Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-15 Thread Scott Nelson
Actually, there are quite a few systems using LN cooled sensors in use in industrial and gov't applications. I had the chance to look at some of thse a few months ago. Quite impressive results... Packaging was a lot smaller than I had anticipated. Indeed liquid Nitrogen cooled

RE: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-15 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
The scientific ccd cameras I have seen have used a thermoelectric cooler (peltier) with circulating water (maybe with glycol). This method is a lot easier to implement than the liquid nitrogen approach :-) Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-15 Thread Herb Chong
check the power consumption. it's a little high. Herb - Original Message - From: Otis Wright rusty.@att.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:14 AM Subject: Re: DSLR/PC plateau? Actually, there are quite a few systems using LN cooled sensors in use

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Otis Wright Subject: Re: DSLR/PC plateau? Scott Nelson wrote: You can take care of thermal noise (to a point) by cooling the sensor with something like liquid nitrogen - not that this is very practical unless you are using a telescope. At a given

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread bucky
Quoting Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the above analysis is overly reliant on the idea of the job as equivalency to 35mm (or Med Format) traditional film photography - equivalency in a variety of ways including not only resolution and such things. [predictions snipped] You may

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
Interesting question: My DSLR becomes obsolete. Therefore it's not worth much. Do I bother to sell it or not? Will there be any market for these obsolete DSLR's? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Interesting question: My DSLR becomes obsolete. Therefore it's not worth much. Do I bother to sell it or not? Will there be any market for these obsolete DSLR's? Please define obsolete, in this context. There will always be a market for used camera

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Jan 2004 at 10:01, Chaso DeChaso wrote: Basically, whenever you think these technological changes are levelling off, usually you just aren't being creative or imaginative enough. However, most of the companies out there will take up the slack and do the creative thinking for you.

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Hi, some quick thoughts late in the night follow... One quick example would be when something happens (relatively soon) such as sensors becoming not only way higher in resolution but also much more light-sensitive than film. Among other things, this Well, light sensitivity would be nice,

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Pieter Nagel
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 10:01:21AM -0800, Chaso DeChaso wrote: I think the above analysis is overly reliant on the idea of the job as equivalency to 35mm (or Med Format) traditional film photography - equivalency in a variety of ways including not only resolution and such things. One

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Herb Chong
PM Subject: Re: DSLR/PC plateau? One quick example would be when something happens (relatively soon) such as sensors becoming not only way higher in resolution but also much more light-sensitive than film. Among other things, this would allow both digital-only (non optical) zoom and total

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Scott Nelson
and there is a fixed amount of thermal noise that can't be gotten around. Herb - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Re: DSLR/PC plateau? One quick example would be when something

Re: DSLR/PC plateau?

2004-01-14 Thread Otis Wright
and there is a fixed amount of thermal noise that can't be gotten around. Herb - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Re: DSLR/PC plateau? One quick example would be when something happens (relatively