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pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 1971
Today's Topics:
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of K [ "Doug Franklin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens [ Dave Kennedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
New Digital SLR Products From Pentax [ Joseph Tainter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
RE: PAW thumbnail page [ Unca Mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: accidentally enabled with a 77mm [ David Savage
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of K [ Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: OT: Aus import matters [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
RE: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ "Don Sanderson"
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Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (l [ Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ "Christian"
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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ Paul Stenquist
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Re: OT: Photographing insects [ Mark Roberts
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Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens [ Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Paw: Five Foot High by Five Foot Wid [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: PAW thumbnail page [ Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Re: OT: Aus import matters [ "Ryan Lee"
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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ "Peter Loveday"
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Re: PAW thumbnail page [ Unca Mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: The Photographer's Rights [ Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ Bruce Dayton
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Re: A couple of PESOs [ Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of K [ Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: PAW thumbnail page [ "Shel Belinkoff"
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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ Charles Robinson
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RE: New Digital SLR Products From Pe [ "Shel Belinkoff"
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:18:52 -0400
From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax-discuss@pdml.net" <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:54:57 +0200, Frantisek wrote:
>> And if you don't think there will be hand shaking with opposite
>> polarity
>> extremists, you really don't know extremists in reality (which is
>> probably a good thing for you!).
F> And I don't even know how to respond to that statement...
I simply meant that there are many cases of e.g.
left-wing extremists becoming right-wing extremists or vice versa.
Actually, it means that they use the same methods: suppressive
dictatorships, "convert or die", regardless of whether they claim to be
right- or left-wing.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:37:29 -0400
From: Dave Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Kostas,
Any idea what that lens will be and when it'll be released? I'm
suddenly in the market for something after the untimely demise of my
SMC-F70-210 while on holidays in Newfoundland. Definitely not the
highlight of my trip.
I'm trying to figure out how to replace it. Do I go with the 50-200? I
was also toying with saving up for a Tokina or Sigma 70-200/2.8. I'm
also toying with finding a half decent 200mm and perhaps start a
transition to primes.
life was so easy when I didn't NEED a lens. 'Course trying to justify
spending $$$ on a lens after holidays won't be the easiest thing
either.
dk
On 8/19/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, John Francis wrote:
Glen, if you are not in a hurry, Pentax are planning to produce a new,
quality telephoto zoom.
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:40:53 -0600
From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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*ist DS2, AF540FGZ flash, shipping date for DA 12-24 F4:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html
Joe
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:40:50 -0500
From: Unca Mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Godfrey, on the link you posted, I am not sure the little blocks at
the bottom are very helpful. Perhaps it's because you are still
working on this, but I am confused that the images linked from the
little blocks are not the same as the thumbnail page -- should they
be the same? I would consider eliminating the little blocks and just
linking to your thumbnails page. The thumbnail page that you
specifically asked about is helpful and easy on the eye, and it
loaded quickly even on my dialup connection:
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/thumbs/index.html
More importantly, thanks for posting this -- I saw and really enjoyed
several here that I had not seen before. You're on my list of
photographers whose work makes me think when I'm out snapping.
*>UncaMikey
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:41:27 +0800
From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Kinda' reminds me of how I ended up with my *ist D.
I went into the camera store to put a deposit on the 31 Ltd. When I
was done I had a look at the D. Liked it so much I bought it. That was
an expensive week :-)
Congrats on the lens. You'll no doubt enjoy it.
Dave
On 8/22/05, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I went to B&H today looking for a case for the Optio WP. None of the 3rd
party cases fit properly - the WP is too long - so I went to the SLR
counter
to ask about a custom Pentax case. While I was there, I asked about the
black 77mm Ltd., which the website said was still out of stock. I then
decided, knowing Pentax' supply issues, that it was better to have a
silver
77mm than none at all. So I walked out with one.
I'll buy the black one if they ever get it in stock again, but I'm not
holding my breath. Sorry, Herb.
Amita
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:46:08 -0400
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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At 05:37 AM 8/21/2005, Frantisek wrote:
G> I really don't think there will be much "hand shaking" if you put
G> extremists of opposite polarity together. I really don't think the
G> "political spectrum" is a circle.
The circle, as a simplification but much better one than left-right
line is accepted in political science in academic circles. Once you
think about it, it makes sense. And if you don't think there will be
hand shaking with opposite polarity extremists, you really don't know
extremists in reality (which is probably a good thing for
you!).
Sorry, I've thought about it, but I still don't think a circle is an
acceptable model for what many refer to as the "political spectrum".
Instead of telling me that it's an accepted model by some academics, and
that if I think about it, it will make sense, why don't you simply explain
it to me? I say, if it can't be explained, then it doesn't make sense.
;-)
Better yet, let's forget politics altogether and talk about Pentax lenses,
cameras, and photography. :)
take care,
Glen
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:54:08 +0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Quoting Ryan Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Lenses before camera, sir! You've got one and I believe Miss Beard's got
one
too. And I'll have one in the next couple weeks fingers crossed.
Anyway, still hoping anyone out there might have some experience to share
regarding Aussie customs and mail order. Thanks..
Cheers,
Ryan
I haven't ordered overseas from Ebay, but with Adorama, it comes through
UPS.
They have a customs broker who calls you up when the package arrives in
Oz. You
provide them with a credit card to take care of the brokerage fees, which
includes the GST, and some UPS fee). Then they ship the box to you.
If it is a private sale (i.e. the ebay person doesn't sell 2nd hand goods
professionally), then it shouldn't attract GST. If it is a commerical
ebayer,
then I guess it should.
Derby
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:54:51 -0500
From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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95%/.95, 8 frame burst, B&W filter, under $800....Woo----Hoo! ;-)
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:41 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
*ist DS2, AF540FGZ flash, shipping date for DA 12-24 F4:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html
Joe
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:57:58 -0400
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
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At 08:53 AM 8/21/2005, Bob Shell wrote:
It's kind of sad that none of the companies do this sort of thing
anymore. These warehouse clearance sales were always a lot of fun.
I suspect it might have a lot to do with "just in time" supply chains.
take care,
Glen
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:14:35 -0400
From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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on Pentax USA site now
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_DS2/reqID--6919574/subsection--digital_slr
Christian
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95%/.95, 8 frame burst, B&W filter, under $800....Woo----Hoo! ;-)
Don
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:41 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
>
>
> *ist DS2, AF540FGZ flash, shipping date for DA 12-24 F4:
>
> http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html
>
> Joe
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:20:38 -0400
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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*istDS2 sounds like nothing but a minor upgrade, if that. It might even
be a downgrade based on the price. Is there anything new about it other
than the filters? Of course the 12-24 is old news. The only real news
here is the 540 flash. Is that guide number better than the Sigma
Super?
On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
*ist DS2, AF540FGZ flash, shipping date for DA 12-24 F4:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html
Joe
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:35:41 -0400
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bob (who is actually an entomologist by original training)
Fascinating. Mind if I ask an entomological question?
My SO and I moved to Pittsburgh 3 years ago. Every summer, beginning in
August, we've heard (but not seen) what we have taken to calling a
"clickety bug". It makes an click-click-click-click-click noise (from 5
to 25 clicks) and then pauses for a minute or more. Unlike crickets, for
example, these bugs don't seem to exist in great numbers, as we can
usually detect no more than 4-5 of them in the immediate area. Any
suggestions as to what it might be? Just curious - and we have been for
3 years ;-)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:23:08 -0700
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I'd go for the DA50-200 if you're using the digital bodies. It's
light, small, has just a little more range, and is very reasonably
priced.
Godfrey
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:27:00 US/Eastern
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Paw: Five Foot High by Five Foot Wide(plus long story)
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Hi Folks.
Just getting back from 2 weeks at the Collingwood horse show. Daughter
did so so but is
still in
the running for second, so far.
This also goes along with WW's thread a while back with Pro Courtesy.
The "Official"Photo guy for this show is from Quebec(not that that
matters) and he and i
get along
very well. This time around he even offered tips to help with my D2H
problems.They also
have a
fellow from the US and although i get no offers of help,does not bother me
if i shoot a
few
pic's.(both still film at these big shows)
Any way, when i went back up for the second week(i was only there for
Fri--Sundays) there
was the
newish on site company there as well. Humm i say.
This is the firm that accosted me at the last show in Barrie,wanting to
know who i was, am
i a
pro,you must be with a camera like that.Are you here selling pictures, get
off my show
site,etc etc..
Anyway ;long story short, i diffused the situation.
This brings us to my Paw.
The Quebec photographer was hired by Kubota the sponser to shoot the
$60,00 Grand Prix. I
heard
there was a furrer over who was the official person as the newish company
kept getting in
my buddies
face. However i was asked by Horse Sport magazine, as they had no
representation at the
show, to get
pictures of the winner,deadline tonight.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=frankie_Chesler.jpg
Not to evoke extra hard feelings, i kind of hide in the crowd, shot my
istD with SMC A
70-210 F4
instead of the Big Bertha and now present you with a shot of what 'real
horse jumping' is
like.
Not a great shot, but ok for a stealth. Still prefer the Nikons for this
work, but ya
gotta do what
ya gotta do eh.:-)
Any way comments appreciated.
Dave
BTW as a side bar. The non official guy actually wandered into the ring
where the official
guy was
shooting to take pictures, even though he had several shooters in the
stands outside.
Official guy said a lot of French words i dont understand.LOL
Anyway the other fellow left after a few shots
Oh and he also had the nerve to ask me on Saturday,my big daughter day,
and after behing
in my face
the entire Saturday i was at the Barrie show, if i would work for him. One
of his shooters
was sick.
I said thanks but no thanks, i will be tied up all day helping daughter
and others from
the farm.
What goes around comes around.
Dave Again and sorry for the ramble
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:32:24 -0700
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Thanks for the comment (and the compliment!), UncaMikey.
The little block selector is supposed to show the progress of the
Picture A Week through the year, and provide a quick way to get to
the latest one or pick one at random. The reason I did the thumbnail
page is that I often want to get to a particular image, for one
reason or another, and the block selector isn't good at that ... I
end up going back and forth through the series a lot.
The thumbnails page images point to exactly the same pages for each
image as the block display does. The only difference is that the
thumbnails are constrained to be a center-square crop of the image in
order to keep the page regular in appearance. If they're not working
that way, then there's something wrong, but they seem to be working
in my testing of the pages.
Godfrey
On Aug 21, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Unca Mikey wrote:
Godfrey, on the link you posted, I am not sure the little blocks at
the bottom are very helpful. Perhaps it's because you are still
working on this, but I am confused that the images linked from the
little blocks are not the same as the thumbnail page -- should they
be the same? I would consider eliminating the little blocks and
just linking to your thumbnails page. The thumbnail page that you
specifically asked about is helpful and easy on the eye, and it
loaded quickly even on my dialup connection:
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/thumbs/index.html
More importantly, thanks for posting this -- I saw and really
enjoyed several here that I had not seen before. You're on my list
of photographers whose work makes me think when I'm out snapping.
*>UncaMikey
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:57:56 +1000
From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Thanks Derby, much appreciated. Would you happen to remember how much the
tax and fees added up to as a percentage of the purchase price?
Regards,
Ryan
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Aus import matters
I haven't ordered overseas from Ebay, but with Adorama, it comes through
UPS.
They have a customs broker who calls you up when the package arrives in
Oz. You
provide them with a credit card to take care of the brokerage fees, which
includes the GST, and some UPS fee). Then they ship the box to you.
If it is a private sale (i.e. the ebay person doesn't sell 2nd hand goods
professionally), then it shouldn't attract GST. If it is a commerical
ebayer,
then I guess it should.
Derby
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:27:03 +0930
From: "Peter Loveday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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*istDS2 sounds like nothing but a minor upgrade, if that. It might even
be
a downgrade based on the price. Is there anything new about it other than
the filters?
Not a lot new really. Which makes this the fourth in a series of
confusingly similar DSLRs. Well done, Pentax :(
Of course the 12-24 is old news. The only real news here is the 540
flash.
Is that guide number better than the Sigma Super?
The sigma is GN 50m @ 100ASA, 105mm zoom reflector setting. The Pentax
one
is GN 54m @ 100ASA, doesn't say what zoom thats at.
So yep, its a bit better. Probably cost a bit more too.
Love, Light and Peace,
- Peter Loveday
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:00:01 -0500
From: Unca Mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hhmmmm. Godfrey, when I load
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/, I don't get much detail
in the small gray blocks. In fact, no detail, just small gray
blocks, LOL. Nothing in the blocks allows me to differentiate one
image from another. After I have viewed an image, the border is red,
which confuses your statement that the "red block is always the
latest week posted." (No, my browser's normal color for viewed links
is not red.) Now that I have viewed many images, there are many
blocks that have red borders.
This is probably getting too detailed and arcane for most PDML
readers, but: older images have a solid gray block. If I have
viewed the image, it has a red border; if not, it has a black border.
The block (and border) for the current week (33) is solid red. The
blocks for weeks not yet done are a lighter gray, with a visible grid
in the small block; all these future blocks have a red border.
I was able to match up the images, however, so yes, now I can see
they are the same set of images. No problem there.
I'm using Firefox on an iMac G5, OS 10.4.1, if that makes any
difference. I can do a screen shot and send it to you if it would
help.
Is anyone still awake? Larf!
*>UncaMikey
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:00:35 -0400
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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At 04:52 PM 8/21/2005, Kevin Waterson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But I see a difference between the U.S. having heavy involvement and
> light
> involvement and a president starting it or not.
I wonder if the families of those killed see the difference.
I wonder if this thread will ever get back to protecting the rights of
photographers to use their Pentax cameras for whatever peaceful
law-abiding
purpose they see fit? ;-)
take care,
Glen
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:03:35 -0700
From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Peter Loveday <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
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Kind of reminds me of the Canon style with releasing 25 different
Rebel bodies over a 2-4 year period <grin>. Each one is barely an upgrade
of
the previous one. What is positive about the technique is that it
allows for more press and publicity because of new models. It also
shows the company is alive. While they work on something substantial,
they can produce these minor upgrades to keep interest in the product
line.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Sunday, August 21, 2005, 6:57:03 PM, you wrote:
*istDS2 sounds like nothing but a minor upgrade, if that. It might even
be
a downgrade based on the price. Is there anything new about it other
than
the filters?
PL> Not a lot new really. Which makes this the fourth in a series of
PL> confusingly similar DSLRs. Well done, Pentax :(
Of course the 12-24 is old news. The only real news here is the 540
flash.
Is that guide number better than the Sigma Super?
PL> The sigma is GN 50m @ 100ASA, 105mm zoom reflector setting. The
Pentax one
PL> is GN 54m @ 100ASA, doesn't say what zoom thats at.
PL> So yep, its a bit better. Probably cost a bit more too.
PL> Love, Light and Peace,
PL> - Peter Loveday
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:14:50 -0400
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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At 08:11 PM 8/21/2005, Kenneth Waller wrote:
I drape my left arm over the barrel of my 600 to load it
and dampen any potential vibration...
Wouldn't a sandbag or a bag of lead shot be better? It wouldn't exhibit
any
minor muscle tremors, and it wouldn't have blood pulsing through it.
take care,
Glen
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:29:35 -0400
From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Glen <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
Subject: Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was:
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Better yet, let's forget politics altogether and talk about Pentax
lenses,
cameras, and photography. :)
Yay !!!
Fred
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:51:43 -0700
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: PAW thumbnail page
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The thumbnail page appears as you've described it on my system.
Shel
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
The thumbnails page images point to exactly the same pages for each
image as the block display does. The only difference is that the
thumbnails are constrained to be a center-square crop of the image in
order to keep the page regular in appearance. If they're not working
that way, then there's something wrong, but they seem to be working
in my testing of the pages.
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:53:57 -0400
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Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 07:54:51PM -0500, Don Sanderson wrote:
95%/.95, 8 frame burst, B&W filter, under $800....Woo----Hoo! ;-)
Don
Surely that's just the same as the original DS?
Personally I'm more interested in the other announcements - the
12-24 will ship in October, and there'll be a new flash with the
power of the 500, bit with all the new high-speed flash abilities.
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:58:11 -0500
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On Aug 21, 2005, at 19:40, Joseph Tainter wrote:
*ist DS2, AF540FGZ flash, shipping date for DA 12-24 F4:
Looks like the only difference in the DS2 from the DS is the larger
screen. STILL has the annoying "continuous autofocus only in 'action
mode'" restriction.
Hmm. And it appears to be one ounce lighter. WTF?
-Charles
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:06:35 -0700
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Ummm ... doesn't the current DS have a 95/95 viewfinder? Doesn't it also
offer an 8 frame burst?
I suppose other differences between the DS and the DS2 will show up
considering these are early, and probably PR generated, comments.
The B&W filter may be nice, but I suspect it's only a desaturated version
of a regular file rather than something special.
Still, contrary to Paul's position, I like the idea that Pentax has come
out with another model that offers even slightly different features. When
you stop to consider how many "subtle" variations there are on base
cameras, Pentax's choice to make a few changes and release a camera now
makes more sense than not releasing anything until a major upgrade is
ready. Like Bruce, I also feel it shows the company is a live and
kicking,
and, iirc, the opening price for this puppy is less than the opening price
was for the DS.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Don Sanderson
95%/.95, 8 frame burst, B&W filter, under $800....Woo----Hoo! ;-)
Don
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