just trash this and move on, re

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread David Savage
2009/2/28 ann sanfedele : > > Ken Waller wrote: > >> I wonder if he's from Ca na da and related to knarF ? >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f >> >> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" >> >> Subject: Re: another one? >> >>> It's an epidemic: >>> http://photo.net/p

Re: Peso - not my usual thing...

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
I think Adam will like it very much, Ann. Lots of great character in your portrait. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: Peso - not my usual thing... ...more "Stenquestian"

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread ann sanfedele
Ken Waller wrote: I wonder if he's from Ca na da and related to knarF ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: another one? It's an epidemic: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7685343 Paul On Feb 27, 2009, at 4:

Peso - not my usual thing...

2009-02-27 Thread ann sanfedele
...more "Stenquestian" than moi... but there were special circumstances.. http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384_N3Nso/1/480279687_EreMs/Medium that was the dark side camera... however... this is one that i was going to use for the abstract gallery (I had a Pentax lens on the canon) but

Re: shooting green

2009-02-27 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Wasn't there also something called, I think, "orthochromatic" film that was particularly sensitive to green? Yup, kinda. Ortho film could be handled under a red safelight. It wasn't that it was more green or blue sensitiv

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:04 PM, David Savage wrote: > > It's not a trick question. When viewing photographs do you prefer to > look at pictures on a monitor or in print? I like print, but in general I would probably pick a monitor. I think the reason is this: my Dad was an avid slide photograph

Re: DA* 55/1.4 Sample shots

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
You know, I think it's starting to. From: "Ken Waller" Yeah, but does your leg tingle, just a bit ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" Subject: Re: DA* 55/1.4 Sample shots Oh gosh, wish I hadn't seen those beautiful pics

Re: Shells

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Toine, I like your shell pics; I find them quietly pretty. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Toine" To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: GESO: Shells We enjoyed a short holiday at the beach: http://www.repiuk.nl/shells/ K20D DA35 Macro. Toine -- P

Re: PESO - John of the Jet Fuel

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Frank: I like both. Rendering's great on the sign; the highlight on the left is a bit blown, but the portrait is terrific. Get Johnnie a print; he'll love it! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, February

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread David Savage
2009/2/28 Graydon : > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:21:02PM +0900, David Savage scripsit: >> That's the process Paul. The more accurate comparison would be: >> viewing photos on screen (monitor or digital picture frame) or in >> print. >> >> Which do you prefer? > > For what purpose? It's not a trick

Re: on paper

2009-02-27 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph McAllister wrote: Fiction and children's books may go the way of electronica, but I think fact and history must be relegated to the printed page and kept as multiple copies in multiple repositories for civilization to continue to evolve. If the appropriate people are paying attention,

Re: PESO - Winter fun

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi DagT: That is fun. Love the composition and minimalist approach. I just wish the child on the left is just a tad more in focus, like say in the face, but, hey, that's just me. It's still a fun pic. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "DagT" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO 2009 - 021 - GDG

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Another beauty, Godfrey. The light is great, and the shot is gritty, but the light, to my eye, seems to bring a bit of elegance as well to the shot. Lovely. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" To: "SeePhoto Talk" ; "DUG" ; ; "PDML List" ; "PAW Picture

Re: DA* 55/1.4 Sample shots

2009-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
Yeah, but does your leg tingle, just a bit ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" Subject: Re: DA* 55/1.4 Sample shots Oh gosh, wish I hadn't seen those beautiful pics taken with those beautiful Pentax lenses. My left eye and u

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
I wonder if he's from Ca na da and related to knarF ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: another one? It's an epidemic: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7685343 Paul On Feb 27, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Cory Waters w

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
I'd be careful ordering from anyone other than KEH or B+H. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "J" <27...@comcast.net> Subject: K20D shopping online What are the thoughts about ordering a K20D on line now that the prices came down.I have seen the

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
I had a powerful example of printed pictures vs computer images yesterday. While visiting old friends in Milwaukee, we saw a 'blurb' style book of pictures of their granddaughter. The little girl lives in California and dad is a professional artist (graphic), but it was really good. Seeing full fra

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:21:02PM +0900, David Savage scripsit: > That's the process Paul. The more accurate comparison would be: > viewing photos on screen (monitor or digital picture frame) or in > print. > > Which do you prefer? For what purpose? I have 15,043 DNG files from the K20D. No wa

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread David Savage
That's the process Paul. The more accurate comparison would be: viewing photos on screen (monitor or digital picture frame) or in print. Which do you prefer? I think the popularity of self publishing sites like Blurb, DIY photo kiosks and the photo books that you can get made at the local office

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
It wasn't that long ago that so many of us waxed poetic over film. We paid homage to the process, marveled at the wonder of a print coming to life in the developing tray, swore that we would never be seduced by the overpriced toys that were digital cameras. Film is forever. When we're old a

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 07:39:02PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi scripsit: > On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Graydon wrote: >> ... Books only survive well on good paper with stable inks and >> labour-intensive sewn bindings. Those books, irrespective of what's >> printed in them, are expensive. Which driv

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Graydon wrote: ... Books only survive well on good paper with stable inks and labour-intensive sewn bindings. Those books, irrespective of what's printed in them, are expensive. Which drives the volume down. ... I don't know about that. I have a bunch of wonderf

Re: PESO: Lebanese Picnic

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Joseph. On Feb 27, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Nice colorful composition, Paul.. On Feb 27, 2009, at 13:56 , Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8647234&size=lg Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac

PESO 2009 - 021 - GDG

2009-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I see this scene every time I go out on walks. Today the light seemed to enforce the mood of desolation and distance: I tried to capture its gritty essence. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/021-forgotten.jpg "Forgotten" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 27, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: From: "Cory Waters" http://www.flickr.com/photos/maubrowncow/3314034115/ Patric Norton of ZDTV and Tekzilla fame. What is the story behind Frank & the rabbit ears? I saw a picture someone showed a way while back with Frank in rabb

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
Fiction and children's books may go the way of electronica, but I think fact and history must be relegated to the printed page and kept as multiple copies in multiple repositories for civilization to continue to evolve. Unless those little non-destructible universally readable pretty colo

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 27, 2009, at 15:12 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What no reader device can replace ... aside from the obvious things that Marnie suggested, is the feel and smell of paper. Of the cover. Of turning a page. Or the little notes jotted in the margins of a print or book by a previous owner, a

link to pixs of FS friday lens

2009-02-27 Thread ann sanfedele
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4796533_saNpx ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:31:57PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi scripsit: > On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> ... Mass production books will soon be a thing of the past. > > Possibly. The price/profit curve has looked bad for forty years. > Print on demand books like these from blu

FS friday.... (Canadians especially please read)

2009-02-27 Thread ann sanfedele
Those lenses of my friend They really are minty -- I sold one on ebay and the guy was ecstatic! ... Here is what is left -- These are all k-mounts - the guy's dad had a Pentax. (1) a Sigma-mini -wide 28mm f2.8 which has great macro capabilities - which I found odd but I tested it an

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Fernando
Beautiful words, Bob. As much as I enjoy a good hardcover book, the smell, the flipping of pages, truth of the matter is that, living in a small apartment, I have no room for a huge collection of books; I can only keep the ones that I really like, the ones I believe cannot, or even more, should no

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Nick David Wright wrote: Oh I read the entire thing. But just to give you a little background on myself ... I'm the guy who refuses to own a car and rides a bicycle everywhere. I'm also the guy that mows my lawn with a scythe and a manual power reel mower. And I'm also the guy that heats my h

Re: PESO - Natural Stained Glass

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 5:00:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pentax...@mac.com writes: On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:36 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/stained.htm > > Comments welcome. The cropping is up to you. I like it the way it is. Nice capture of

Re: My Unapologetic Review Of The PDML Photo Annual 2008-2009

2009-02-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:48 PM, I wrote: > My immediate reaction is that all the nice things people have written > about it are true.  It's a beautiful volume of excellent and eclectic > photography.  I'm looking forward to a relaxed journey through it > tonight.  Many thanks to the editors for a

Re: DA* 55/1.4 Sample shots

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Oh gosh, wish I hadn't seen those beautiful pics taken with those beautiful Pentax lenses. My left eye and upper lip has just started twitching. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Fernando" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:41 PM Subjec

Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: RE: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition the small print in the T&Cs says losers have their houses repossessed and have to work as slaves for 15 years in

Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:58 PM, AlunFoto wrote: # > I came thisclose to submitting a shot of a guy with

Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: "Christian" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition ann sanfedele wrote: Christian wrote: Fishing for compliments, Bill? Or just singing your own tuna? h

Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "Ken Waller" Sounds great ! So we're all gonna meet in NYC this fall ! O--now that sounds like fun. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly abo

Re: another one?

2009-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "Cory Waters" http://www.flickr.com/photos/maubrowncow/3314034115/ Patric Norton of ZDTV and Tekzilla fame. What is the story behind Frank & the rabbit ears? I saw a picture someone showed a way while back with Frank in rabbit ears--it was at GFM he wore these, right? Is there m

Re: Entered the "Photography Book Now" competition

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 27, 2009, at 14:16 , Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:36:27PM -0800, Joseph McAllister wrote: # # On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:49 , William Robb wrote: # # >Hey, just a minnow there big guy. You have salmon to say, say it # >like a manatea. # # # # Better than mine, Bill. Sorry I

Re: PESO - Double Guard Duty

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
Did you ever think it might be you? On Feb 27, 2009, at 07:56 , frank theriault wrote: These two seemed so intent in their "duties": http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/12/on-guard-duty.html Comments always welcome. I like it. Good seeing and composition / juxtaposition. Joseph McAlli

Re: PESO - Winter fun

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
I was going to complain about the snow being without any texture, but now think it's great the way it is - kids floating (and falling) in space... On Feb 27, 2009, at 08:58 , DagT wrote: Lots of snow in Oslo now .-) http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/44-440999/440654_1280x10

Re: PESO - John of the Jet Fuel

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
Nice shots... I love those small independant coffe houses. Do they make their own doughnuts as well? On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:12 , frank theriault wrote: Nick's ~Sip Locally~ has inspired me to post these two. I've shown photos taken inside my favorite coffee shop before, but I'm not sure if

Re: PESO: Fogbound and silenced

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
Beautiful rendition of that quiet moment. On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:21 , Tim Bray wrote: We've had steady fog for days, which normally keeps the camera in the pocket. This is a 4-second (!) shot with the 50-135. Yes, it really was that colour: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/01/16/F

Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-27 Thread ann sanfedele
David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote: ps: Seriously, it's a tequila bar (although they have some nice beer, including the stout I was drinking all night), so to answer all those who asked, he's likely holding a shot of tequila. Thanks to all those wh

Re: PESO - Natural Stained Glass

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:36 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/stained.htm Comments welcome. The cropping is up to you. I like it the way it is. Nice capture of the sunlight through the leaves! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac

Re: PESO: Lebanese Picnic

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
Nice colorful composition, Paul.. On Feb 27, 2009, at 13:56 , Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8647234&size=lg Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, wrote: > (Though since that  is a brand name, maybe Mark can't mark it.) You're talking about a guy who just put together a book with "Pentax" all over it, and got Pentax to put out a press release about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:/

Re: PESO: Fogbound and silenced

2009-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Tim Bray wrote: We've had steady fog for days, which normally keeps the camera in the pocket. This is a 4-second (!) shot with the 50-135. Yes, it really was that colour: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/01/16/Fog You have a big pocket the camera is

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Cotty wrote: The cocking of the shutter does it for me oh yeah baby. LOL ... just stroke that baby until you're ready to shoot, eh? ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Thank you

2009-02-27 Thread Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh
Dear Pentaxian, Thank you very much for kind support and sharing your experience. This group is very resourceful, considering that I am amateur photographer. Seeing pictures that Christine Aguila shared, and checking the difference between 30mm and 50mm on my FA-J 28mm-80mm, I decided to go for th

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Nick David Wright
Oh I read the entire thing. But just to give you a little background on myself ... I'm the guy who refuses to own a car and rides a bicycle everywhere. I'm also the guy that mows my lawn with a scythe and a manual power reel mower. And I'm also the guy that heats my home with wood. Oh and I'm

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 3:39:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I agree. There are more pleasures in reading than just reading. The physicality of the book is important. The smell of a new book, the progressive degradation of the spine as you read it. The ability

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Sandy Harris
Cotty wrote: > You could argue that the M8 would be my next step but I don't want to > move down ;-) Mark. > The cocking of the shutter does it for me oh yeah baby. > Mark twain. -- Sandy Harris, Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: on paper

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: ... Mass production books will soon be a thing of the past. Possibly. Print on demand books like these from blurb.com and other vendors seem to be on the rise, however. ...and if you sell 40 copies, you're a "best

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Bob W wrote: > I agree. There are more pleasures in reading than just reading. The > physicality of the book is important. Thanks Bob, really nicely put. All your aesthetic arguments are convincing, with the exception of weight-in-the-hand; many books are just t

RE: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Bob W
> You could argue that the M8 would be my next step but I don't want to > move down ;-) > > The cocking of the shutter does it for me oh yeah baby. > Yes, I think Leica need to rethink the shutter use on the M8 and M8.2. On the M8 it cocks the shutter automatically. The M8.2 gives you the optio

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: There are more pleasures in reading than just reading. From the article I referenced (that everyone, apparently, refuses to read): "Books? Every one of us in this room could write an anthem to the book. The feel of a fine binding, the smell of newly opened pages, the satisfying

Re: shooting green

2009-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: shooting green Wasn't there also something called, I think, "orthochromatic" film that was particularly sensitive to green? Yup, kinda. Ortho film could be handled under a red safelight. It wasn't that it was more green or b

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J" Subject: K20D shopping online What are the thoughts about ordering a K20D on line now that the prices came down.I have seen the price as low as 599.00...Thoughts please, thanks Joe At that price it's a steal. One way or the other. William Robb -

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >There are more pleasures in reading than just reading. Mark. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.n

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's a light refresh. New LCD, support for the Voigtlander Bessa grip >(also sold as an Epson) and SDHC support. Otherwise identical to >yours. Not interested in the slightest. A larger screen holds no interest - the current screen in fine, the

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Eugene Homme
Larry Colen wrote: I've had good luck with Abe's of Maine, also got good service from a place in New Jersey, but forgot their name. You're probable thinking of Tri-State. Actually Abe's (formerly of Brooklyn and even more formerly of Maine) now has its warehouse in NJ as well. -- PDML Pent

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Nick David Wright
Bob, that was incredible. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message > From: Bob W > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:39:04 PM > Subject: RE: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures) > > I agree. There are m

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 27/2/09, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>hi, >> >>will be of interest to quite a few here i think... >> >>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09022701epsonrd1xrangefinder.asp >> >>regards, subash > > Thanks Subers, I was so wrapped up in the

RE: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Bob W
> I don't happen to agree with you. A paperback book is about > as portable as > anything and less prone to accident. > > You can throw it down, bend the pages, leave it spread open > to where you > stopped, stuff it in anything, toss it across the room to a > friend, take it on a > camp

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Larry Colen
re: Abe's On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:58:27PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: # http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2003-p19-s1-d1.html Interesting. I got both my FZ50 and my FA31 from them. They had the best prices on each. They made token attempts to sell more stuff, but didn't push too hard. --

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Stenquist The Kindle isn't backlit. In fact, it uses power only to go to the next page. I haven't tried one, but it sounds like a workable alternative, and I've heard some good things about it.. Ultimately, devices like the Kindle -- but much better yet -- will replace paper boo

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 3:16:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: But I"m a realist. Mass production books will soon be a thing of the past. Paul == I'm a realist too. I don't think we are going to have the fully computerized, technical future we once

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: ... Mass production books will soon be a thing of the past. Possibly. Print on demand books like these from blurb.com and other vendors seem to be on the rise, however. Perhaps rather than having huge volumes of books printed, shipped, s

Re: shooting green

2009-02-27 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: shooting green Didn't Fuji Film have a long running advertising campaign that their film had an extra layer specifically for those hard to capture greens? Reala, and I believe the technology made it's way int

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I greatly prefer books to any kind of display device I've ever seen. I own some volumes that are more than 200 years old and others that I treasure because they moved me deeply. But I"m a realist. Mass production books will soon be a thing of the past. Paul On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Godfr

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What no reader device can replace ... aside from the obvious things that Marnie suggested, is the feel and smell of paper. Of the cover. Of turning a page. Or the little notes jotted in the margins of a print or book by a previous owner, a sense of passage through time. A book, like a fine

Re: new epson R-D1x

2009-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/09, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed: >hi, > >will be of interest to quite a few here i think... > >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09022701epsonrd1xrangefinder.asp > >regards, subash Thanks Subers, I was so wrapped up in the PDML book (review to follow later this weekend) that I miss

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:03 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/27/2009 2:54:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: The Kindle isn't backlit. In fact, it uses power only to go to the next page. I haven't tried one, but it sounds like a workable alternative,

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 2:54:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: The Kindle isn't backlit. In fact, it uses power only to go to the next page. I haven't tried one, but it sounds like a workable alternative, and I've heard some good things about it.. Ultimate

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: The Kindle isn't backlit. In fact, it uses power only to go to the next page. I haven't tried one, but it sounds like a workable alternative, and I've heard some good things about it.. Ultimately, devices like the Kindle -- but much better yet -- will replace paper books f

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2003-p19-s1-d1.html On Feb 27, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:48:09PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: # Ordering on line is fine, but go with a reputable supplier. I would # recommend B&H or amazon.com There are a few other reli

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Abe's of Maine has been the subject of numerous complaints. You can't go wrong with B&H or amazon.com. Most of the others can be problematic, even Adorama. Paul On Feb 27, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:48:09PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: # Ordering on line

Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)

2009-02-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Subash On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Bran Everseeking > wrote: >> to get windows 95 preloads at a "partner" rate ibm was required by MS to >> not market WARP. what theyt laked was the balls to take on ms at that >> time. > One

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:48:09PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: # Ordering on line is fine, but go with a reputable supplier. I would # recommend B&H or amazon.com There are a few other reliable dealers, but do a websearch on them first. There's a whole raft of places out of new york that are no

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
The Kindle isn't backlit. In fact, it uses power only to go to the next page. I haven't tried one, but it sounds like a workable alternative, and I've heard some good things about it.. Ultimately, devices like the Kindle -- but much better yet -- will replace paper books for novels, ordinar

Re: on paper (was: Re: Our Book and other book pictures)

2009-02-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/27/2009 2:22:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pedalingpr...@yahoo.com writes: I will cry the day the last newspaper, magazine or book for the common man are published. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ == I still think books may be aroun

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ordering on line is fine, but go with a reputable supplier. I would recommend B&H or amazon.com Paul On Feb 27, 2009, at 5:00 PM, J wrote: What are the thoughts about ordering a K20D on line now that the prices came down.I have seen the price as low as 599.00...Thoughts please, thanks Joe

Re: K20D shopping online

2009-02-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM, J <27...@comcast.net> wrote: > What are the thoughts about ordering a K20D on line now that the prices came > down.I have seen the price as low as 599.00...Thoughts please, thanks Joe It's $709.95 at B&H (body only), and $690.20 at Amazon. I trust those two retai

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