Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bob, I would add to your elaborate test schema the control of doing the same recording onto B&W film, and comparing the light falloff differences. EV 0.6+/- is a mighty fine distinction. But we can do better than that with the digital sensor as we can look at the 12bit quantized data... ;

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Blakely
Illumination only. This should be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. Most other characteristics are independent of whether the lens is "for digital" or "for film", are independent of flatness of field, etc., and are simply a function of tradeoffs in lens design or care in manufactu

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 6, 2005, at 3:32 AM, mike wilson wrote: A D-FA50 macro lens is designed to be best at flat-field imaging, stopped down to f/8-f/32, in the near-focusing range. An A50/1.4 is designed for general pictorial use at wide apertures, and will not perform at its best at copystand distance

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-06 Thread Fred
>> It was either in the general Pentax lenses and accessories booklet or >> the manual of the 1.7x AF T/C that I read that the 50/1.7 is >> recommended for macro work with extension tubes; the 1.4 was >> recommended against. > IIRC, that was deduced to be due to the flatness (or lack of) of the

Re: Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-06 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/09/06 Tue AM 08:57:10 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Film Lenses on Digital > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > A D-FA50 macro lens is designed to be

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A D-FA50 macro lens is designed to be best at flat-field imaging, stopped down to f/8-f/32, in the near-focusing range. An A50/1.4 is designed for general pictorial use at wide apertures, and will not perform at its best at copystand distances. It

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
I did not fully see the quality of Pentax primes until I tried them on my *ist D. For some reason they seem sharper on the APS-C sensor than they ever did on film. Joe

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
But what are you trying to compare, Bob? Evenness of illumination, resolution, contrast ... what? A gray card will only show you evenness of illumination. At f/2.8, it's a toss up between the two 50mm lenses to predict which will do better, although at copystand distances I'd put my bets on

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Blakely
What I would be interested in, then, is D-FA50 Macro wide open and the A50/1.4 at the lowest common stop, or the DA40 and the SMC 40 at the lowest common stop. Regards, Bob... By all means, marr

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There are no "digital" prime lenses between 20 and 35mm. Pentax lenses designed for digital SLRs, to date, include: DA14 DA16-45 DA18-55 DA40 DA50-200 D-FA50 Macro D-FA100 Macro If I get a chance to set up my copystand and lighting, I'll make a gray card exposure with the A24/2.8 or FA35/2,

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Blakely
Yes. Also, if one of you digital dudes would shoot a gray card frame edge to frame edge with one of your digital primes (say between 20 and 35 mm or so) and one of your film primes of *equal* focal length, I would be interested in comparing light fall off at the corners. Tripod mount camera on

Re: Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 5, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Fred wrote: I am curious to ask, for those who have had a lot of experience using your favorite ol' 35mm film lenses on APS digital bodies (D & DS), which specific lenses seem to be "just as good" (or perhaps "even better") in digital use? And, conversely, which

Film Lenses on Digital

2005-09-05 Thread Fred
Hi all. I am curious to ask, for those who have had a lot of experience using your favorite ol' 35mm film lenses on APS digital bodies (D & DS), which specific lenses seem to be "just as good" (or perhaps "even better") in digital use? And, conversely, which lenses seem to be "not as good" in dig