Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-04-01 Thread mike wilson
Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > > > http://www.pentaxmedical.com/brochures/PENTAX_2009iPLATFORM.pdf > > > > Got to see one in action today ... well, not exactly "see" it ... more like > > it saw me. :-( > > GESO? Groan Every So Often? -- PD

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-31 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > http://www.pentaxmedical.com/brochures/PENTAX_2009iPLATFORM.pdf > > Got to see one in action today ... well, not exactly "see" it ... more like > it saw me. :-( GESO? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-31 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-03-31 17:38, John Sessoms wrote: From: Doug Franklin On 2010-03-30 17:04, Bruce Dayton wrote: > We've upped our standards, now up yours! One of my favorite quotations of all time. http://www.pentaxmedical.com/brochures/PENTAX_2009iPLATFORM.pdf Got to see one in action today ... wel

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, I knew you were starving for a reason. Always good to be checked... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Doug Franklin >> >> On 2010-03-30 17:04, Bruce Dayton wrote: >>> >>> > We've upped our standards, now up yours! >> >> One of my favorite quotatio

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2010-03-30 17:04, Bruce Dayton wrote: > We've upped our standards, now up yours! One of my favorite quotations of all time. http://www.pentaxmedical.com/brochures/PENTAX_2009iPLATFORM.pdf Got to see one in action today ... well, not exactly "see" it ... more like it

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-03-30 17:04, Bruce Dayton wrote: We've upped our standards, now up yours! One of my favorite quotations of all time. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/30/2010 5:00 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Miserere wrote: ...Also illustrating the "mums with cams" phenomenon. That was a lot of my business loss right there. They would even come over to me and ask how the camera worked. Dave You should

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Doug Brewer
Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: New motto: Our Best Is None Too Good! Or, "When you can't afford quality, we're there for you!" "Miracle Photography. If it's a good photo, it's a miracle!" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Larry Colen
On 3/30/2010 3:03 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Note the TV judge episode recently referenced where the pro photographer didn't even know the aperture of her lens. In most cases, her gear and knowledge were up to the task of what she was trying

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" > Subject: Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers > > >> On 3/30/2010 2:00 PM,

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers On 3/30/2010 2:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: New motto: Our Best Is None Too Good! Or, "

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Note the TV judge episode recently referenced > where the pro photographer didn't even know the aperture of her lens. In > most cases, her gear and knowledge were up to the task of what she was > trying to do. I saw that one. What a hoot. Judg

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Miserere wrote: > ...Also illustrating the "mums with cams" phenomenon. That was a lot of my business loss right there. They would even come over to me and ask how the camera worked. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://b

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Jack Davis
"If you don't like our work, you just don't understand art." --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Tom C wrote: > From: Tom C > Subject: Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:34 PM > "At (f

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Tom C
"At (fill in the blank) quality is job one. We didn't think you'd notice so we decided to tell you." On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > How about: > > We've upped our standards, now up yours! > > > -- > Bruce > > > Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:00:40 PM, you wrote: > > MR> Bruce

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
How about: We've upped our standards, now up yours! -- Bruce Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:00:40 PM, you wrote: MR> Bruce Dayton wrote: >>New motto: >> >>Our Best Is None Too Good! MR> Or, "When you can't afford quality, we're there for you!" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.n

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Larry Colen
On 3/30/2010 2:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: New motto: Our Best Is None Too Good! Or, "When you can't afford quality, we're there for you!" The best quality you can afford. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.ne

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: >New motto: > >Our Best Is None Too Good! Or, "When you can't afford quality, we're there for you!" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow t

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
New motto: Our Best Is None Too Good! -- Bruce Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 1:06:20 PM, you wrote: TC> Your high standard of mediocrity appalls me. ;-) >> >> Nope, it's just that mediocre is usually good enough. >> >> >>> >>> >>>   --M. >>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Tom C
Your high standard of mediocrity appalls me. ;-) > > Nope, it's just that mediocre is usually good enough. > > >> >> >>   --M. >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and f

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread 272yb
early kodak/nikon DCS 620 cameras. Joe - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:28:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers I think in the pre internet days, the

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Larry Colen
On 3/30/2010 9:12 AM, Miserere wrote: ...Also illustrating the "mums with cams" phenomenon. I can't imagine trying to make it as a pro photographer nowadays, especially in some segments where you're being undercut by Uncle Fred and the paying customers can't tell the difference between the work

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
They didn't touch on the wedding and portraiture industries but they are feeling pretty much the same thing. Technology has lowered the bar for more people to get in with less knowledge. That works ok, until there is a situation that the technology doesn't handle and then you see catastrophic fai

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/30/2010 11:12 AM, Miserere wrote: ...Also illustrating the "mums with cams" phenomenon. I can't imagine trying to make it as a pro photographer nowadays, especially in some segments where you're being undercut by Uncle Fred and the paying customers can't tell the difference between the work

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Miserere
...Also illustrating the "mums with cams" phenomenon. I can't imagine trying to make it as a pro photographer nowadays, especially in some segments where you're being undercut by Uncle Fred and the paying customers can't tell the difference between the work of a true pro and that of Uncle Fred. I

Re: Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
I think in the pre internet days, the pros were just that. Move to were the action, story is and go for it. Now with images available almost instantly, and a host of bloggers, that world is pretty much dead. Dave On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Here's a NY Times article

Declining Pro Photography Careers

2010-03-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here's a NY Times article describing what we all know or felt. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/business/media/30photogs.html?th&emc=th My take is that the romantic vision of the Pro Photographer jetting around the world to capture magazine images is Dead-on-Arrival. I think Paul S.'s example i