RE: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-07 Thread Desjardins, Steve
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Interesting K7 review On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 06:57:50PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: The irony there being the one thing MS gets consistently right is Office, particularly Excel. Oh, they get a lot more than Office right. Visual Studio is hands down the best

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-07 Thread eckinator
LOL... [quote from memory] To all you iPhone owners, don't act like you invented it, you only bought the bloody thing! Cheers Ecke 2009/9/7 Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu: Let's modernize our debate and go to iPhone vs. Blackberry. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-07 Thread Mark Roberts
eckinator wrote: LOL... [quote from memory] To all you iPhone owners, don't act like you invented it, you only bought the bloody thing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k3zvI2tyPMeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fadamthinks%2Ecom%2Fiphone%2Ffeature=player_embedded#t=76 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/9/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: eckinator wrote: LOL... [quote from memory] To all you iPhone owners, don't act like you invented it, you only bought the bloody thing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k3zvI2tyPMeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fadamthinks%

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-06 Thread AlunFoto
2009/9/6 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: The irony there being the one thing MS gets consistently right is Office, particularly Excel. Office is excellent from a user perspective. It's a nightmare for most other things. I could tell you many a horror story from where I work. :-( Microsoft's OS'es

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-06 Thread David Mann
On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Cotty wrote: http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/ Borg making cameras! I want the 6x17 one. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:59 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, for the good old days of Windows 3.x where a simple one line change in an INI file would turn your PC into a dedicated machine for playing Solitaire. I still have mine downstairs.:-) Just in case. Dave

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread Cotty
On 4/9/09, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: Good review. OT: He mentions the RED camera: http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/ Borg making cameras! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread Eckehard Wegner
In my job I don't recommend productive use of M$ products until after SP1 or even SP2. I never buy a car that's been in production for less than a year. Early adoptors usually enjoy the luxury of an extra risk. I can't wait for the K-7 to mature... ]=) Cheers Ecke 2009/9/4 Desjardins, Steve

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread William Robb
2009/9/4 Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu: Yep. They need to be careful. Lots of folks don't want to do extensive testing right off the back to see if they have a lemon or not. - Original Message - From: Eckehard Wegner Subject: Re: Interesting K7 review In my job I don't

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 10:46:32PM +0200, Eckehard Wegner wrote: In my job I don't recommend productive use of M$ products until after SP1 or even SP2. You made a minor grammatical error. Here let me help you fix it: In my job I don't recommend productive use of M$ products. -- The first

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread Eckehard Wegner
For anything other than Windoze you are actually quite right. My customers are open to most things but they will not switch OS. Yet at the same time I try to achieve as many things as possible with Windows built-in options rather than to add programs. k.i.s.s. and Pareto really. And remember:

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Eckehard Wegnereckina...@gmail.com wrote: For anything other than Windoze you are actually quite right. My customers are open to most things but they will not switch OS. Yet at the same time I try to achieve as many things as possible with Windows built-in

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Ah, for the good old days of Windows 3.x where a simple one line change in an INI file would turn your PC into a dedicated machine for playing Solitaire. Eckehard Wegner wrote: For anything other than Windoze you are actually quite right. My customers are open to most things but they will not

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread Eckehard Wegner
Couldn't agree with you more but 95% of the users I deal with use less than 5% of the features of Excel. In fact they hardly do anything Works couldn't do. Office is for key and power users. All other can get OpenOffice and do their stuff just fne. Cheers Ecke 2009/9/6 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca:

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-05 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 06:57:50PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: The irony there being the one thing MS gets consistently right is Office, particularly Excel. Oh, they get a lot more than Office right. Visual Studio is hands down the best interactive development environment out there, and has been

Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark, Thanks, that was interesting. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for that link Mark. Not a bad review from some one who thought Pentax did not exist any more. I really like the paragraph right under the Image Quality heading. Hit the nail on the head with that one. Maybe i'll cc that over to The Forum and see what trouble i can get into. Bill can't

RE: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Desjardins, Steve
This is a really good review. No fanboy stuff either way. He just tried the camera in a real setting and liked what he found. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 4, 2009, at 10:07, Desjardins, Steve wrote: This is a really good review. No fanboy stuff either way. He just tried the camera in a real setting and liked what he found. ..until his followup comment, where he said he was trying REALLY HARD to still like it. Or something to that

RE: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Desjardins, Steve
To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interesting K7 review http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html Interesting indeed. Others are reporting that the K-7 overexposes. Be sure to read the follow-on comments. Pentax's quality-control problems are becoming too widely known. Joe -- PDML

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html Interesting indeed. Others are reporting that the K-7 overexposes. Be sure to read the follow-on comments. Pentax's quality-control problems are becoming too widely known. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:41 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interesting K7 review http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html Interesting indeed. Others are reporting

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Paul Stenquist wrote: My K7 meter is very accurate and consistent. For neutral subjects I get good results at +1/3 stop. My experience suggests that too. I always keep my K20D set +0.7 as standard (that's good for shooting RAW keeping histogram 'to the right'). That native -0.7 EV to

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Brendan MacRae
: Interesting K7 review http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0909/cb0909-1.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions

RED Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 06:06:04PM -0700, Brendan MacRae scripsit: OT: He mentions the RED camera: http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/ Scroll down to the gallery of 8 images and take a look at the configuration in the top row, far right. Makes for an interesting looking camera, can't really

Re: Interesting K7 review

2009-09-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Interesting review. I did notice that he seems to be complaining about how much detail the sensor can capture, when he complains about how critical focus has to be because of the sensor's resolution. The fix for this is simple just down res the captured image. It will /look/ sharper. Mark