Re: Cotty's Specification (E-1)

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
> > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ist-Dcrash.jpg > They don't build 'em like that anymore. Mark Roberts wrote: > John Celio wrote: > > > >> The E-1 was built like a friggin' tank, people. I don't know about >> > other > >> brands (their tech reps never tried similar demonstrati

Re: Cotty's Specification (E-1)

2008-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> The E-1 was built like a friggin' tank, people. I don't know >> about other >> brands (their tech reps never tried similar demonstrations), but I >> had full >> confidence in the E-1's ability to survive just about anything. > > I forget whe

Re: Cotty's Specification (E-1)

2008-01-26 Thread Mark Roberts
John Celio wrote: >The E-1 was built like a friggin' tank, people. I don't know about other >brands (their tech reps never tried similar demonstrations), but I had full >confidence in the E-1's ability to survive just about anything. I forget where this came from, but it's a photo of an ist

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-26 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:40:50 +0100 schreef Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The same shutter was in the PZ-1p, IIRC... The specs do sound familiar :o) -- Ciao, Lucas > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Shouldn't be that much pricier, the Nikon F90x had a >> 4.5fps 1/8000 >> shut

Re: Cotty's Specification (E-1)

2008-01-25 Thread John Celio
> But it is not in the same class as the E-1 with respect to > basic quality. I have a story about the E-1. When it first came out, me and the other guys at Reed's were extensively trained on the camera by Olympus. Olympus was commited to selling the camera through real camera stores, not onli

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Rick Womer
The same shutter was in the PZ-1p, IIRC... --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shouldn't be that much pricier, the Nikon F90x had a > 4.5fps 1/8000 > shutter with 1/250 sync and retailed under $1k up > until 2002 or so. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdm

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Adam Maas
On 1/25/08, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Maas" > Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification > > > > >> > > > > The shutter should be an off the shelf item, > > OTS or not, it

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification >> > > The shutter should be an off the shelf item, OTS or not, it's still going to be a beefed up and consequently pricier component. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Disc

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification > Yes, D300 packaging and shutter performance would take it to the next > level. But since the picture is the thing, the K20D will serve quite well > for now. Since three-year cyc

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Adam Maas
On 1/25/08, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification > > > > Yes, D300 packaging and shutter performance would take it to the next > > level. But si

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: >On 1/25/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the 24 x 36 sensor in the Canon checking in at 138 pixels per >> millimeter (linear). The 14 megapixel Pentax sensor (23.4 x >>15.6) comes in at about 198 pixels per millimeter! >> >> Now granted, the 1Ds-III does have the

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > On 1/25/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This raises an interesting issue. When Michael Reichmann tested the >> Canon 1Ds-III, he said he suspected that its sensor was out-resolving >> its lenses. In other words, the lenses didn't have

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sorry, my opinion differs. The E-1 is *substantially* better built than the K10D, both with respect to materials and the quality of the components. The shutter is as close to noiseless as any SLR shutter I've ever used and extremely smooth in operation. The viewfinder is on par for brightn

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Adam Maas
On 1/25/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > >Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses > >than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* > >lenses, and even many of the "regular" series lenses are > >pro-quality performers. >

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses >than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* >lenses, and even many of the "regular" series lenses are >pro-quality performers. This raises an interesting issue. When Michael Reichmann test

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, D300 packaging and shutter performance would take it to the next level. But since the picture is the thing, the K20D will serve quite well for now. Since three-year cycles seem to be about max for DSLR technology these days, I don't know if I need better build than what I'm getting herre.

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Adam Maas
Gotta say I agree in most particulars. I'd love the K20D's imaging system stuffed into a D300-equivalent body (Build, UI, performance. D300 as the standard, not the Oly bodies which IMHO aren't any better than the K10D). The only really 'Pro' small-format SLR Pentax ever made was the LX. But the cu

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Adam Maas
The E-1 introduced Splashproof sealing. I do concur otherwise. -Adam On 1/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D? it seems the > K20D has already surpassed tha by a wide margin. I've held an E-1. Build > quality is jus

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread pnstenquist
I agree that there's little need for what people call" full frame." If it's possible to get good noise characteristics with 14 megapixels on the DX sensor, there's really no point to go larger in a moderatly sized and priced DSLR. In any case, the Pentax present and future lens lineup says it a

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread pnstenquist
At least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D? it seems the K20D has already surpassed tha by a wide margin. I've held an E-1. Build quality is just about on a par with K10D. Maybe a bit more in materials here and there. Is it even sealed? Paul -- Original message --

Re: Cotty's Specification

2008-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This all points out the most serious lack in Pentax DSLR equipment: a pro-class body. I personally believe that Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the "regular" series lenses are