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pentax-discuss-d Digest                         Volume 05 : Issue 1146

Today's Topics:
  Re: Paranoid question of the week...  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: PESO: another shot from the Live  [ Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
]
  Re: Understanding exposure? Recommen  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: stupid digital camera and filter  [ Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Raw                               [ Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Ann's Question About Filters on   [ Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: A digital photographer's maxim    [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: New 6x7                           [ "William Robb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: Pentax 16-45/4 or Sigma 18-50/2,  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: Okular                            [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: Raw                               [ "Shel Belinkoff"
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  Re: Paranoid question of the week...  [ Godfrey DiGiorgi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Black KX AND Black MX Web Page    [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Understanding exposure? Recommen  [ "Shel Belinkoff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: Raw                               [ "Shel Belinkoff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: OT: I'm Back -- Follow Up on Ima  [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Pentax 16-45/4 or Sigma 18-50/2,  [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Pentax 16-45/4 or Sigma 18-50/2,  [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #112  [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  RE: Understanding exposure? Recommen  [ "Jens Bladt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: The Rule                          [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: better living through electricit  [ "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: Understanding exposure? Recommen  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: PESO - My Buddy Buzz 2005         [ "Christian"
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  Re: Pentax 16-45/4 or Sigma 18-50/2,  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Re: Understanding exposure? Recommen  [ "David Zaninovic"
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  Re: Paranoid question of the week...  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:49:48 +0300
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I just created a utility like this in 4 minutes with AppleScript on Mac
> OS X and checked it with a data recovery utility. All I get from the
> data recovery effort is random noise back from the last iteration of
> the write loop. It's pretty efficient, takes only about thirty seconds
> to run on a 1G card.

Godfrey, I did not know you and I were kindred spirits ;)... Though I
am Unix/Windows guy. No experience with Mighty Mac.

-- 
Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:51:36 -0700
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Glad it isn't sharp!
Powell

>
>
>A quick point-and-grab from the pub tent:
>
>  <URL:http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/scary.jpg>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:47:46 +0300
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi!

> So what, you captured all the details, just use Photoshop and make the
door white or black. :)

May I interject... Thank you.

Correct exposure is about saving information, the information provided
by the light. If you misexposed, you lost some information forever. No
PhotoShop can get it to you if it hasn't been recorded...

Hence correct exposure does matter. May be not in the case of a door though
:).

-- 
Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:51:22 -0400
From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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pardon me list for leaving all the stuff he wrote
in replying -
that's how I save things - I never empty my "sent"
mailbox :)

Good info - of course I need to get some sort of
filter immediately
I simply cant keep a lens cap from getting lost...
and even if the
filter is next to useless it you can shoot in a
hurry with it in place
and it keeps the lens safe.

ann


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> On May 19, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> > Now I can.... but do they work the same way? that
> > is have the same effect?
> >
> > A red filter on my darkside PRO 1 and camera set
> > to BW acheive the
> > same effect as a red filter on my lx?
> 
> Approximately, yes, depending upon the sensor's spectral sensitivity.
> 
> In general, to work B&W with a digital camera you get a lot more
> control of the rendering by capturing in RGB color and then using image
> processing software to mix channels down to B&W. You can then adjust
> the RGB values to emulate the response of your favorite B&W films plus
> all the Yellow, Orange, Green, Blue, etc traditional B&W filters. There
> are also plug-ins available that have pre-canned such adjustments (and
> film grain effects of popular emulsions) giving you a lot more
> flexibility than the in-camera B&W capture option.
> 
> The in-camera B&W capture option is generally doing the effective
> equivalent of a Channel Mixer with 20% Red, 75% Green and 5% Blue
> settings in most cameras I've played with that have one.
> 
> > Without getting into to much technobabble - what
> > about a polarizer?
> 
> Polarizers work as polarizers always do. The effect might not be easily
> visible as you rotate the filter on the Pro-1's EVF because the EVF is
> somewhat low resolution ... I always found it easier with an EVF camera
> to manage a polarizer the same way I did for rangefinder cameras:
> rotate the filter looking through it with your eye, check the
> orientation of an index mark, then fit it and place the index where it
> ought to be.
> 
> > UV filter?
> 
> Digital sensors have very little to no UV sensitivity and white balance
> adjustments take care of warming up the blue tint from photos taken
> under open blue sky. A UV filter basically has no useful function on a
> digital camera as a result ...  The only useful function for this class
> of filter (UV, Skylight 1a, etc) is for occasionally protecting the
> front element of the lens when you're shooting in conditions of flying
> debris or water, when best resolution and flare prevention are
> secondary priorities.
> 
> ND filters, both full and partial, remain useful. I use an 8 or 9 stop
> ND filter occasionally for extended time exposure effects. I don't know
> how much the ND function in the Pro-1 nets you.
> 
> Godfrey

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:54:05 -0400
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Had I paid attention to the things that were explained here earlier, my
> photography would have improved sooner ;-))  I was foolish in dismissing
> some of the information presented here.
> 
> Shel

My problem is just absorbing it all!
ann :)



> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> 
> > Shel's comment is a perfect example of what I'm talking about in my
> > last response. Presenting an explanation to someone struggling with the
> > beginning steps of a new technology is a different exercise from
> > presenting an explanation of in-depth technical detail to someone who
> > is ready to learn and understand it.
> >
> > Godfrey
> >
> >
> > On May 19, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > > Just thought I =had= to jump in here.  At one time I felt a lot of the
> > > technical stuff discussed here was useless - certainly to me -  but as
> > > I
> > > got further into the craft of photography there were additional things
> > > I
> > > needed or wanted to know, and a lot of the info that I once dismissed
I
> > > suddenly became interested in and found a use for.

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:27 -0400
From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> The Yellow and No filter options show the differences that I would
> expect.  The red is hard to tell, it just looks under exposed.
> (Hard to tell anything on a web sized image I know but that's how it
> looks to me).

That was my impression also.  it aint just you :)
ann


> 
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> >I put up some examples now that I've had my morning brew:
> >
> >
> >http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/Filter%20Test/
> >
> >
> >
> >Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
>                         --Groucho Marx

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:58:02 +0300
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I would.

In fact, my MZ-6 is loaded with 400 ASA b/w film that I will slowly
shoot through in few weeks to come...


-- 
Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:49:36 -0600
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>>
>
> Yep, I think so. $450 Aussie with a 90mm leaf shutter lens. Non-TTL prism,

> and non MLU, but in very good condition. Even still has the doughnut.

Interesting, since the adaptor ring comes with the TTL finder.

William Robb 

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:00:11 +0300
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi!

> Of course, don't buy either of those plastic excuses for lenses. Get
> yourself a decent bit of glass - in fact, the only real portrait lens
> that Pentax ever made:
> 
> <http://tinyurl.com/9q7bj>

Cotty, what's wrong with FA 85/1.4?

-- 
Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:00:52 +0300
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Hi!

On 5/19/05, Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, while so many of us struggle for getting that extra detail, she
doesn't
> care and gets interesting pictures. Ponder...

Different eyes for different beholders...

-- 
Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:48:05 -0700
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Sure, but the thing is that I was made aware of things and techniques I
didn't know about, even if they were over my head or unimportant at the
time.  But the knowledge of such things stayed with me, ready to be called
up or investigated further when i was ready to use or explore the
information.  Had no one mentioned such things, I'd still be ignorant of
them.  It's something like learning about car engines.  Most people don't
need all the technical info about them.  But maybe one day they'll break
down somewhere, and the info will be helpful, even if only to know what
questions to ask of the repair person or to explain the problem clearly. 
IOW, even if the info has no immediate use, it may have future value.  The
more you know, the better your luck ;-))  But that's just me ... 

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

> But you weren't ready to listen to them and understand then, were you? 
> I've read you state on several occasions, even recently, 'Whoa, too 
> technical, too much math for me! ...'
>
> Godfrey
>
> On May 19, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> > Had I paid attention to the things that were explained here earlier, my
> > photography would have improved sooner ;-))  I was foolish in 
> > dismissing
> > some of the information presented here.
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >
> >> Shel's comment is a perfect example of what I'm talking about in my
> >> last response. Presenting an explanation to someone struggling with 
> >> the
> >> beginning steps of a new technology is a different exercise from
> >> presenting an explanation of in-depth technical detail to someone who
> >> is ready to learn and understand it.
> >>
> >> Godfrey
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 19, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just thought I =had= to jump in here.  At one time I felt a lot of 
> >>> the
> >>> technical stuff discussed here was useless - certainly to me -  but 
> >>> as
> >>> I
> >>> got further into the craft of photography there were additional 
> >>> things
> >>> I
> >>> needed or wanted to know, and a lot of the info that I once 
> >>> dismissed I
> >>> suddenly became interested in and found a use for.
> >
> >

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:01:21 -0700
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On May 19, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

>> I just created a utility like this in 4 minutes with AppleScript on 
>> Mac
>> OS X and checked it with a data recovery utility. All I get from the
>> data recovery effort is random noise back from the last iteration of
>> the write loop. It's pretty efficient, takes only about thirty seconds
>> to run on a 1G card.
>
> Godfrey, I did not know you and I were kindred spirits ;)... Though I
> am Unix/Windows guy. No experience with Mighty Mac.

We may be more kindred than you think. Mac OS X is built on a Mach UNIX 
kernel and has a full implementation of BSD command line utilities 
installed ...

I could have written the script in a range of different shell scripts, 
or Perl, or Ruby or Python or ... you name it. ;-)

Godfrey

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:02:00 +0100
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On 19/5/05, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>As promised, I have expanded the Black KX
>web page to also include the Black MX for
>comparison purposes. There is a side by
>side photo which clearly shows the size 
>difference in the two bodies for those interested.
>Enjoy,
>JCO
>
>http://www.jcoconnell.com/temp/blkkxmx.htm

Nice one, thanks John. There's not much in it. Actually the proportions
of the KX look better than the MX, but I vote with my heart, not my head ;-)

MX every time.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:02:36 -0700
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Boris ... you have learned well ;-))

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> Date: 5/19/2005 11:56:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?
>
> Hi!
>
> > So what, you captured all the details, just use Photoshop and make the
door white or black. :)
>
> May I interject... Thank you.
>
> Correct exposure is about saving information, the information provided
> by the light. If you misexposed, you lost some information forever. No
> PhotoShop can get it to you if it hasn't been recorded...
>
> Hence correct exposure does matter. May be not in the case of a door
though :).
>
> -- 
> Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:04:28 -0700
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Y'don't need to absorb it all right away, just be aware that it (whatever
"it" is) exists, and when you're ready, you'll at least know about it and
maybe have some basic understanding of the concept.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> Date: 5/19/2005 11:58:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Raw
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > 
> > Had I paid attention to the things that were explained here earlier, my
> > photography would have improved sooner ;-))  I was foolish in dismissing
> > some of the information presented here.
> > 
> > Shel
>
> My problem is just absorbing it all!
> ann :)
>
>
>
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > 
> > > Shel's comment is a perfect example of what I'm talking about in my
> > > last response. Presenting an explanation to someone struggling with
the
> > > beginning steps of a new technology is a different exercise from
> > > presenting an explanation of in-depth technical detail to someone who
> > > is ready to learn and understand it.
> > >
> > > Godfrey
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 19, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just thought I =had= to jump in here.  At one time I felt a lot of
the
> > > > technical stuff discussed here was useless - certainly to me -  but
as
> > > > I
> > > > got further into the craft of photography there were additional
things
> > > > I
> > > > needed or wanted to know, and a lot of the info that I once
dismissed I
> > > > suddenly became interested in and found a use for.

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:04:29 +0100
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Yo Marn, I thought you were a bit quiet ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:08:35 +0100
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> <http://tinyurl.com/9q7bj>


On 19/5/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk, discombobulated, unleashed:


>It's not the only one :-) There is still this one:
>http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/short-tele/FA85f1.4.html

That's not a lens, it's a radar dish with some aluminium foil wrapped
around it.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:09:42 +0100
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On 19/5/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty, what's wrong with FA 85/1.4?

Probably not a lot. I wouldn't have one stuck on any of my cameras though!!!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:10:30 +0100
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[entire digest snipped]

thanks a lot Ed


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:15:00 +0200
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So, you don't think it makes sence to learn about exposure?

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Emne: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?


So what, you captured all the details, just use Photoshop and make the door
white or black. :)

> The first lesson in exposure could very well be this:
> Photograph a black door - use the built-in meter default settings.
> Photograph a white door - use the built-in meter default settings.
>
> You'll end up with two IDENTICAL images: Two grey doors!
> When you figure out why, then you know the first and most important thing
> about exposure!
>
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:24:35 +0100
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I only have a few basic rules that I (probably subconsciously) use all
the time:

1. Shoot pictures from the heart, not the head.

2.  If it looks right, it is right.

3. Do it because you want to do it.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:32:51 +0200
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Enough a reason could probably be not enough power/duration.

Dario

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:44 PM
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> Anyone using the Alcava (or any other brand, if available) rechargeabe 
> alkaline batteries on the D/Ds?
> They are 1.5V instead of 1.2V, and they should probably fix such recurring

> problems I see reported here. I used them on my  MZ-S, with great 
> satisfaction. I've never tried them with the D, only because I've never 
> had "low voltage" problems with Ni-MH (so far).
>
> Any known reason for not using them?
>
> All the best,
>
> Dario
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Derby Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax Discuss" <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:50 PM
> Subject: better living through electricity, or charge them babies
>
>
>>
>> A few weeks ago,  I noticed that the istDS AF did funny things in low 
>> light with my 85mm/f1.4.  Occasionally, the camera wouldn't fire, even 
>> though I thought it was in focus (on a manually selected zone).  It 
>> wouldn't even bother to hunt. A little while later, it would be fine. And

>> then it would hunt on a perfectly brightly lit zone.  I thought this was 
>> because of the lens.
>>
>> Tried it with the 77mm LTD tonight. Worked fine for most of a 1GB card, 
>> then started doing it on the second card.
>>
>> D'oh. I think I know what it is. Once the batteries are partially 
>> depleted, and even though the rest of the camera fires fine, the AF seems

>> to be a bit sensitive to the power levels. Of course after a while the 
>> batteries recover if I go for a while without shooting.
>>
>> I'm using two sets of Sony 2300mAH NiMH's. I think I might buy a few 
>> more.
>>
>> -- 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:35:40 +0300
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi!

On 5/19/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Boris ... you have learned well ;-))

I've had very good teachers...

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Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:38:14 -0400
From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Awesome detail, Mark.  I hate you... :-)

Christian

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> I always warm up for insect shooting by photographing the first bugs 
> available, which are usually flies.
> 
> So in this cold and crappy spring here finally is are a couple of  bug 
> photos - Buzz 2005:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/temp/peso/IMGP0283.jpg
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/temp/peso/IMGP0267.jpg
> 
> *ist-D, A*200 f4 macro, AF360 FGZ flash, monopod.
> 
> - MCC
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Mark Cassino Photography
> Kalamazoo, MI
> www.markcassino.com
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> 

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:36:47 +0300
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi!

> >Cotty, what's wrong with FA 85/1.4?
> 
> Probably not a lot. I wouldn't have one stuck on any of my cameras
though!!!

Which forces me to keep asking this question - but why?!

If you see fit, please reply off-list.

-- 
Boris

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:39:59 -0400
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Here is my philosophy.  If the light is even it will be hard to do something
wrong, matrix metering should take care of exposure
well and will capture all the detail as that is what matrix metering does
best, it is easy to make corrections in Photoshop using
levels.  If the light is not even, make it even using flash, graduated
filter or collapsible reflector/diffuser.  If you don't have
any control over the light then you worry about exposure and what part of
the picture you will lose but there is a good chance that
the picture will not be so good because of too high contrast of the scene
you are trying to capture.  There are some exclusions to
this but in 99% of cases it works fine for me, especially because I shoot in
raw format and know how to use shadow/highlight detail
tool in Photoshop. :)

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> Hi!
>
> > So what, you captured all the details, just use Photoshop and make the
door white or black. :)
>
> May I interject... Thank you.
>
> Correct exposure is about saving information, the information provided
> by the light. If you misexposed, you lost some information forever. No
> PhotoShop can get it to you if it hasn't been recorded...
>
> Hence correct exposure does matter. May be not in the case of a door
though :).
>
> -- 
> Boris
>

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:38:24 +0300
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Paranoid question of the week...
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My script language of choice is C++ :).

But then again, this is how I earn my bread...

-- 
Boris

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