PESO Beyond Hope

2014-01-04 Thread Larry Colen
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Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
+1 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 7:41 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > They want me to login to vote. Sorry I wouldn't be a member of DPReview, I > just don't see the need. > > > On 1/4/2014 5:31 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> DPR is running another poll. The K-3 is trailing the EM1 by 10%. We >> can't have that

Re: Boris PESO #1 and seasonal greetings

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce
I like the layers and the subtle lighting. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > Hello there :-). > > Here's a quick grab I made yesterday: > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/2014-01-etude.html > > It had to be very quick indeed. In f

Re: PESO - Snowy Way to Work

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce
Nice shot! The shadows are very cool. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Jan 4, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > > I took a little time going to work yesterday. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17644148&size=lg > > or > > http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17644148-lg.jpg > > (K

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread P.J. Alling
On 1/4/2014 4:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you "NEED" permits you to t

Question - how to achieve this effect in LR (or PS)?

2014-01-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
In LR, when you hold Alt and move the "sharpen radius" slider, LR shows essentially the edge of the objects. Is it possible achieve that effect in the actual image in LR? If not, - what would be the easiest way to reproduce that in Photoshop? (I've done something along the way last time a couple

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread P.J. Alling
They want me to login to vote. Sorry I wouldn't be a member of DPReview, I just don't see the need. On 1/4/2014 5:31 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: DPR is running another poll. The K-3 is trailing the EM1 by 10%. We can't have that, now can we? http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/03/which-is-the-bes

Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 submission form is live now

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Me too, Ann. Feels good to tick off items on my ToDo list. :-) I only hope Bob's head doesn't blow off. I just watched Fellini's Satyricon and I'm pretty sure I've reached my limit for foreign decapitations. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Ok - I got mine in early this t

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
My bad. Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > But of you have ten buns and one guest takes two and the other takes three, > one has ten percent more than the other. And here the votes are being counted > as a percentage of the total. > > Paul via phone > >>

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's true. But weren't we talking percentage points? Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage_point > >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Paul Stenquist >>> wrote: >>>

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Bob W wrote: > The K-5 has 62.5% of the available K so it must be a better camera. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperkalemia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Bob W
The K-5 has 62.5% of the available K so it must be a better camera. B > On 5 Jan 2014, at 00:19, Zos Xavius wrote: > > My K-5 is still my favorite camera, but a K-3 would likely change that > perception pretty quickly. > >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Paul Stenquist >> wrote: >> No. It’s

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > If you have two ten oz cups and fill one with three oz of water, the other > with two oz of water, it is absolutely accurate to say that one has 30% more > water in it than the other. We would have killed for ten oz cups Dave > > That i

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Zos Xavius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage_point On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Paul Stenquist > wrote: > >> But of you have ten buns and one guest takes two and the other takes three, >> one has ten percent more than the other. > > Nope. One

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >>I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >>"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. > > What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital. > Back in the days of film I

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > But of you have ten buns and one guest takes two and the other takes three, > one has ten percent more than the other. Nope. One has 50% more than the other. I don't have the NYT Manual of Style and Usage, but the Google Books search reve

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Confusing to use percentages or percent points when comparing two > percent figures. Kind of hard to compare them without using one or the other, and the term "percentage point" is specifically intended to avoid confusion. -- PDML Pentax-Di

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Zos Xavius
I actually have pneumonia right now, so critical thinking is really not my strong suite today, but you are all actually correct. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Confusing to use percentages or percent points when comparing two > percent figures. > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
But of you have ten buns and one guest takes two and the other takes three, one has ten percent more than the other. And here the votes are being counted as a percentage of the total. Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > If you have two ten oz cups and fill

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Bill wrote: > > > Most people don't care enough about photography to spend the money on a 77mm > LTD anyway. And that why i have one Dave > > bill > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNS

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Confusing to use percentages or percent points when comparing two percent figures. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > >> You have a funny way of doing math. 100% is the total. > > No, he does math correctly, and knows the dif

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you have two ten oz cups and fill one with three oz of water, the other with two oz of water, it is absolutely accurate to say that one has 30% more water in it than the other. That is exactly what I'm saying about the relative positions of the K-3 vs E-M1 in this stupid poll. Godfrey --

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > You have a funny way of doing math. 100% is the total. No, he does math correctly, and knows the difference between "percentage points" and "percent." 22% is 11 percentage points less than 33%. It is not 11% less. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Zos Xavius
You have a funny way of doing math. 100% is the total. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Um, I have done the math. > 22% is an approximately 30% lower rating than 33%. It's 11% less when > considering a score of 100%, which NO camera will get. > > G > > On Jan 4, 2014, at

Re: PESO: Stained Glass

2014-01-04 Thread Attila Boros
Thanks, Frank. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:49 AM, knarf wrote: > I really like this one and I am not sure why. > > That single bright stained glass window against the two dark ones really > works. > > Just lovely! > > Cheers, > > frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Um, I have done the math. 22% is an approximately 30% lower rating than 33%. It's 11% less when considering a score of 100%, which NO camera will get. G On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > No. It’s 33% for the EM1. 22% for the K-3. You have to do the math:-) The K-3 > is my

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Zos Xavius
My K-5 is still my favorite camera, but a K-3 would likely change that perception pretty quickly. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > No. It’s 33% for the EM1. 22% for the K-3. You have to do the math:-) The K-3 > is my favorite camera nowadays. > On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:58 PM,

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth' From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell On 4/1/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleas

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
Great to hear Paul! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: The Pentax CES Display... They provide pro service and have loaned some lenses, so I'm happy to provide the photo. I'm liking the Ricoh market

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm glad that works for you. My experience with Sigma was not positive, I need weather sealing, and I could never part with the. 60-250, best lens I've ever owned. Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: > > Paul my mainstay lenses are now all Sigma, 10-20/3.5, 17-50

Re: PESO: Stained Glass

2014-01-04 Thread knarf
I really like this one and I am not sure why. That single bright stained glass window against the two dark ones really works. Just lovely! Cheers, frank Attila Boros wrote: >Forgot to put "PESO" in the subject, sorry for that. > > >On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Attila Boros >wrote: >> Look

Re: Boris PESO #1 and seasonal greetings

2014-01-04 Thread knarf
That is beautiful! Perfectly timed, spare and simple composition, gorgeous colours. Couldn't be better imho. Cheers, frank Boris Liberman wrote: >Hello there :-). > >Here's a quick grab I made yesterday: > >http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/2014-01-etude.html > >It had to be very quick

Re: PESO - Snowy Way to Work

2014-01-04 Thread knarf
Agree with Bruce and adopt his reasons. Cheers, frank Bruce Walker wrote: >Beautiful and sombre, Rick. Well done. > >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Rick Womer >wrote: >> I took a little time going to work yesterday. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17644148&size=lg >> >> or >> >>

Re: PESO -- Swinging out in Red Rocks ...

2014-01-04 Thread knarf
Works for me! Cheers, frank Igor Roshchin wrote: > > >A question from Marnie about LV reminded me that I had a photo taken at >the >Red Rock Park that was posted online. > >It was not perfect technically (for a variety of reasons, objective and >subjective), - but it was still a fun setting. >L

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Rob Studdert
Paul my mainstay lenses are now all Sigma, 10-20/3.5, 17-50/2.8, 70-200/2.8 and 50/1.4, they are all fast and quiet using HSM focusing, they are very well built and have excellent image quality. Notably they are all far better value than their equivalent Pentax counterparts though none offer weathe

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
No. It’s 33% for the EM1. 22% for the K-3. You have to do the math:-) The K-3 is my favorite camera nowadays. On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Um, it looks closer to 30% now. > I don't see the point of the poll, but the E-M1 is my favorite camera > nowadays. > > G > > >

Re: Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Um, it looks closer to 30% now. I don't see the point of the poll, but the E-M1 is my favorite camera nowadays. G On Jan 4, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > DPR is running another poll. The K-3 is trailing the EM1 by 10%. We > can't have that, now can we? > > http://www.dpreview.com/new

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Rob Studdert
My Sony RX100II is truly pocket-able and has an integrated 28/1.8 equivalent lens, the Panasonic is very small but you still need to add a lens but in both cases neither are even close to replacing an SLR for so many types of photography that I do. I use the camera in my Android phone exensively to

Another dpreview poll!

2014-01-04 Thread Zos Xavius
DPR is running another poll. The K-3 is trailing the EM1 by 10%. We can't have that, now can we? http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/03/which-is-the-best-of-the-best-vote-for-your-product-of-the-year-readers-poll Rally the troops! ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 4, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Attila, you have to realize that this Sigma has nothing on the market to > compare it to. DA* 16-50 is a different lens. It has WR, it is wider and > longer as far as zoom range goes, while Sigma boasts tremendous image quality > and the USB

PESO -- Swinging out in Red Rocks ...

2014-01-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
A question from Marnie about LV reminded me that I had a photo taken at the Red Rock Park that was posted online. It was not perfect technically (for a variety of reasons, objective and subjective), - but it was still a fun setting. Looking at it now, I am thinkging that it could also be sharpen

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>>My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >>>this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >>>seriously real deal. >>

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Attila Boros wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> Attila, you have to realize that this Sigma has nothing on the market to >> compare it to. DA* 16-50 is a different lens. It has WR, it is wider and >> longer as far as zoom range goes, while S

RE: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell > > On 4/1/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Speaking of litmus, we have now a proper photography store > in Tel Aviv. > > Ah but is it kosher?? > of course not - photo shops are subject to canon law

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Attila, you have to realize that this Sigma has nothing on the market to > compare it to. DA* 16-50 is a different lens. It has WR, it is wider and > longer as far as zoom range goes, while Sigma boasts tremendous image > quality and the USB

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> Paul via phone >> >>> On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> >>> Bruce Walker wrote: >>> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: > John wrote: >

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/14, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >Surely you can buy whatever vehicle you feel you want to, but I >reserve the right to think you're daft if you decide that a road >grader is appropriate transportation for daily commuting. That's just ridiculous!! You'd never need anything mo

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >Speaking of litmus, we have now a proper photography store in Tel Aviv. Ah but is it kosher?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- P

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: > some of you guys continue to yearn for a FF Pentax) Because I can ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List P

Re: Boris PESO #1 and seasonal greetings

2014-01-04 Thread Attila Boros
I like the layers of mountains and the nice sky. In the overcast winter days, it's a rare sight here. Happy New Year! On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hello there :-). > > Here's a quick grab I made yesterday: > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/2014-01-etude.htm

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >Paul via phone > >> On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> Bruce Walker wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: > I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you > "NEED" pe

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts >wrote: >> Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>>On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >>>wrote: John wrote: >I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'

Re: PESO - Snowy Way to Work

2014-01-04 Thread Attila Boros
Nice photo, I like those shadows. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > I took a little time going to work yesterday. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17644148&size=lg > > or > > http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17644148-lg.jpg > > (K-5, FA 28/2.8) > > Comments? > > Rick >

Re: PESO: Stained Glass

2014-01-04 Thread Attila Boros
Thanks, Bruce, it's a good critique. What I really liked was the illuminated window, I tried to position myself so that all tree of them would be illuminated, but that's not possible. I literally hit a wall. Failing to do that I tried to show the contrast between illuminated and dark windows. Maybe

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bruce Walker wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you "NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm all

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
They provide pro service and have loaned some lenses, so I'm happy to provide the photo. I'm liking the Ricoh marketing people. They've gone to bat for me with CRIS and the Pentax old guard. Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:11 PM, "Ken Waller" wrote: > > Way to go Paul! > If I remember c

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Bruce Walker wrote: > >>On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >>wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you "NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. >>> >>> Wha

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >>> this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >>> seriously

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >wrote: >> John wrote: >> >>>I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >>>"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. >> >> What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
Way to go Paul! If I remember correctly, it along with some others of yours were included in the 'Premiere Collection'. Are they doing anything other than including you name with the image ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Pa

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >>I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >>"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. > > What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital. > Back in the days of film I

Re: Boris PESO #1 and seasonal greetings

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Gorgeous, Boris! And my wishes for an enlightening 2014 to you too. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hello there :-). > > Here's a quick grab I made yesterday: > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/2014-01-etude.html > > It had to be very quick indeed. In fact, one

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Excellent! Let me know when your balsa wood jetliner is ready for its maiden voyage and I shall be there with my K-3 to document it. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution > has nothing to with material

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Bob W
> >> On 1/3/2014 7:41 AM, Miserere wrote: >> Boris Liberman wrote: >> Both are signs of the impending apocalypse, no doubt. >> Cheers, > You can start worrying when you see 4 of these coming over the horizon: http://www.adorama.com/HM21412.html B > If, as the prophecy has it, the K-3's with

Re: PESO - Pacific Sunset

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
The "nearly missed" gulls at the bottom complete the scene. They're another image in themselves. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: PESO - Pacific Sunset The "nearly missed" gulls at the bottom compl

Boris PESO #1 and seasonal greetings

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Hello there :-). Here's a quick grab I made yesterday: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/2014-01-etude.html It had to be very quick indeed. In fact, one might say I missed the perfect timing as the sun was setting down... And of course - happy new 2014 year! Let is be peaceful and he

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Bruce, let me suggest to you ever so humbly that the precision of execution has nothing to with material used... On 1/4/2014 9:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: My point is that miniaturization is reachi

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote: >I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital. Back in the days of film I don't recall anyone who expressed interest in buying a Pentax

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
I'm totally LOLing right now... On 1/4/2014 9:32 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I think that's Cole's Law. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Well, as Pentax/Ricoh perceive themselves getting higher up the market ladder, they rack up the prices... Sigma is how much - like USD 800

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on Voigtlander Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very small. And to boot it naturally covers the so called full frame. The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is also very small. So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
I think that's Cole's Law. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Well, as Pentax/Ricoh perceive themselves getting higher up the market > ladder, they rack up the prices... Sigma is how much - like USD 800 MSRP? > > But that's beside the point. I believe that DA*16-50 is priced

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And >> this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is >> seriously real deal. > > Yes and no -- real glass requires

Re: PESO: Stained Glass

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Honestly, I'm scratching my head over this one, Attila. It doesn't grab me but I love the colour in the illuminated window and the walls. I'm not sure what's bothering me -- I think it must be the two dark windows. I'd have tried zooming in on just the single light window and surroundings, myself.

Re: Crane worker takes photos

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Some stunning shots there. I couldn't be coerced up there, but kudos to him. :-) On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Attila Boros wrote: > http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/12/31/wei-gensheng-gets-cranes-eye-view-shanghai-2000-feet-high/ > > He sure has a heck of a vantage point! > > -- > PDML Pen

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > > My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And > this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is > seriously real deal. Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk. I agree that most people (who don't c

Re: dos Pesos : but only one cat

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
Nicely captured fire escapes Ann. Playful looking cat ! Nice work. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" Subject: dos Pesos : but only one cat Not a cat - http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-re

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, as Pentax/Ricoh perceive themselves getting higher up the market ladder, they rack up the prices... Sigma is how much - like USD 800 MSRP? But that's beside the point. I believe that DA*16-50 is priced similarly to 17-55/2.8 offerings from Canon and Nikon. I've just looked up prices on B

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
I'm floored by the price of a new DA*16-50 - 1296.95 - I got mine way back when for less than half that ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: DPReview readers love the K-3 Attila, you have to realiz

Re: PESO - Snowy Way to Work

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Beautiful and sombre, Rick. Well done. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > I took a little time going to work yesterday. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17644148&size=lg > > or > > http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17644148-lg.jpg > > (K-5, FA 28/2.8) > > Comments? > > Ri

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is seriously real deal. On 1/4/2014 8:54 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: On 1/2/2014 6:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.newy

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 1/2/2014 6:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >>http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html > > Darren, have you held in your hands Panasonic GM1 and the pancake > kit zoom lens? Yeah, I have (renting one right now from le

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/3/2014 7:41 AM, Miserere wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Both are signs of the impending apocalypse, no doubt. Cheers, If, as the prophecy has it, the K-3's with 18-35/1.8 attached will starting falling out of the (not so) blue sky, the outcome may be rather devastating indeed. Cheek p

Re: Goodbye, Cameras

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/2/2014 6:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/goodbye-cameras.html Darren, have you held in your hands Panasonic GM1 and the pancake kit zoom lens? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Interesting read indeed, Cotty. And a litmus test too... Speaking of litmus, we have now a proper photography store in Tel Aviv. Paid it a visit few days ago and got to handle Canon 6D with 24-70/2.8L... The camera is fab, the lens is out of my desire zone... Boris On 1/4/2014 12:00 AM, Stev

Re: DPReview readers love the K-3

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Attila, you have to realize that this Sigma has nothing on the market to compare it to. DA* 16-50 is a different lens. It has WR, it is wider and longer as far as zoom range goes, while Sigma boasts tremendous image quality and the USB dock so that you could play with your copy to your heart li

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Like a good wine, you're getting better as you age, Paul :-). Terrific news, excellent photograph, a great person behind the camera. My pleasure and honor to know you even if only as an online person and a voice over the phone. Boris On 1/2/2014 10:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: ...will incl

PESO - Snowy Way to Work

2014-01-04 Thread Rick Womer
I took a little time going to work yesterday. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17644148&size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17644148-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRI

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Miserere
John wrote: >On 1/4/2014 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: >> Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Interesting read. >> >> Thanks Cotty. >> >> Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same >> point for years (though some

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Miserere
John wrote: >On 1/4/2014 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: >> Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Interesting read. >> >> Thanks Cotty. >> >> Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same >> point for years (though some

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
Hi Paul, Congrats! I remember this photo very well, - I've seen it here, on PDML, and remember seeing it on PG. I am honored to have argued on Photography-related issues with you. :-) Cheers, Igor > On 2 Jan 2014, at 20:35, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > ...will include one of my photos..Birmin

Re: Opinions on DA 17-70 f4

2014-01-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
Mark, While several PDMLers have already responded to your question, I will add my impression. I wrote about this lens a few times earlier here. Here is my message from half a year ago: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/352571.html You can see other opinions on the same thread.

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread John
On 1/4/2014 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Interesting read. Thanks Cotty. Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same point for years (though some of you guys continue to yearn for a F

Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?

2014-01-04 Thread John
Hoover Dam is nearby. I think you can still drive across it, even though they've built a new bypass. On 1/4/2014 9:07 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I went to Fire Valley or The valley of Fire, i forget what the actual name is, not to far from Vegas. Great spot for photo ops. Dave On Sat, Dec 28,

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Rick Womer
Cotty's just looking for reassurance that his hat might stay on his head rather than landing on his plate. On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: > Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> >> Interesting read. > > Thanks Cotty. > > M

Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?

2014-01-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sat Jan 4 03:17:47 EST 2014 Miserere wrote: > Lastly, make sure to grab a burger and fries at one of the many In n' > Out joints in the area. Take a detour if need be. Seriously. Miserere, First, Marine lives in California, where In-n-Outs are present. Second, having lived in Southern Calif

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Chris Mitchell
Excellent! well done Paul. Good on Ricoh... Chris On 2 January 2014 20:35, Paul Stenquist wrote: > ...will include one of my photos—“Birmingham Gentleman.” The Ricoh marketing > people chose it after perusing the Pentax Gallery, and I provided a 50 meg. > tiff file. I believe they made a rathe

Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?

2014-01-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Marnie got the Red Rock recommendation from me at least a week ago so I think she might get over there ann On 1/4/2014 03:17, Miserere wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: Sorry, I didn't see this question until now. I hope it is not too late. While I like Venetian and went there many times, I didn'

Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?

2014-01-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sat Jan 4 00:12:06 EST 2014 David Mann wrote: > On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:36 pm, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > 4. I second Ken's suggestion for Red Rock Park. > > I don't have my photos posted, but my wife has a bunch from almost > > exactly a year ago: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jprusakova/sets

Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?

2014-01-04 Thread David J Brooks
I went to Fire Valley or The valley of Fire, i forget what the actual name is, not to far from Vegas. Great spot for photo ops. Dave On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote: > Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in > town, or out? > > Going with a friend in abo

Re: The Pentax CES Display...

2014-01-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Hi Paul, I remember well that photo. Big congrats! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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