Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-05 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Sylwester Pietrzyk a écrit: on 04.02.03 11:19, Alin Flaider at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henry wrote: IHC> According to the patents, the new lens with K-AF3 IHC> mount can be mounted onto old cameras via an adaptor. I'll have to check this for myself. An adaptor implies a mechanical change in

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
Dear all, > If I recall, Pentax also had a patent for a new AF > system along with the KAF3 mount. > > I wonder how different this AF will be. Cross sensors? > More AF pts? Faster? We first have to wait and whether it comes at all. I remember from the patents >that it was a type of multi-

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: > The real > question is whether 645 will fight 'em or join 'em (them being > digital). I would argue that a less than full frame sensor for 645 > makes less sense than a full frame 35mm sensor due to weight and size > of the supporting lenses. I feel confident that they will. I'm t

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Rob, I stand corrected. :) Certainly one could argue that the two aspects of MF are cost and image quality. Since the 645 is a smaller format than the 67, it should be encroached upon sooner than 67. The cost to get to 67 quality will be higher than getting to 645. The real question is whether

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: > If I recall, Pentax also had a patent for a new AF > system along with the KAF3 mount. > > I wonder how different this AF will be. Cross sensors? > More AF pts? Faster? We first have to wait and whether it comes at all. I remember from the patents that it was a type of mult

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Feb 2003 at 11:28, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Ryan, > > But everyone is already saying that Canon 1DS is competing head to > head with 645 already. That should read "But everyone with vested interests is already saying that..." I do agree though 645 will be the first medium format to succumb to

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Peter Jansen
If I recall, Pentax also had a patent for a new AF system along with the KAF3 mount. I wonder how different this AF will be. Cross sensors? More AF pts? Faster? Peter --- Pål_Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob wrote: > > > > This would answer the constant criticism of Pentax > not

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: > This would answer the constant criticism of Pentax not having changeable > backs perhaps? Very unlikely as this will make the camera larger, not smaller. Besides, I suspect the interchangeable back crowd will go digital real soon, if not already. No, this is again the MF field ca

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: >I've looked over the 67II and can't see > any radical way to shrink the size. I'm sure little cuts here and > there would shrink it a bit - maybe using more materials like in the > MZ-S would reduce it's weight a bit more. It can anything from update of the current version to a 6X

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Ryan, But everyone is already saying that Canon 1DS is competing head to head with 645 already. Why bother? The next generation of chips will probably surpass it. On the film front, there still may be advantages (cost for sure) in using 67. In the end, maybe it will have a longer life than the

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Rob Brigham wrote: But you could put a 645 size sensor on an insert for a 67 based system... But there's already AF and full automation for the 645Nii, so it makes more sense to stick with that. 645 would still be a crop. R

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
le. RB> Besides the criticism of not having changeable backs came up WELL before RB> the age of digital. Perhaps they are finally adressing it. >> -Original Message- >> From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: 03 February 2003 17:35 >> To: [EMAIL PR

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:15 PM >> To: Pål Jensen >> Subject: Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount? >> >> >> As with the KMount for 35mm, preservation of current lens usage is >> important to me in a new 67. I woul

RE: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Rob Brigham
having changeable backs came up WELL before the age of digital. Perhaps they are finally adressing it. > -Original Message- > From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 February 2003 17:35 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: New 67 and new generation of K-m

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
A digital option for 67 is a joke. You're not going to get anywhere near a full frame unless it's megabucks. They need to start with 35mm, then do 645- which makes a lot more sense. Rob Brigham wrote: This would answer the constant criticism of Pentax not having changeable backs perhaps? Man

RE: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread tom
Maybe it's a rangefinder. HAR! tv > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:15 PM > To: Pål Jensen > Subject: Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount? > > > As with the KMount for 35mm, prese

RE: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Rob Brigham
New 67 and new generation of K-mount? > > > Bruce wrote: > > > Now a new 67 would excite me even more than a DSLR. Any > more to the > > rumor? > > Nope. That's all I have for now. However, you are free to > speculate. Since it is supposedly smaller,

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
As with the KMount for 35mm, preservation of current lens usage is important to me in a new 67. I would dearly love to see a 75mm leaf shutter lens. The 90 is liveable, but not quite wide enough and is not in production anymore. I've looked over the 67II and can't see any radical way to shrink t

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: > Now a new 67 would excite me even more than a DSLR. Any more to the > rumor? Nope. That's all I have for now. However, you are free to speculate. Since it is supposedly smaller, I suspect a total redesign. Anyway, the source is reliable so this seems to be real. Those who suspec

Re: New 67 and new generation of K-mount?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pål, Now a new 67 would excite me even more than a DSLR. Any more to the rumor? Bruce Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:41:24 AM, you wrote: PJ> Seems I was wrong. I though the 67 was doomed. Apparently Pentax might show a new, more compact 67 (will it be a digital solution as well?). PJ> Rumo