Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
You would. Although there can be times when slight underexposure is a plus in that it can help extend the high end range. But more than a stop is just wanking. Paul via phone On May 19, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Ken Waller wrote: >> Lightroom only allows a few stops of exposure compensation, and it

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Ken Waller
Lightroom only allows a few stops of exposure compensation, and it is very easy to exceed that range. Why wouldn't you try to get the exposure right in camera ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Can h

Re: Where are you located? (Lurkers also welcome to reply.)

2016-05-18 Thread Peter Loveday
Adelaide, SA, Australia here. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

PESO: High Cloud

2016-05-18 Thread David Mann
One from Feburary. I was on my way back from walking along the lake shore (Lake Wanaka) when I noticed this cloud that appeared to be towering over the mountains. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1017/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

PESO - Shadows

2016-05-18 Thread Rick Womer
More from the cemetery: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18233420 (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow t

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On May 18, 2016 1:13:42 PM PDT, Mark Roberts wrote: I know most recent Pentax cameras are ISO invariant and I expect the K-1 is, also. Does this mean that you don't get any advantage from shooting a higher iso rather than under exposing at a lower I

Re: PESO moss garden

2016-05-18 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thanks, Jack. On 18 May 2016 at 12:16, Jack Davis wrote: > A unique natural scene, Eric! > J > Sent from my iPhone > > >> On May 17, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Eric Featherstone >> wrote: >> >> Again, from Kyoto, but on the western side this time in the Arashiyama >> district. >> >> I'd been planning t

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
The article underscores what experience has taught me. Paul via phone > On May 18, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Larry Colen wrote: > >> >> >>> On May 18, 2016 1:13:42 PM PDT, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: >>> I know most recent Pentax cameras are ISO invariant and I expect the >>> K

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: > > >On May 18, 2016 1:13:42 PM PDT, Mark Roberts >wrote: >>I know most recent Pentax cameras are ISO invariant and I expect the >>K-1 is, also. > >Does this mean that you don't get any advantage from shooting a higher iso >rather than under exposing at a lower ISO? https://

Re: Book arrived

2016-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
On May 18, 2016 9:00:58 AM PDT, David J Brooks wrote: >My copy arrived yesterday. Just had a look see. Another great >production from mark and crew. Photos are excellent. I have noticed >that every year mine seem to get farther to the back. I see a trend >here.:-) > Your photos for the 2017 ann

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
On May 18, 2016 1:13:42 PM PDT, Mark Roberts wrote: >I know most recent Pentax cameras are ISO invariant and I expect the >K-1 is, also. Does this mean that you don't get any advantage from shooting a higher iso rather than under exposing at a lower ISO? > -- Sent from my Android phone wit

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
I know most recent Pentax cameras are ISO invariant and I expect the K-1 is, also. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the lin

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Gonz
I believe that there is an analog portion to the circuitry before it gets to the A/D converter. And this analog portion includes a programmable amplifier. So the A/D is always giving you all the bits, its just that at higher amplifications for higher ISO, the noise factor is much higher. On Wed

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Ken Waller
I'm pretty sure you're over-thinking this. MARK ! covers alot of PDML traffic ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John" Subject: Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene. I'm pretty sure you're over

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread John
I'm pretty sure you're over-thinking this. On 5/18/2016 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I expect that the answer to this question is "Yes, but it makes no practical difference". Let's say a camera has a 12 bit D/A and at base ISO of 100 has 10 stops of dynamic range. In theory the chart would look

Re: Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Jostein
Howcome the same data are spread over a larger contrast range when you increase the ISO? Jostein Den 18.05.2016 20.37, skrev Larry Colen: I expect that the answer to this question is "Yes, but it makes no practical difference". Let's say a camera has a 12 bit D/A and at base ISO of 100 has 10

Can higher ISO give you more info about a low contrast scene.

2016-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
I expect that the answer to this question is "Yes, but it makes no practical difference". Let's say a camera has a 12 bit D/A and at base ISO of 100 has 10 stops of dynamic range. In theory the chart would look something like this: DR ISO __ _ 10 100 09 200 08 400 0

Re: AARGH! Wrong edition!

2016-05-18 Thread Toine
Yes Please! I still need to order (searching for a discount code) and last year it slipped my mind On 18 May 2016 at 16:19, Rick Womer wrote: > In my eager haste I find that I ordered the 2015 book from Blurb instead of > this years. Oy. > > New order being placed, and gratification delayed a co

Book arrived

2016-05-18 Thread David J Brooks
My copy arrived yesterday. Just had a look see. Another great production from mark and crew. Photos are excellent. I have noticed that every year mine seem to get farther to the back. I see a trend here.:-) Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecount

Re: PDML Annual 2016: Salon des Refusés

2016-05-18 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Mark Roberts wrote: > >>Ken Waller wrote: >> >>>Submitted but apparently not used - >>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18060138 >> >>Check out page 6... > > Also pages 7, 11 and 101. I peered at all those pages with a magnifying glass

AARGH! Wrong edition!

2016-05-18 Thread Rick Womer
In my eager haste I find that I ordered the 2015 book from Blurb instead of this years. Oy. New order being placed, and gratification delayed a couple more weeks. Anyone want a 2015 PDML book? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PDML Annual 2016: Salon des Refusés

2016-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: >Ken Waller wrote: > >>Submitted but apparently not used - >>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18060138 > >Check out page 6... Also pages 7, 11 and 101. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: PDML Annual 2016: Salon des Refusés

2016-05-18 Thread ann sanfedele
That sent me back to page 6 and Eureka! saw mine too so lets just say the Salon de Refuses is for photos that didn't get a full page :-) When I got the PDF I naturally looked at all the big photos , read quotes, etc... ann On 5/18/2016 8:19 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Ken Waller wrote: Sub

Re: PDML Annual 2016: Salon des Refusés

2016-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote: >Submitted but apparently not used - >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18060138 Check out page 6... -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UN

Re: PESO moss garden

2016-05-18 Thread Jack Davis
A unique natural scene, Eric! J Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Eric Featherstone > wrote: > > Again, from Kyoto, but on the western side this time in the Arashiyama > district. > > I'd been planning to go to tenryuji (literally heavenly dragon temple) > to see the dragon