Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-24 Thread William Robb
On 22/09/2011 1:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: So... what to do? Anything? Maybe it's me... Or is this just the way it goes??? Any thoughts are appreciated... I didn't read this thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but get some translucent fabric and cover that window.

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-24 Thread Paul Sorenson
One could try reducing the overall exposure to kill the hot spots a little, then add some fill to bring back some of the detail in the shadows...much the same as doing it in camera. Might work if the hot spots aren't too hot. For minor hot spots and reflections, this technique often works

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-24 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:51 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't read this thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but get some translucent fabric and cover that window. Get enough fabric and make yourself some big, stand up reflectors as well. I made a

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-24 Thread William Robb
On 24/09/2011 1:57 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: You have a beautiful, natural light source there, take advantage of it. Oh, I plan to! I think there's a bit of a learning curve, though the light in there changes throughout the day, and, I suspect, with the seasons... Covering the

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christine Nielsen For me the jury's out on the various Google properties. I've distrusted Picasa in the past as the images looked suspiciously munched to me. I know that Google+ is just reusing the Picasa facilities and photogs seem happy with that, so maybe Picasa is ok now. ?I'm not sure

GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
Our old barn got a renovation, and lucky me (!), I got a studio space out of the deal. It's only very recently been finished, and I'm just starting to get a little time to play out there. The other day, i asked my daughter to sit for some portraits -- I had to capture that summer tan before it

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/22/2011 12:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Our old barn got a renovation, and lucky me (!), I got a studio space out of the deal. It's only very recently been finished, and I'm just starting to get a little time to play out there. The other day, i asked my daughter to sit for some

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine, Nice photos and a charming daughter. I use Picassa and Photo.net Picassa for more casual stuff as colors will wander. I take my best stuff to Photo.net as a more reliable display. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Our old

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 9/22/2011 12:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Our old barn got a renovation, and lucky me (!), I got a studio space out of the deal.  It's only very recently been finished, and I'm just starting to get a little time to

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, Nice photos and a charming daughter. I use Picassa and Photo.net Picassa for more casual stuff as colors will wander. I take my best stuff to Photo.net as a more reliable display. Regards,  Bob S. Thanks,

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Tim Bray
That last shot is amazing, wonderful. As for online presentation, yeah, there are a lot of processes that are going to abuse your precious bits. This is one reason I self-host everything I care about at tbray.org; the large versions of my pix are what comes out of Lightroom. Having said that,

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread steve harley
on 2011-09-22 13:05 Christine Nielsen wrote I know that different monitors might render images differently, but even on the same, calibrated monitor that i use for editing, it seems that different browsers (I have firefox, safari chrome, chrome being the worst offender) different websites

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine Nielsen wrote: I'm often frustrated when I see how my photos are rendered online. My monitor is calibrated, and in the editing process, everything seems to go just fine. I make sure I export in srgb. Once my photos are loaded onto different websites (blogger, picasa, flickr,

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-22 4:02 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: One thing about them that I see on a lot of portraits is that the highlights on the skin seem a bit overexposed to me, so that detail is lost. I don't know whether this is a

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Our old barn got a renovation, and lucky me (!), I got a studio space out of the deal.  It's only very recently been finished, and I'm just starting to get a little time to play out there.  The other day, i asked my

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-22 3:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Our old barn got a renovation, and lucky me (!), I got a studio space out of the deal. It's only very recently been finished, and I'm just starting to get a little time to play out there. The other day, i asked my daughter to sit for some portraits

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: There's a big can of worms you're opening here, That's what I was afraid of... oy. So, before anything else... Can you point me at an example of one of your images (the same file) looking different on several

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
What Frank Said. Love the jumping shot. The others could benefit from a little less exposure and a reflector at camera right to provide some fill. The ratio between the window lit portion of the face and the shade portion is a bit extreme. That being said, they're all very nice. Paul On Sep

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
For me the jury's out on the various Google properties. I've distrusted Picasa in the past as the images looked suspiciously munched to me. I know that Google+ is just reusing the Picasa facilities and photogs seem happy with that, so maybe Picasa is ok now.  I'm not sure what Blogger does

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: you can do controlled tests of your browsers against several online images to isolate whether it is the browser or Flickr, etc. — search for something like browser color management test for many examples; i don't claim to

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you convert the shots to SRGB color space before web posting they should look about the same on every site. If you're using PhotoShop, just do a save for web. Paul On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Stan Halpin
My quick very non-judgmental reactions (i.e., based on feel, not on analysis using my own or others' criteria for what makes a good portrait): a. Good model. You are lucky to have her as your model, she is lucky to have you as her photographer. b. The left side of the three portraits all seem

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks Paul, Frank, Tim everyone else who had a look. The jump shot is her favorite, too. :) On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: What Frank Said. Love the jumping shot. The others could benefit from a little less exposure and a reflector at camera

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: My quick very non-judgmental reactions (i.e., based on feel, not on analysis using my own or others' criteria for what makes a good portrait): a. Good model. You are lucky to have her as your model, she is lucky

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-22 8:46 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: My quick very non-judgmental reactions (i.e., based on feel, not on analysis using my own or others' criteria for what makes a good portrait): a. Good model. You are lucky to have her as your model, she is lucky to have you as her photographer. b. The

Re: GESO a question about the web color mgt...

2011-09-22 Thread Stan Halpin
I'll concede the point to someone who knows far more than I do about the topic. As you and others have pointed out, the overall range of EVs is too great across the scene. Best to fix that upfront with different lighting balance. My point was that, for these photos already shot, a rescue might