Re: Being real-*istic

2003-03-02 Thread Peter Jansen
Pål wrote: "After all, everything points towards a > flexible production line for the *ist derivatives so > "anything" is probably possible." That is probably their strategy. Pentax needs a safety net since the competition is fierce and ever changing. If no one buys the *ist D, then they may have

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-03-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Rick wrote: > Fortunately, that is *not* my view on this matter. > How is the Pentax's ZX series compete realistically > with the Canon's stuff? And yet, the ZX series are > great sellers and compete very well with the Canons as > well as the Nikons in the consumer line of stuff. That is beacu

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-03-02 Thread Rick Diaz
--- Pål_Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom wrote: > > "But > realistically, Pentax's *ist is simply not realistic > enough to compete with > Canon or idealistic enough to capture one's > imagination." > Tom, Fortunately, that is *not* my view on this matter. How is the Pentax's ZX series

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-03-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Tom wrote: "But realistically, Pentax's *ist is simply not realistic enough to compete with Canon or idealistic enough to capture one's imagination." REPLY Sadly, thats my view too. I just hope the *ist D is compromised in order to be a entry level DSLR and not suggestive for Pentax design dire

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-03-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: "Case in point: early adopters of the Canon EOS D30 have lost more cash than the entire cost of the EOS 10D. " REPLY: This is the fate of any DSLR at this point. Probably also the *istd D. The *ist D3 will cost the same as the value loss of the *ist D. Pål

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-03-01 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
More bokeh talk: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004eIv BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canon lenses generally have very good _bokeh_, however. HAR! maybe - but "good bokeh" (out of focus areas) isn't supposed to be present in the entire frame ;^) HAR! indeed -

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
William Robb wrote: > I bow to your knowledge in this area. > Mike wrote - > > Canon lenses generally have very good _bokeh_, however. HAR! maybe - but "good bokeh" (out of focus areas) isn't supposed to be present in the entire frame ;^) drum ruckus / crash / sizzl

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mike Johnston" Subject: Re: Being real-*istic > Canon lenses generally have very good _bokeh_, however. I bow to your knowledge in this area. William Robb

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread Mike Johnston
> I disagree (respectfully). Canon changes their body line too fast for out of > date equipment to be worth anything in more than a couple of years. Add to > that their history of orphaning their customer base entirely, and their junk > optics (bokeh that makes Yassir Arafat look like a beauty quee

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom Davis" Subject: Being real-*istic > But where "jumping ship" hurts most is lenses. The most damning part of > "pre-PMA" is no new Limited, much less a body designed to the standards of > the existing Limiteds.

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: Being real-*istic > > I really think you've pulled the trigger a little too soon. But then > again, Canon ought to have excellent re-sale value... I disagree (respectfully). Canon changes their body line

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread Cotty
Regarding some trollish remarks >you have given no argument whatsoever that the Canon 10D will allow you >to make better pictures than the *ist D would allow you. What I can see >in what you have written is "Canon is the stronger company, so I go for >them". If everybody had always made up

Re: Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread Arnold Stark
Tom, you have given no argument whatsoever that the Canon 10D will allow you to make better pictures than the *ist D would allow you. What I can see in what you have written is "Canon is the stronger company, so I go for them". If everybody had always made up their decisions like that, we woul

Being real-*istic

2003-02-28 Thread Tom Davis
Hi all, Today I "pre-ordered" a Canon 10D for $1514.95 (with two-day delivery). The decision to go "all digital" for color dictated having to choose which company has the best long-term future in digital. Well, sorry to say, there's not much contest among the "traditional" photographic companies.