Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-27 Thread John
On 5/26/2015 6:39 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I am surprised that everybody is mad about the DOF part, but nobody is surprised by this nonsense: Once you realize it's nonsense, it's ALL nonsense. None of it is any more surprisingly nonsensical than the rest of it. -- Science - Questions we may

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-27 Thread steve harley
On Tue, May 26, 2015, at 04:34, james wrote: While reading the photography part on flipboard (Smart phone app) A guy named Dzvonko Petrovski is talking about crop v full frame sensors. i use Flipboard a lot (have my own magazines) and have given up reading the default Photography magazine—few

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread james
OOPS better link http://www.lightstalking.com/cameras-sensor-size/ James On 26/05/2015 8:34 PM, james wrote: While reading the photography part on flipboard (Smart phone app) A guy named Dzvonko Petrovski is talking about crop v full frame sensors. Edited quote: A 50mm F2 lens on full frame

Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread james
While reading the photography part on flipboard (Smart phone app) A guy named Dzvonko Petrovski is talking about crop v full frame sensors. Edited quote: A 50mm F2 lens on full frame is as expected a 50mm F2. On a 1.5 crop sensor, it is a 75mm F3. Link here:

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Bill
On 26/05/2015 4:34 AM, james wrote: While reading the photography part on flipboard (Smart phone app) A guy named Dzvonko Petrovski is talking about crop v full frame sensors. Edited quote: A 50mm F2 lens on full frame is as expected a 50mm F2. On a 1.5 crop sensor, it is a 75mm F3. Link here:

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread J C OConnell
you dont gain depth of field as the sensor gets smaller, you only gain depth of field when you change the lens to a shorter focal length to give the equiv angle of view on the smaller sensor. JCO On 5/26/2015 8:12 AM, Bill wrote: On 26/05/2015 4:34 AM, james wrote: While reading the

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread P.J. Alling
No he is wrong, and yes, he is an idiot, (not ad hominem as his article pretty much proves the point). Reading his article will actually, much as reading much of the tripe Kennyboy posts, make the average reader dumber. He's not afraid to share his knowledge, nor smart enough to disguise

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread CollinB
I can't believe what I am reading. 50mm is always 50mm. 50/2 is always 50/2 no matter the format. All that changes is the perception resulting from a crop. Shoot with a full frame and cut off the outer third of your print. That's the same as shooting with your crop sensor. Only perceived dof

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread P.J. Alling
Actually you gain, or lose, depth of field, based entirely on the size of the aperture, if you look at the math, that fact is pretty apparent. Smaller aperture equals smaller CoC implies greater DoF. Light transmission, to simplify things, depends on the f stop which is as we all know, the

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 26.05.15 um 12:34 schrieb james: A 50mm F2 lens on full frame is as expected a 50mm F2. On a 1.5 crop sensor, it is a 75mm F3. I'd be careful with such things. The production of BS in such quantities might be treated as an industrial activity with all legal and fiscal consequences.

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread John Sessoms
On 5/26/2015 8:12 AM, Bill wrote: On 26/05/2015 4:34 AM, james wrote: While reading the photography part on flipboard (Smart phone app) A guy named Dzvonko Petrovski is talking about crop v full frame sensors. Edited quote: A 50mm F2 lens on full frame is as expected a 50mm F2. On a 1.5 crop

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread P.J. Alling
I wasn't mad about that, what do you say about someone who obviously believes that Hitler is still alive and living in Argentina., Well he never said that in so many words, but the conspiracy theory required to make ISO 100 be different for every sensor size, also implies a belief in lots of

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Bill
Really folks, this crap is best left to DPReview's open talk forum. In other news, the Cormorants Lake Lodge near The Pas Manitoba is open for the season. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Bob W-PDML
I suspect this is just bad, confused writing rather than an attempt to defy the laws of optics. I think a generous interpretation would be that he was trying to say something along the following lines: 1. For a given EV, an aperture setting of f/2 and an ISO of 100 will lead to the same

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Bill
On 26/05/2015 6:37 AM, J C OConnell wrote: you dont gain depth of field as the sensor gets smaller, you only gain depth of field when you change the lens to a shorter focal length to give the equiv angle of view on the smaller sensor. This does, of course, presume that one wants to take the

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR
I am surprised that everybody is mad about the DOF part, but nobody is surprised by this nonsense: Here is a fun fact: the lens set to f/2 on every sensor will result in the same shutter speed for the same exposure. This is because the sensors have different signal multipliers, meaning that

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Larry Colen
I just sent an email to the site: i...@lightstalking.com saying as much. CollinB wrote: I can't believe what I am reading. 50mm is always 50mm. 50/2 is always 50/2 no matter the format. All that changes is the perception resulting from a crop. Shoot with a full frame and cut off the outer

Re: Is this guy right?????

2015-05-26 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 26 May 2015, at 14:34, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: Am 26.05.15 um 12:34 schrieb james: A 50mm F2 lens on full frame is as expected a 50mm F2. On a 1.5 crop sensor, it is a 75mm F3. I'd be careful with such things. The production of BS in such quantities might be