Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:52:48 -0500, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L Despite his one-liners here, Cotty is quite a decent person though those who have not actually met him may not believe that (g). ...and some of us who have met him may not believe it, either...

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty takes a hacksaw to the K mount and forceably grafts the alien eos mount to them... Peter would make an excellent headline-writer for a UK tabloid newspaper or The National Enquirer. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Despite his one-liners here, Cotty is quite a decent person though those who have not actually met him may not believe that (g). ...and some of us who have met him may not believe it, either... LOL. Hey, you talkin about me, you lookin

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/12/04, Frantisek, discombobulated, unleashed: Bwah! Instead of modifying lenses, you should have drilled enough space in your 1DmkII body! the thought did cross my mind. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-08 Thread Bob W
Hi, Cotty takes a hacksaw to the K mount and forceably grafts the alien eos mount to them... Peter would make an excellent headline-writer for a UK tabloid newspaper or The National Enquirer. I read the other day that the Washington Post headline over their piece about the Blunkett affair was

OT: Blunkett (was: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.)

2004-12-08 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] I read the other day that the Washington Post headline over their piece about the Blunkett affair was London britches falling down. LOL. Poor Blunkett. Veered off and straight into the ticket (ok... poor pun. apologies for not

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well I was once the photo editor on a very very bad little rag. I had to write quite a few photo captions, (unfortunately the editor in chief often overruled me, who knows they might still be in business...). Cotty wrote: On 7/12/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
). Everything I shoot is 135mm or less. can I get some thoughts on some of the great M42 lenses that I should consider buying. Once again, sorry. Gateway (of that is indeed your name, or can I call you Col. Bat Guano??) You Do Not Want To Look Here: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html

Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, William Robb wrote: That looks really very nice. I don't know if it's true or not, I had heard that Mamiya wanted to emulate the smooth look of their RB lenses in their 35mm glass. Looking at the rendition that lens is giving, I can well believe it is so. Even I (who

Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7 FYI, I added a couple of BW images at the bottom of the page. I wouldn't mind seeing how it does as a portrait lens. I bet it rocks. William Robb

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 7, 2004, at 1:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem. You're not the only one on this list who uses Pentax lenses on a Canon body. Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount lenses work

Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I'd love a shootout against the A100/2.8 The rendering looks good. What have you been able to gather about the optical formula? Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more... :-) K mount lenses do not work

RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, December 07, 2004 9:11 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses. On 7/12/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount lenses work also? This is so

RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Gateway
: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:11 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses. On 7/12/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount lenses work

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: since the canon EOS bodies have such a large throat, I do not understand why a simple EOS(body) to PK(lens) adapter would not be possible including infinity focus do these adapters exist now or not? Well, I did see an auction pointed

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed: Hang on a second, I lost the sense in the thread. Can I get a K mount ot work on my Canon 20D? I don't know, but I can. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Jon Glass wrote: On Dec 7, 2004, at 1:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem. You're not the only one on this list who uses Pentax lenses on a Canon body. Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Only M42s reach infinity and they work great. I'm now using them on a 1DsM2 and really enjoy it. My EOS K mount creations reach infinity no problem at all. Hey Ryan, I get my mounts back from the fabricators this week - you're in luck. I

RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Did you have to remove rear levers of your PK lenses to enable infinty usage on the Canon EOS slrs as a previous post implied? JCO -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:13 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Did you have to remove rear levers of your PK lenses to enable infinty usage on the Canon EOS slrs as a previous post implied? Yes. Details: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/details.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Did you have to remove rear levers of your PK lenses to enable infinty usage on the Canon EOS slrs as a previous post implied? Not to enable infinity focus, rather to enable the lenses to be attached - there is physically no room for the

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Cotty wrote: On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Only M42s reach infinity and they work great. I'm now using them on a 1DsM2 and really enjoy it. My EOS K mount creations reach infinity no problem at all. This is with your mod to the coupler, or no? -R

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Graywolf
Let me clarify Cotty's position here. He has had custom K to EOS mounts made up from his design. They apparently work quite well. What do you have now Cott, 3-4 of them? He did post a link to a photo, but it may have gotten lost in the shuffle. Despite his one-liners here, Cotty is quite a

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: This is with your mod to the coupler, or no? You'll see. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Let me clarify Cotty's position here. He has had custom K to EOS mounts made up from his design. They apparently work quite well. What do you have now Cott, 3-4 of them? Yeah, they are not adapters, they are mounts. That is, once the mount is

RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Gateway
to read through it yet. Gareth -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:59 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses. On 7/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Let me clarify Cotty's position here. He has had

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
Canon AF-to-M42 brass adapter, drilled out to EOS spec for mounting on the lens, and a small round plate fabricated from scratch to maintain the register distance. Longer mounting screws are also needed. All details on that web page I gave you. HTH Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed: Can you share with us where you ge these things made and how much. The cost of each mount (modified Canon AF / M42 adapter + fabricated spacer ring) about 65 GBP plus cost of Canon AF / M42 adapter, about 20 USD. SRB have the jig and specs, just

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses. Well, I did see an auction pointed out to me with such an adapter, but the crucial thing is the aperture lever on the back of the lens - it must be removed as there is no space for it inside the camera body

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, I did see an auction pointed out to me with such an adapter, but the crucial thing is the aperture lever on the back of the lens - it must be removed as there is no space for it inside the camera body, despite such a deep, er

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
! Somehow, I haven't heard this before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more... :-) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:52:48 -0500, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L Despite his one-liners here, Cotty is quite a decent person though those who have not actually met him may not believe that (g). ...and some of us who have met him may not believe it, either... cheers, etc, frank vbg

Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-06 Thread Gateway
thoughts on some of the great M42 lenses that I should consider buying. Once again, sorry. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-06 Thread pnstenquist
No problem. You're not the only one on this list who uses Pentax lenses on a Canon body. Scurrilous behavior to be sure, but tolerated here vbg. In any case, you're going to want the Super Multi Coated Takumar 85/1.8. It's a magnificent M42 lens, one of the best ever built. (In general, you'll

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
You've pretty well covered all I'd have suggested with the exception of the 28/3.5, another little jewel ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/6/2004 4:31:31 PM Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses. No problem. You're not the only one

RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-06 Thread Don Sanderson
PROTECTED] Subject: Your best M42 mount lenses. My apologies for infiltrating the group. I don't shoot with a Pentax, I shoot with a Canon. There, I got it off my chest. Wait, it gets worse, it's a Canon digital. Now the bit where I try and score some brownie points. I love using manual focus

Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-06 Thread brooksdj
[Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ditto the SMC 105/2.8 and 120/2.8. I dont have the 120,but i have the 105 f 2.9 bought new in 1975. I think its my bestest lens in M42. The 28mm i purchased form Chris Brogden last year is also quite nice

My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FWIW, After many years of hearing about but never actually seeing ( not even pix of it) , I finally scored a Mamiya Sekor SX 85mm F1.7 Lens in M42 mount. I just created a little page with some pix of the lens, and a few test samples taken with it. Check it out: http://www.jcoconnell.com/temp

Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7 After many years of hearing about but never actually seeing ( not even pix of it) , I finally scored a Mamiya Sekor SX 85mm F1.7 Lens in M42 mount. I just created a little page

Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-06 Thread pnstenquist
Sekor SX 85mm F1.7 Lens in M42 mount. I just created a little page with some pix of the lens, and a few test samples taken with it. Check it out: http://www.jcoconnell.com/temp/85mmf17.htm Comments welcome, JCO

RE: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FYI, I added a couple of BW images at the bottom of the page. JCO FWIW, After many years of hearing about but never actually seeing ( not even pix of it) , I finally scored a Mamiya Sekor SX 85mm F1.7 Lens in M42 mount. I just created a little page with some pix of the lens

FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
usual 2 month money-back guarantee for faults not listed (3 for the 85). Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind

Re: FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! KK Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint KK KK In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but KK the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind. Kostas, I wonder what is your price tag for this lens

Re: FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Hi Boris, On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Boris Liberman wrote: KK Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint KK KK In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but KK the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind

Re[2]: FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! KK Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint KK KK In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but KK the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind. Kostas, I wonder what is your price tag

FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-A 70-210/4, SMC-M 35/2, SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-19 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
guarantee for faults not listed. Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind. SMC Pentax-A 70-210/4 EXC

OT - M42 Fujica sought

2004-11-18 Thread Cotty
I know I said I would try and keep OT noise down, but at least this is about M42 gear... Years ago when I was but a lad, the first camera I owned was a Practika (MTL-3 i think) but after that I had Fujica ST605n - and now I'm going to have one as a paperweight. Might even put film through it. I

Re: OT - M42 Fujica sought

2004-11-18 Thread John Coyle
: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: OT - M42 Fujica sought I know I said I would try and keep OT noise down, but at least this is about M42 gear... Years ago when I was but a lad, the first camera I owned was a Practika (MTL-3 i think) but after that I had Fujica ST605n - and now I'm going

Re: OT - M42 Fujica sought

2004-11-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
I've never seen one in black. I have seen the Fujica ST901 in black but not the ST605. Cotty wrote: I know I said I would try and keep OT noise down, but at least this is about M42 gear... Years ago when I was but a lad, the first camera I owned was a Practika (MTL-3 i think) but after that I

Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-13 Thread Margus Männik
Hi, thank you all for your replies ! Now, I'm a bit smarter again :))) BR, Margus Margus Männik wrote: Hi there, do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less...) produced M42 bodies would be described? BR, Margus

Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-10 Thread brooksdj
http://www.aohc.it/ http://212.187.14.19/spotmatic/index2.html Dave Hi there, do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less...) produced M42 bodies would be described

M42 Pentax history

2004-11-09 Thread Margus Männik
Hi there, do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less...) produced M42 bodies would be described? BR, Margus Tallinn, Estonia

Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-09 Thread Fred Widall
Margus, Dario's incredible site should tell you everything you might wish to know. http://www.aohc.it/ Other good sites are http://www.pentaximaging.com/world_of_pentax/history_of_innovations/index.jsp http://www.concentric.net/%7Esherfy/special1.html

Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Try this. There are a couple more but I don't have them bookmarked on this system. http://www.shmgo-zwolle.nl/spotmatic/index2.html Margus Männik wrote: Hi there, do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-28 Thread Herb Chong
i wouldn't hold your breath. the limit is yield and that isn't going to change very quickly. Herb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: M42 ultra-wide Eventually, I should think

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-28 Thread Raimo K
, October 28, 2004 3:21 AM Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide snip Stopping the lens down (to F22, only option with no aperture ring...) slightly reduces the image circle. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Oct 2004 at 18:38, Raimo K wrote: That´s just the opposite of all lenses I know of. Usually coverage improves by stopping down. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho In the case of the DA14/2.8 I assume the vignette is caused by the

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Jost
-Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide The Nikon 14 is actually a Tamron 14 clone, with ED element. At least that's what Tamron HK said. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
A week or so ago one sold for about $700 (K version). J. C. O'Connell wrote: There is a 15mm SMCT on ebay now but the bids over $1100. JCO -Original Message- From: Eugene Homme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: M42 ultra

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Herb Chong
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:02 AM Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide One doesn't know what a 14/2.8 non-DA Pentax would look like. The 12-24 APS-format Nikkor isn't small, light, or cheap as most people assumed an APS-format

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread Frantisek
Do you think that it is a good idea to put the 3.5/15 on a DSLR? As others has reported here, its performance on a DSLR is not staggering, apparently. Is it just nostalghia for M42 glass? You could get a better wideangle for a cheaper price probably. IMO g Good light! fra

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/10/04, Alan Chan, discombobulated, unleashed: Maybe someone with better memory can have the final word. A15/3.5 was my dream lens back in early 90's and I saw it advertised in PopPhoto Magazine at US$6xx. I don't have any old magazines to double check now of course. When I bought one

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/10/04, Frantisek, discombobulated, unleashed: Do you think that it is a good idea to put the 3.5/15 on a DSLR? Yes. As others has reported here, its performance on a DSLR is not staggering, apparently. Is it just nostalghia for M42 glass? I wanted a K15 3.5 to use on a DSLR for several

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/10/04, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: When I bought one (15 3.5) brand new back in 1984, it cost me 350 GBP. That was a *lot* of money back then. Of course that was a K15 3.5 Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread Frantisek
C 1. SMC glass will better resist flaring - my largest problem at this C focal length. C 2. SMC glass will better resist flaring - my largest problem at this C focal length. C 3. SMC glass will better resist flaring - my largest problem at this C focal length. I see your point ;-) Flaring with

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/10/04, Frantisek, discombobulated, unleashed: I see your point ;-) Flaring with the Sigma (which I use as well) can be sometimes quite bad. Few solutions - use the removable lens-cap (the barrel thingy) on it. If it vignettes in the corners, file them away a bit. Works well (but still will

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Oct 2004 at 23:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming it's useful wide open, which I've heard that it might not be for some people's standards--if the 14 is better wide open then it's more like a two stop difference. I haven't had the money to fiddle with anybody's 15mm lens to know

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide Secondly, isnt a 15mm F3.5 A lens like $2000 list? Well, US$6xx not that many years ago. :-) It is expensive now probably because they are made on order. I hate giving out specific prices, but I paid CAN$1700.00 for my

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide It is going to be more than you suggest, see my last post. You werent comparing KA lenses of same focal length and speed in your comparison. the Nikon has a different flange distance, not sure which way, and a hate

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide the contention was APS lenses have a lot of advantages over FF lenses on APS bodies. FF ability is not an advantage on a APS body. FF ability to switch between the two is an advantage. William Robb

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide Wrong comparison. The 15/3.5 Pentax dates optically to 1974. It's what's out there on the shelves, so it is about the only

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wides Do you think that it is a good idea to put the 3.5/15 on a DSLR? As others has reported here, its performance on a DSLR is not staggering, apparently. Is it just nostalghia for M42 glass? You could get a better wideangle

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert The following lack lustre images were shot quickly hand held using my *ist D with multi-segment metering and focus at infinity stop, they are about 1.5MB each and will only be up for a day or two: Useless pictures. To be valid, there has to be a

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
of the post JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide the contention was APS lenses have

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, weight, cost, etc. You don't need on the shelf items to know that simple fact of optical life. JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide - Original Message

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread edwin
that it is a good idea to put the 3.5/15 on a DSLR? As others has reported here, its performance on a DSLR is not staggering, apparently. Is it just nostalghia for M42 glass? You could get a better wideangle for a cheaper price probably. IMO g As I said, I've heard rumblings that its performance

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide FF lens is not an advantage on a APS camera. APS lenses have some very good advantages over FF lenses on APS camera. That was the point of the post. If a lens is FF it doesn't provide any of the APS lens advantages

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide Fart theories? Are you that ignorant of basic lens design? For the same level of quality and same speed and focal length, a FF lens which has an image circle diameter 150% of an APS lens will always require a higher

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
And who says they don't? i.e. Isnt the DA 14mm F2.8 lens smaller and lighter ( and cheaper ) than any FF 14mm F2.8 lens on the market? JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Tom C
no existing lenses, I still would not buy the APS matched lenses. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:24:07 -0600 - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, 2004 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide FF lens is not an advantage on a APS camera. APS lenses have some very good advantages over FF lenses on APS camera. That was the point of the post

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide I wasn't the original poster but I still hold to what I said. If a FF body comes out that I can use my lenses on (assuming I could afford

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
for TC the first time and had no existing lenses, I still would not buy the APS TC matched lenses. TC Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:24:07 -0600 - Original Message

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2004-10-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Oct 2004 at 9:20, William Robb wrote: Useless pictures. To be valid, there has to be a swimming pool in the foreground. Yes, my mistake. I guess that's why all the listers who have never owned/used one are still discrediting its performance. From what I've seen of test pics from the

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
have aperture cams (assuming they have rings)??? Curious... JCO -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide On 27 Oct 2004 at 9:20, William Robb wrote: Useless pictures

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2004-10-27 Thread Tom C
You're making me cry. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:39:50 -0400 What about the 14mm DA 2.8 also being wider, faster, and costs a lot less? QUESTION: Do the APS Pentax DA

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Oct 2004 at 18:39, J. C. O'Connell wrote: What about the 14mm DA 2.8 also being wider, faster, and costs a lot less? Well yes it does cost less and it's faster but I'm not yet sure if it's actually wider in practice, I've found FL designations to be wildly misleading in the past.

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Andre Langevin
Are the 15/3.5 SMC-Takumars actually availible now and then? Very hard to come by... I've seen a Sigma 18/3.2 listed in M42 mount, but I'm reluctant to commit money to a lens that may not have an A/M lever and probably has old Sigma quality as well. DJE The one I have does have an A/M lever

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide On 27 Oct 2004 at 18:39, J. C. O'Connell wrote: What about the 14mm DA 2.8 also being wider, faster, and costs a lot less? Well yes it does cost less and it's faster but I'm not yet sure

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread Peter Loveday
Thanks for the info on the DA lenses. Would be neat to try one on a film body to see how much margin they have over the APS boundaries... First (well second :) thing I did when I got mine was stick it on the LX. Through the viewfinder the image circle is clearly visible; its size varies with

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Does the image circle get any bigger (less black in corners ) as you stop it down using DOF preview? Curious again JCO -Original Message- From: Peter Loveday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide

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2004-10-27 Thread Peter Loveday
Does the image circle get any bigger (less black in corners ) as you stop it down using DOF preview? Curious again Sorry, I was actually incorrect in what I thought happened, I just did some more playing. So, at infinity focus it doesn't fill the view horizontally, by the time you get to

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide I wasn't the original poster but I still hold to what I said. Yours must just have been the first post I read on the subject. William Robb

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide And who says they don't? i.e. Isnt the DA 14mm F2.8 lens smaller and lighter ( and cheaper ) than any FF 14mm F2.8 lens on the market? Check the specs, cheaper for sure, lighter, somewhat, smaller, somewhat

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide What about the 14mm DA 2.8 also being wider, faster, and costs a lot less? How about if a person already has a 15mm lens, then the 14 seems a bit redundant? And it won't work on a full frame camera.. William

Re: M42 ultra-wides

2004-10-27 Thread Herb Chong
the 16-45 and the 12-24 are not a lot different in size. the length is roughly the same, but the 12-24 has a larger diameter. Herb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:50 PM Subject: Re: M42

M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread edwin
-- Tom C. said: IMO, the whole marketing of APS digital lenses is a shennanigan. Knowing what I know (which may not be alot), if I was buying into Pentax digital for the first time and had no existing lenses, I still would not buy the APS matched lenses. I'm not

Re: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-27 Thread edwin
Here is the difference between a Nikkor 14/2.8 full frame and the Pentax DA 14/2.8: Nikon street price: $1399.00 weight: 23.6 oz size: 3.8 X 3.4 Pentax Street price: $700.00 weight: 14.8 oz size: 3.3 X 2.7 As I've said, I bought a used Sigma 14/3.5 (for $500-ish) instead of the

RE: M42 ultra-wide

2004-10-26 Thread Eugene Homme
What other options have I got? Are the 15/3.5 SMC-Takumars actually availible now and then? From what I've seen I'd probably pay less than $1000 if I could find one. Nobody seems to make a 14mm in adaptall or http://www.kevincameras.com has several. His prices are at the high end of the

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