Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-07 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 12:32:32PM -0500, CollinB wrote: > on 2014-01-06 14:17 Bruce Walker wrote > > Your spam predates my net access too. I was on email (UNIX v6 PWB) in > > '79, then my company (AES Data) got limited net access in 1982 or so, > > via UUCP. For some years I was aesat!bmw (anyone

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-07 Thread CollinB
on 2014-01-06 14:17 Bruce Walker wrote > Your spam predates my net access too. I was on email (UNIX v6 PWB) in > '79, then my company (AES Data) got limited net access in 1982 or so, > via UUCP. For some years I was aesat!bmw (anyone else here remember > bang-paths?). I always prided myself as bei

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Miserere wrote: > steve harley wrote: >>on 2014-01-06 14:17 Bruce Walker wrote >>> Your spam predates my net access too. I was on email (UNIX v6 PWB) in >>> '79, then my company (AES Data) got limited net access in 1982 or so, >>> via UUCP. For some years I was ae

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-06 Thread Miserere
steve harley wrote: >on 2014-01-06 14:17 Bruce Walker wrote >> Your spam predates my net access too. I was on email (UNIX v6 PWB) in >> '79, then my company (AES Data) got limited net access in 1982 or so, >> via UUCP. For some years I was aesat!bmw (anyone else here remember >> bang-paths?). > >i

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-06 Thread steve harley
on 2014-01-06 14:17 Bruce Walker wrote Your spam predates my net access too. I was on email (UNIX v6 PWB) in '79, then my company (AES Data) got limited net access in 1982 or so, via UUCP. For some years I was aesat!bmw (anyone else here remember bang-paths?). i do, but i can't recall my addres

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:17:44PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:29 PM, steve harley wrote: > > on 2014-01-04 13:52 Bruce Walker wrote > > > > > > > > Yeah, I do remember reading that now. I was thin

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-06 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:29 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2014-01-04 13:52 Bruce Walker wrote > >> In 1984 when the 645 was released the Internet was a very >> small network and didn't yet include AOL. Not even the first spam had >> been mailed by then. > > > just a little reality check - this slig

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-06 Thread steve harley
on 2014-01-04 13:52 Bruce Walker wrote In 1984 when the 645 was released the Internet was a very small network and didn't yet include AOL. Not even the first spam had been mailed by then. just a little reality check - this slightly predates my introduction to the 'net: "Earliest documented sp

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
And you may also be able to get it processed! -Original Message- >From: Aahz Maruch >Subject: Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth' > >On Sun, Jan 05, 2014, P.J. Alling wrote: >> >> The film era's not over yet. I still have

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-05 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014, P.J. Alling wrote: > > The film era's not over yet. I still have film loaded in several > camera bodies. Someday I'll even shoot some. That reminds me of this line: "I like cooking with wine. Some of it goes into the food." -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread P.J. Alling
On 1/4/2014 4:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you "NEED" permits you to t

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >>I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >>"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. > > What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital. > Back in the days of film I

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth' From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell On 4/1/14, Boris Liber

RE: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell > > On 4/1/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Speaking of litmus, we have now a proper photography store > in Tel Aviv. > > Ah but is it kosher?? > of course not - photo shops are subject to canon law

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> Paul via phone >> >>> On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> >>> Bruce Walker wrote: >>> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: > John wrote: >

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/14, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >Surely you can buy whatever vehicle you feel you want to, but I >reserve the right to think you're daft if you decide that a road >grader is appropriate transportation for daily commuting. That's just ridiculous!! You'd never need anything mo

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >Speaking of litmus, we have now a proper photography store in Tel Aviv. Ah but is it kosher?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- P

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: > some of you guys continue to yearn for a FF Pentax) Because I can ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List P

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >Paul via phone > >> On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> Bruce Walker wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: > I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you > "NEED" pe

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts >wrote: >> Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>>On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >>>wrote: John wrote: >I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone > On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bruce Walker wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you "NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm all

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Bruce Walker wrote: > >>On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >>wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you "NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. >>> >>> Wha

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts >wrote: >> John wrote: >> >>>I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >>>"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. >> >> What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >>I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >>"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. > > What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital. > Back in the days of film I

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote: >I think some are still under the mistaken impression that what you >"NEED" permits you to tell me what I'm allowed to *want*. What's interesting to me is that this nontroversy is new to digital. Back in the days of film I don't recall anyone who expressed interest in buying a Pentax

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Interesting read indeed, Cotty. And a litmus test too... Speaking of litmus, we have now a proper photography store in Tel Aviv. Paid it a visit few days ago and got to handle Canon 6D with 24-70/2.8L... The camera is fab, the lens is out of my desire zone... Boris On 1/4/2014 12:00 AM, Stev

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Miserere
John wrote: >On 1/4/2014 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: >> Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Interesting read. >> >> Thanks Cotty. >> >> Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same >> point for years (though some

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Miserere
John wrote: >On 1/4/2014 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: >> Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Interesting read. >> >> Thanks Cotty. >> >> Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same >> point for years (though some

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread John
On 1/4/2014 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Interesting read. Thanks Cotty. Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same point for years (though some of you guys continue to yearn for a F

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Rick Womer
Cotty's just looking for reassurance that his hat might stay on his head rather than landing on his plate. On Jan 4, 2014, at 3:02 AM, Miserere wrote: > Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> >> Interesting read. > > Thanks Cotty. > > M

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-04 Thread Miserere
Steve Cottrell wrote: > > >Interesting read. Thanks Cotty. Many of us on this list have been making and blogging this very same point for years (though some of you guys continue to yearn for a FF Pentax). As for the comment on 1

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-03 Thread Bruce Walker
You do realize that he couldn't publish an article without including a few images for illustration purposes, right? Reichmann doesn't expect you to be convinced by comparing the images to each other. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I don't have to read the article. I can tell

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-03 Thread Bruce Walker
"APS-C camera users, at least those whose cameras are of DSLR design, don't get much of a break. The cameras aren't that much smaller and lighter than Full Frame, and most people use full frame capable lenses, because to buy APS-C specific lenses locks you out of an eventual full-frame upgrade, an

Re: Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-03 Thread Darren Addy
I don't have to read the article. I can tell just by looking at those 597 pixel wide images at web resolution (and the captions) that all of today's sensor sizes all produce the same exact high quality imagery. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >

Interesting article on LL 'The Full-Frame Myth'

2014-01-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
Interesting read. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/li