Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 17, 2005, at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine photographer with a unique vision and style. Someone not easy to dismiss and someone who will be long remembered by many people. There was nothing pompous in Galen. He

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 17, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Someone asked him about his working relationship with Galen Rowell and it just stopped him in his tracks. I thought he was going to break down and cry then and there. He didn't quite but he came close enough that the person who asked the

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:11 PM, E.R.N. Reed wrote: During the period when I used to read Outdoor Photographer (several years ago) I noticed that Dewitt Jones brought up his shooting for National Geographic in every single column at least once. Since I was also in the habit of reading National

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-19 Thread Jack Davis
Bob, It's his nebulous theme of claiming a somewhat heroic ability in succeeding in getting the definitive shot. I skipped his OP articles for some period of time when, maybe, I should have given his writing the benefit of an adjustment in my narrow attitude. Jack --- Bob Shell [EMAIL

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Jack Davis wrote: It's his nebulous theme of claiming a somewhat heroic ability in succeeding in getting the definitive shot. He certainly was fearless in getting to places to take those shots. I think he was helped in his mountain climbing by being a

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-18 Thread David Mann
On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: Better read his book Mountan light. Incidentally, his OP columns are published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure Photography and Galen Rowell's Inner Game of Outdoor Photography. All mandatory reading if you're

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Jack Davis wrote: I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or resentment. Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Tom C wrote: Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-18 Thread Jack Davis
Apparently, you can't. Jack --- E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or resentment. Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Tom C wrote:

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting past the prose was always my problem. I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first language... Pål

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: I like his writing even better than his photography. Considering how much I like his photography that says a lot! In my opinion he was the best writer on outdoor photography ever and his death was a great tragic loss for outdoor photographers

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself as much of a writer, more as a visual artist whose subject was the grandeur of mountains. Maybe. But I stll think he was the greatest writer on nature

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 17, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: Maybe. But I stll think he was the greatest writer on nature photgraphy out there. He was able to put into words and solve the problems outdoor photographer struggle with. I would say his writing is the only writing on photography that

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
You see the futility of it Bill? Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting past the prose was always my problem. I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first language... Pål

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
Did he make you think, like a piece of Kodachrome? Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself as much of a writer, more as a visual artist whose

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jostein
Hey Jack, His English is better than your Norwegian. Jostein - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Did he make you think, like

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jostein
(WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Did he make you think, like a piece of Kodachrome? Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself as much

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2005 6:21:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself as much of a writer, more as a visual artist whose subject was the grandeur of mountains. He really got into photography and later

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Years ago I visited his studio in the Bay area was absolutely blown away by his images. Seeing them in in magazine just didn't do them justice. I felt I could step into them when I saw them in person. A Rowell gallery is still

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:47:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read Rowell all the time back in the day when I got photo mags. ann sad === Uh, ann, a couple of years ago. I am sure someone else can pinpoint the date. Marnie aka Doe

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Did he make you think, like a piece of Kodachrome? Jack --- Pål Jensen

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sh*t - Galen Rowell died? If someone posted this as a title before today it never hit my mail box - He died in a plane crash the summer of 2002. I still remember coming home from a mountain trip and reading on photo.net

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine photographer with a unique vision and style. Someone not easy to dismiss and someone who will be long remembered by many people. I don't understand why anyone would find

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he was a better writer than he thought he was. I've read almost everything he wrote and don't really have much of a problem with it from an Editor's perspective. I always wanted him to write some stuff for me, but his contract with Outdoor

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
Aug. 11, '02. (Born in 1940) Killed, along with his wife, Barbara and two other passengers (I believe) in a plane crash that happened on landing approach to the Bishop, CA airport. In this case, his wife was not piloting the plane which was returning from an Alaskan shoot. Jack --- [EMAIL

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/17/2005 9:24:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate places in the magazine that they'd done it (and why). They still got complaints about it. I guess OP is kinda like Playboy - people buy it

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
Ignoring all the reasons having been cited will not make them go away. Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine photographer with a unique vision and style.

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
I, also, enjoy George Lepp, but never miss bi-monthly, Dewitt (Basic) Jones. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/17/2005 9:24:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate places in the magazine

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate places in the magazine that they'd done it (and why). They still got complaints about it. I guess OP is kinda like Playboy - people buy it to look at the pictures, not read the

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Tom C
PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:46:59 -0600 - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) I really

RE: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Bob W
[...] Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate places in the magazine that they'd done it (and why). They still got complaints about it. I guess OP is kinda like Playboy - people buy it to look at the pictures, not read the print ;-) are you sure? I thought

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Tom C
I don't understand why anyone would find him pompous, let alone a twit. I admit to never having met the guy, but he certainly didn't cloud his photography with philosophical new age mumbo jumbo and mysticism as often seen when other, less talented (outdoor)photographers trying to explain

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Tom C
Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how to look at things and find the shot. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Date: Sat

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine photographer with a unique vision and style. Someone not easy to dismiss and someone who will be long remembered by many people. I don't understand why

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
and find the shot. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:39:06 -0800 (PST) I, also, enjoy George Lepp, but never miss bi-monthly

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Tom C wrote: Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how to look at things and find the shot. Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones. Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are mentions of him in NG's index.

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Glen
At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Tom C wrote: Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how to look at things and find the shot. Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones. Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Being a photographer, his photographic work is his legacy, not his writing... Tom C. Agreed. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) I actually started looking foward to each issue of OP

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones. Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are mentions of him in NG's index. Dewitt Jones was the one who gave Rowell his first National Geographic

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll have to go to the library and find some old OP issues then. Better read his book Mountan light. Incidentally, his OP columns are published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure Photography and Galen

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or resentment. Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Tom C wrote: Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how to look at things and find the shot.

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally, his OP columns are published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure Photography and Galen Rowell's Inner Game of Outdoor Photography. All mandatory reading if you're interested in this type of photography. Inner Game of

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inner Game of Outdoor Photography is effing brilliant. Haven't read the other one. Yet. Then you would certainly find vision equally brilliant as it is exactly in the same vein... PÅL

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:47:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read Rowell all the time back in the day when I got photo mags. ann sad === Uh, ann, a couple of years ago. I am sure someone else can pinpoint the date. Marnie

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks Jack - The date tells me why I missed this news I wasn't on list and I was driving 500 miles a day - an unusual thing for me... and the news on the car radio was minimal. I also missed how he got in to a discussion here this week :) ann Jack Davis wrote: Aug. 11, '02. (Born in

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) Getting past the prose was always my problem. I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first language... I don't think it was his either. :-) William

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-16 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above it all. Maybe I was just jealous. I like his writing even better than his photography. Considering how

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Years ago I visited his studio in the Bay area was absolutely blown away by his images. Seeing them in in magazine just didn't do them justice. I felt I could step into them when I saw them in person. A Rowell gallery is still in operation in Bishop,

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-16 Thread Jack Davis
- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

2005-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas) I really liked his written work, to. Not necessarily the prose but the ideas. Getting past the prose was always my problem. William Robb